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12 years ago
I've had a threesome, but it was with two friends. I wasn't dating either one of them and there weren't any jealousy issues because it was fun between friends, not a couple inviting a third person into the mix.
Would I do it again? In a heartbeat! Will I? Probably. But, I'm single and I'm not dating anyone so there aren't any jealousy issues involved.
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12 years ago
In my experience as a customer every dancer sets her own limits. Two different dancers in the same club will have completely different amounts of touching that they allow/encourage.
One dancer won't let anyone touch her breasts, but encourages customers to touch all they want between her legs because her nipples are sensitive and playing with them hurts.
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12 years ago
Receipts from strip clubs aren't itemized so unless you only spend $20 or $30 there's no way to prove that you weren't with a customer or employee and farmerart never spends that little.
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12 years ago
"Star" gives a great back rub.
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12 years ago
The IRS accepts strip club receipts as valid entertainment expenses and you can deduct them from your taxes. But, most companies frown on visiting strip clubs while you're traveling or entertaining customers and turning in the expenses for reimbursement.
Being self employed has it's advantages. If you were in this country you could write those expenses off legally and no one would care.
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12 years ago
Since I drink lightly at clubs, I don't care. I'm fine with the BYOB clubs and I'm fine with noes with full bars. When you'e drinking 2 drinks a night at the most they're the same.
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12 years ago
She loves you in spite of your SC fetish. Give them up and she'll love you more.
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12 years ago
In Pennsylvania a liquor license will run you well over $100k, and there are quite a few strip clubs which are juice bars or which give away alcohol for free. The more the customers drink the more they spend on dances, the club wants the customers drunk.
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12 years ago
They picked the wrong victims this time. I'm positive that they've gotten away with that crap dozens of times.
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12 years ago
There is a profitable club close to where I live that might be 3000 square feet total at the most and it's probably close to 2000 square feet. The club itself is less than 1000 square feet, there are a small number of private rooms that are upstairs above the club.
If you want to open a club that doesn't serve alcohol you can do it for less than $100,000 in Pennsylvania. Strip clubs are cash cows even without selling alcohol. Hire an attorney to find a town where there aren't any rules about needing a business license or approval from the town to open a business. Find a vacant building in the town that is in good physical shape, lease it, and hire a crew to clean it out. An empty storefront in a strip mall is good enough.
Do something that looks decent to cover up any windows so that no one can see in. Painting the name of the club and a couple of girls in bikinis on the inside of the windows and then paint over that with black paint and you'll have something that looks good and that can't be seen through. Then put walls in front of the windows so that no one can break them and see in.
The expensive part will be hiring a carpenter to build the stage. Don't skimp on safety or on a smooth surface for the customers to rest their arms. You don't want any lawsuits.
A good enough sound system will cost less than $2,000. You only need 4 speakers, one in each corner, and it only has to be loud enough that customers can't eavesdrop on other customers negotiating with the dancers. You will need to install dim lighting with a few "spotlights" focused on the stage to light the dancers when they're on the stage. Flood lights with a dimmer will work just fine.
Chairs for the customers to sit in and tables are inexpensive. You're not furnishing a 5 star restaurant and the lighting is dim so no one will notice that they're cheap. The same with the floor, concrete will work except in the lap dance area.
Security cameras aren't that expensive. You'll probably need a dozen of them and a computer to monitor them. $10,000 will let you cover the entire club.
Buy cubical walls for the lap dance room and the "private rooms". Make the "rooms" big enough for love seats and put the love seats where you can't see them from the door without poking your head in. Buy love seats for the lap dance area too and put them all in one "room" made of cubical walls with a bouncer to monitor things.
You'll need a standing desk at the front and in the lap dance area with cash boxes, an ATM, and have the carpenter build a bar and give away bottom shelf alcohol. A $20 cover will easily pay for the amount of alcohol most guys will drink. Buy the love seats and tables for the private rooms and lap dance room from a furniture store that's going out of business. Who cares what color they are, it's going to be too dark to see anyway.
