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14 years ago
I'll amend my previous post re the football analogy. It *is* possible for a woman to quickly learn about the game so that she can converse knowledgeably about it. If she is honestly trying to learn, he'll help you along. But don't embarass him while you're doing it. If you strike a balance of eager interest without being overbearing, then it comes off as endearing. Maybe cute. In rare instances, maybe even hot. Let him take the lead on this.
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14 years ago
Yeah, the writer was 50.
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14 years ago
I think to allow everybody to have their cake, management ought to install some smoke eaters to at least try and decrease the blue cloud. And I don't think you can now minimize the stark disparity between smokeless bars and smokey SCs. It is now impossible to pass off the smoke that clings to your clothes and body as just a visit to a bar. I even tried the excuse that I was at a sports bar and I *walked by* the designated smoking area and that's how I reeked of smoke. Wife glared at me.
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14 years ago
I'm in the camp of not being able to pop at the club. Came close. Have gotten roughed up pretty bad. (How do they not have calloused labia?) So, to have a girl think that her efforts went for naught because I haven't jizzed is disappointing. It may have been a fantastic dance, but the absence or presence of DNA is not the litmus test. The aggressive grinding will probably not bring it about anyway.
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14 years ago
"What works is a dancer moving very slowly and sensually against me, her body pressed closely to mine, faces very close, eyes locked together, our hands mutually caressing each other..."
I gotta go take a cold shower.
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14 years ago
All said before. He doesn't want you there because he can have more fun without you. Maybe he doesn't want the two worlds to collide.
Listen, if your girlfriend says that she wants to watch the Superbowl with you, she better know what the hell is going on and not keep asking dumb questions. In the rare instance that a female knows what a weakside blitz is or a cover-3 or trap blocking, then she can complement the viewing experience. If she doesn't know things like Baltimore used to have a team before the Ravens, she needs to stay away. He has you pegged as the latter, honey.
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14 years ago
Man, you guys need to emulate the *real* pro's: the politicians! What does a pol do when they are working the room and run across a mouthy SOB who just wants to scream at them? They smile, move on, turn their back, start talking to someone else, move to the other side of the room, slap somebody's back, buy somebody a drink. Defuse the stripper shit, don't engage in it.
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14 years ago
What *not* to wear. Stopped off after work one time and my ATF stopped after a couple of dances because my suit pants were a wool blend. Too damned scratchy for her. I apologized and didn't wear them again. No way I'm going to let some material screw up a dance.
One time I was changing from my club clothes back into my work clothes to go home. It was in the dirt parking lot, far away from the door, almost out on the highway. The door guy and a couple of bouncers came out and ran me off. They had cameras that could see that far out. Glad they were watching for that and not for all of the contact inside the club. I'll take that trade-off.
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14 years ago
Time is all off.
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14 years ago
Actually, be on the lookout for when she does her "look". If she is a really good stripper, they can have a way of checking out the customers in subtle ways. She may be looking back at you when she is laying in front of the guy across the stage. She may go back to the mirrored wall and face away from the crowd but be looking at you in the reflection. It's a skill that you need to develop kind of like a cornerback--where is the quarterback looking? If the girl is looking at you and you miss it, you do deserve to miss out. But if she is catching a quick look at you and you catch it and return it, you are golden. Or she is. Depends on how you look at it.
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14 years ago
Rod, I knew this one visit (Bonita's) was going to be about 3 minutes, so I didn't take another set of clothes. Had I gone in the middle of the afternoon for a regular visit and not taken a set of clothes (thinking that I'd just go home and take a shower before she came home from work) I would have had a big surprise. Smokey clothes and being gone from the house the whole time. It would have hit the MF fan. All bars around here are now smoke-free, I think.
I was on another thread talking about all of the precautions you have to take with smokey clothes, perfumes, glitter, stray hairs on the car seats, etc. For the skin and hair, I usually have to stop off and take paper towels and scrub my skin (face, neck, back of neck, ears, arms, around mouth--due to pussy juices, and even wet down my hair). I also use the 55mph open window blow dryer. Even then I try to gin up an excuse to take a shower before jumping into bed (after she's asleep).
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14 years ago
sc, that's about right. With all the vigorous grinding, do you all ever have to ask a girl to slow it down so your dick doesn't take too much of a beating? Do some of the girls have teflon coochies?
