Raffle, dancer rejects my $25 dollar lap-dance request and $2 "tip-out" asked fo
GoVikings
First of all, I had a dancer reject my lap-dancer offer. She claimed she "doesn't do $25 lap-dances". This has never happened to me before and I was very surprised and not pleased. I went to the stage and tipped this girl a couple of dollars and then asked her for a dance and she rejected it. This club has dances that start at $25 and then go to $60, $100, $150,$250 and $450. She said she only does $60 and up. She was clearly one of the best looking girls working. Don't know if that had anything to do with her rejecting my lap dance offer or not. The reason this really surprised me is because she turned down making money, her whole purpose of being there. And it's not like she had a ton of other guys lined up offering to buy more expensive lap dances, that wasn't the case. This would be like if I owned a gas station and told people I'll only accept gas purchases of $20 bucks or more, and then turned down the rest of the people who were willingly ready to pay for $10 bucks of gas. Makes NO sense to me, but I guess making as much money as she can isn't her priority.
The second thing that happened is they had a $3 lap dance raffle. You buy a ticket for $3, if your ticket gets pulled out of the hat, you get a lap dance for the amount you paid to enter the raffle, $3. I didn't participate.
The last thing is something called a "tip-out" which of course they didn't mention until AFTER I received the lap dance. They wanted me to pay an extra $2 bucks for the dance, but I had spent all my money, so the stripper who gave me a dance covered it.
The raffle was cool, but the other two things were whack, one of you veterans better start explaining. ;)
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She obviously get's the price, but i try to avoid them when they are like that.
I have heard of dancers not doing anything except VIP type dances. I guess if you're making big bucks you can turn the little guys down. What goes around comes around though, she'll find that out if she tries to be a career stripper.
The raffle thing is cool, but I'll bet the winner doesn't get a very good dance unless the dancer is somehow compensated.
We customers turn down dancers all the time and I’m sure many of the dancers may have a particular view on this.
As has been said in many other threads, it’s just business – we can’t take it personal – we just need to be wise “consumersâ€.
Was the tip-out mandatory, and who asked you for it? The technical term for this is "rip-off" and I think it's actually illegal but I could be wrong. What if you ordered and paid for a beer, then when you're done with it the bartender demanded another couple bucks?
lopaw- I agree with you 100%
What makes this even worse, is that I live in the wasteland of strip clubs, Virginia...where all you get is pasties and over-priced lap dances. JacksonEsskay knows what I'm talking about.
In my own experience, i will do a bottom price dance, which is $20 in my hometown, for a nice guy. If he proves to be difficult, i cant dance for him anymore. The $20 isnt enough compensation for the grief. Yes, the whole point of going to work is to make money. If i feel, though, that the person wants too much for the money, hes either got to pay more or find another girl.
I also saw a dancer turn down a $20 dance this weekend. She told the customer that the $60 room was better and that she didn't like doing $20 lap dances. It happens.
GoVikings, you need a trip to Detroit where "$60, $100, $150,$250 and $450" means HJ, BJ, BBBJCIM, FS and 3-way.
As for the mandatory tip-out, if she doesn't tell me about it before the dance, there is nothing mandatory about it. Imagine going to the gas station, pre-paying $20 for gas, pumping your gas, and only then being told that there was a $2 service charge. Think that would fly? I don't.
If a dancer can't make her quota on trips to the VIP, getting customers to buy drinks at the inflated "lady" price helps.
When the VIP room charge started, dancers were supposed to pay the bouncer. Dancers quickly pushed that fee on to the customer.
Club owners and managers are using dancers to collect as much extra money as possible. Thus, upselling, begging for tips, hustling drinks, rejecting $20 dances or two for one specials, cheating on the dance count and trying to shame the customer into paying are all now routine practices. (This begins to sound like the fee games now played by the airlines.)
Add to this the escalating charges for mandatory valet parking, coat checks and booth seating and you can see that the club managers believe that horny men will pay anything to see naked women. Maybe they are right.
Stilleto25- You should give me a dance to make me feel better after getting rejected last Saturday night. ;)
Add to this the escalating charges for mandatory valet parking, coat checks and booth seating and you can see that the club managers believe that horny men will pay anything to see naked women. Maybe they are right."
With the internet, no, they are wrong. Especially with the upcoming generation, who I think, will have few social skills at all.
The difference is that gas station owners aren't selling their bodies. Some strippers won't give it up for any amount. I've never known one who viewed it as purely money for her time.
Demanding more money after the fact, however, is completely inappropriate regardless of the circumstances. If, after the dance, you decide to tip her, that's OK, but any type of house fee or other mandatory surcharge is to be disclosed up front. To use the gas station analogy again, this would be like setting my pumps for $3.49/gal, then telling you AFTER you filled up that the real price is $3.59/gal and that you need to pay the difference.
Ladies, remember: If you don't take care of the customer, someone else will!
The only reason I went there, was because two of my favorites at another club moved there for a while. When they left I stopped going.
A similar thing happened at Sirens years ago when they had the $20, $40 and $60 dances. Several dancers, not always the hottest either, would refuse the $20 or $40.