There you go, less than $100,000 up front for a dive strip club that will bring in an easy $15k a month in profits in the slow season. And don't computerize anything. Cash only with cameras watching the cash boxes so that nothing can be proven and the IRS won't have any documentation other than the paper sheet that you fill out by hand every night on how much money came in.
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12 years ago
I don't mind a little sweat during "a dance".
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12 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
I'm with the majority. I would have made the OTC experience last a lot longer to get my money's worth, probably by giving her lot's of coffee to wake her up.
People who don't trust banks keep their money stashed at home. I know a couple of strippers who don't have bank accounts and one of them had a few hundred dollars stolen from her recently. Only in her case, it was everything that she had.
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12 years ago
Being the owner is about as close to perfect as you can get. Every owner/manager who I know about sleeps with some of the strippers regularly and the owners rake in cash left and right.
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12 years ago
Full bar, full food menu, full nudity, no entertainment other than the girls. Lap dance room that has walls around the couches for an illusion of privacy, doors on the VIP rooms that don't lock (for my protection as the owner, I don't want the dancers being raped) with discreet security cameras, and good security.
Official policy of low mileage and no extras and fire any dancers who get caught breaking that policy....except in the expensive VIP rooms.
We're talking about earning money and not going to jail. Pretending to run a clean strip club and giving lip service to obeying the law will keep the cops away.
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12 years ago
If those guys had only gotten massages, they wouldn't be testifying. They would have told the cops to get lost because they hadn't done anything. Instead they agreed to testify in exchange for immunity.....
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12 years ago
Keep in mind, the strippers at strip clubs are all there voluntarily. They can choose to not work and they can choose what they do and do not do. The women at those massage parlors are little more than slaves. They can't even leave without an escort to make sure they come back and they don't try to escape.
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12 years ago
I'd say do it. But, be cautious just in case you're wrong about her. The worst that can happen is you stop seeing her.
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12 years ago
I've been told by a stripper that a couple of the strippers working in her club are working their way through collage. Out of the 50 or 60 "a couple" of them were.
So, yes some strippers are working their way through college but they're rare.
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12 years ago
Most strippers who stick with it for very long have substance abuse problems. Not all of them, but the majority of them. The better looking strippers tend to not do extras, they earn enough money on their own without doing extras to make it, it's the ones who aren't as pretty who need to do the extras to pay their rent.
A friend of mine who is a stripper has told me that stripping has messed up her sex life. She enjoys sex, but her job is to do foreplay all day long so she doesn't like foreplay. To her foreplay is work. Be prepared, sex with a stripper who you are dating will be different than you expect. It might be better, it might be worse, but it won't be what you expect.
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12 years ago
The thing is a lot of the women working at AMP's are being forced to work there. At strip clubs the girls are all working there voluntarily, a lot of women at AMP's are not so I won't go there.
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12 years ago
If he's good looking, the bouncer is probably telling the truth. If he isn't, then he's probably lying.
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12 years ago
I've seen a raffle like that once. The tickets were $3 each, the club only sold 10 tickets, and the lap dance was $20. I'm pretty sure that the dancer got her normal payment for a lap dance.
I also saw a dancer turn down a $20 dance this weekend. She told the customer that the $60 room was better and that she didn't like doing $20 lap dances. It happens.
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12 years ago
It could be touchy. If you go to her place you never know who could be waiting for you there. If you have her come to your place a stripper knows where you live. If you get a hotel room you're looking at spending extra money on top of what you're paying her.
I've had several strippers come over to my house and I'm spending next weekend at a stripper's place, but that doesn't mean I suggest following my example. I don't have any children, I'm not married, and I have a security system with cameras covering all of the doors into my house. The stripper who I'm spending next weekend with has been at my house several times and I've been to her place several dozen times. It looks like I'm being reckless but I'm actually being very careful and protecting myself. Make sure that you do the same, protect yourself.
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12 years ago
One of my current favorites told me last night, "I took Friday off because I earned enough on Wednesday."
She works enough to meet her needs and then stops working for the week. I wish I had that much free time!
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12 years ago
Is she clean? And is her customer who she'll be seeing also clean?