Because of my limitations, I can only spend about an hour or so in a club before my cover story starts to unravel. A few weeks ago I went to one club to fill out the membership crap, knowing that they weren't going to let me in that day. Did it and took off, very little exposure to any smoke. Went right back home and the wife had unexpectedly come home from work sick. If it hadn't been a planned short-term trip, that one could have blown up in my face. So you never quite know.
If it is a new club, I need to hang for at least a couple of hours to get a good feel for the club and see a complete rotation. If I'm feeling no love at that point, I fold the tent and go home (or try to work in a quick stop on the way home).
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14 years ago
59, I had a pair or sweat pants where the one pocket had a huge hole. Direct access into the boxers. I told the dancer about it and was able to have a good time. But some clubs don't allow sweat pants. On previous post I talked about a dancer using the tails of the shirt to hide Mr. Happy after she unzipped and unbuttoned me.
As far as the look: if you don't look too damn eager, but are sincerely appreciative during the stage tip, then they can tell. I've seen the guys trying to show their money, but the business casual guys with a little gray swoop in and usually make the big score. I just got my AARP card, so maybe now I can get some of the benefits?
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14 years ago
farmerart: Do you guys have any problems when you try and put a whole stack of bills in the girl's garter? The stacks are so heavy that they tend to fall out. Should I just stuff all the stacks into a bag and hand her the bag? This $4.00 gas is really a pisser, isn't it?
bookguy: I think the solution is the correlation between the length of her inseam and her cup size. Inverse proportions are a real red flag. See my other 2,000 word post for the formulas. My fantasy is also my reality but I do not posit that your reality need intrude on my reality. The spherical nature of the mammaries usually causes minor defibrillation and perspiration on the inside of my clenched fists.
troop: Loser pl. wake up and smell the coffee, princess.
steve229: I was standing at the bar the other night and a dancer walked past me, whirled around and came back to stand in front of me. She reached down and started lightly punching my nuts--babita-babita--like the speed bags in the boxing gym. What do you think that meant?
lopaw: Probably that you don't need a set to get a girl.
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14 years ago
Rick, sound advice. I probably shouldn't put myself in a position where I am seeing girls that I should first be patting down. Just a couple of quick ones: do you go only at night? OTC for me would have to probably be during the day and local. Also, if you do it on the road, do you have the time to vet these girls on a quick trip, or have you already established a beach head with them and you are just revisiting them?
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14 years ago
Man, the more I read the background articles, the less I like the looks of it. When some of you old special forces military guys start packing and taking extraordinary precautions, I get nervous. Even if I don't pick a ROB, I have absolutely no room for error. If the girl knew that I can't have any slip-ups, then she could even use that as leverage. All she'd have to do is peek at my DL or car registration, then drop a hint abound driving down [my street] some time, and she'd have me by the short hairs.
Met a tall black girl one time and she soon asked me if I'd like to be her sugar daddy [red flag]. She gave me her number and I called it later. She and her kids were living at a motel [red flag]. She mentioned that she had been kicked out of the domestic violence shelter [two red flags]. I said that I had enough time to drive over (30 minutes) and have lunch. She bitched about giving her enough notice to get ready [red flag]. When I showed up, I parked in the lot and she came out and said some things to a black dude and girl that walked to their car [red flag]. It looked like she was maybe traveling with them [red flag]. Took her to lunch, and she bitched about most things, mostly lack of money [red flag]. Radar for me was up; I didn't look for any afternoon delight from her. I dropped her off and she hit me up for more money and I gave her a little, but I didn't bring much extra. Glad I drove away.
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14 years ago
I like the natural tan lines, but showing just the skimpiest bikini. Those tiny little flashes of white skin really show a contrast. If it is dark all over, then I know it is a tanning bed since there are no naked beaches around here.
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14 years ago
Oh, realist, you're a cold bastard. But a smart one, too.
It might add something to know why she was banned. A fav of mine got banned one time. After some time I found out there had been a nasty hair-pulling battle royale between two dancers. There were some accusations flying about. Maybe about extras. Real or perceived. Turns out maybe she should have been banned.
The problem is that the OTC might spoil you so that if she went to a low mileage club your transition may be too much of a jolt. Like going from driving in the Daytona 500 and then driving the family car in the church parking lot with the windows rolled down. Not the same.
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14 years ago
Depends on my mood. If I'm having a bad night, I let the awkwardness fester awhile. I even ask her about other dancers (which kind of pisses them off). If the hints don't work, and I am quite sure that I am leaving anyway, I jump up and chug my drink and bid her adieu and march out. Usually leaves them dumbstruck.
But most of the time, if I sense that it will be painful to sit and talk, I'll tell them "Thanks, but I'm not interested".
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14 years ago
gmd, I suppose the opposite is true as well. Their more sensitive receptors may register pleasure more readily than most people, too. The cream colored, freckled skin with the flowing red hair doesn't do much for me, but I know it drives some guys wild. Those Irish lasses with the flaming curled tresses flowing onto their shoulders might do it, though.
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14 years ago
It sounds a little like trying to thread a needle while riding a motorcycle sometimes. Some of my possibles don't give me much confidence that they will remember some of the critical details, but your advice about avoiding any record is sound. I suppose it is as it always is: if something is going to happen, then she will make sure it happens, and if she wants it to happen, then her organizational skills and memory will improve dramatically.
I scanned the last year or so of articles and blogs and didn't see much. Appreciate the tips. Given your track record, how do you know when your OTC fav is asking for more than you want? In other words--too clingy?
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14 years ago
I am also in steve and clubber's club. So most of the sights need to be up close. As a result, for LDs, the face doesn't need to be great since for most of the moves there isn't face-to-face contact. There are moves with her kneeling, standing, standing and bending over, knees on my shoulders, laying across my lap, and others where I'm not really looking at her face.
I haven't seen anybody yet where the body was 8-10 but the face was below a 5. So a near-sighted guy will always settle for a 5 face for a chance to feel a 9 body. OTC needs to be better than that.
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14 years ago
This was one of those breaches of stripper etiquette that I don't understand. I would think that there should have been a "no harm, no foul" on this one. If #1 had to go to the RR, there was nothing written on your forehead that said that you were reserved for her. These other girls are all independent contractors.
The only way that this could have been some breach is if #1 said to #2 that she was going to give you a lapper but she had to go to the RR first. At that point, #2 swooped in, knowing that you were lined up for #1. If it didn't happen this way--even if #1 told girl B and girl B told #2--that still shouldn't be a problem. Sometimes I'm at a game and I have to go to the RR. I may have missed a good dunk during that time, but that's just the way it goes.
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14 years ago
Because dancers have a wide range of appearances and have a wide range of attitudes, I have hooked up with dancers who all shared a confident, intelligent, poised, naughty, edgy personality. As a result, they all ended up looking different.
There have been some hot black girls that have shown an interest and I have made their efforts well worth it (but don't touch their hair!). The girls with long black hair that you can get tangled in is always fun. (And with a glow-in-the-dark stud in her pussy lips, and you know who I'm talking about, girl). The blondes always need to bring their A game, because I'm usually skeptical. A brunette that wants to get close and whisper in my ear is good. Redheads are few and far between and generally don't do anything for me--it is true that they are slightly more sensitive to pain so maybe that's why they are a little more irritable. Neither attracted to, nor repulsed by, Asians or Latinas. Have had good times with each, but I don't have an obsession to find them.
A bubblehead with a shitty attitude and fake tits (and I don't care if she looks like a million bucks)? Next please!
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14 years ago
Heidi's point is well taken (and taken and taken. . .). Some girls sweat more than others, so that's a sure sign that you are not the special one when Sweatie Sue feeds you that line. There have been some times where the girl's skin is bone dry and there are some slow and sensual moves, but digital recon confirmed that the pussy was very involved.
One time I had a girl who had tried out at the club and was then just hanging with her dancer cousin. She looked like she needed a pick-me-up so I cajoled her into some LDs in her civilian clothes (loose blouse, short skirt). First song was slow, but she started getting into it. By the end of the fourth song she had climaxed (it wasn't fake) and she was spent. I got home and noticed that my suit pants had a 2-inch tear at the crotch, where she had really been grinding. Need to get the tear sewn up, but her scent is still there. I found out later that she had gotten pregnant, was moving back to her home town, and that I was probably her last dance. I showed some interest in her and I do think she was showing her appreciation. Heidi, we all know that the comment is pure SS, but there are a few times that the evidence just can't be faked. A good customer will know the difference.