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16 years ago
I have always gone alone. I've never had trouble. Being in the Marines I learned to walk with my head up, and to walk with a purpose. I also learned "the look". It's the kind of look John Wayne gave that said "you're flirting with death".
If you look like a target, you will be. It also helps to cruise the parking lot, and of course, to avoid neighborhoods where there's a Police Helicopter circling overhead, a SWAT truck on the corner, and reporters in flak jackets.
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16 years ago
You know, I'm fascinated by this. My first lover trained me to withhold so that it takes me at least an hour to reach the finish line. Strippers who appreciate this are few and far between. Most are used to guys who get there after just a few minutes of stimulation. I don't know what it's like to be so that you easily get there.
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16 years ago
Girls are being a lot more friendly nowadays, may be due to the economy. Just last week, one gal pounced on my dick-no condom, asking only 200 when most girls charge 300 for a fuck. Days later, at the same club, a gal provided a TUSCL'er a BBBJCIM. At another club, in the VIP, I was allowed to be as nude as the dancer in the VIP room for a noisy fuck (creak, creak).
I think girls are just working harder nowadays at marketing themselves.
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16 years ago
I wouldn't say that a stripper that provides extras is a cheater. I believe it's a stripper's job to, at the very least, provide the GFE. A stripper who goes the extra mile and does extras is merely a professional.
If you want to think about cheating in the strict sense, a stripper who strips is a cheater, let alone provides the GFE, or does extras.
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16 years ago
I've been to a lot of clubs. The only time something similar happened was when I clicked with a waitress. She had a major exam in the morning, lived outside of town and my hotel was five minutes from her college. She stayed overnight, but it was platonic.
I've had a couple of friends who were strippers. We had great conversations, but they made sure I never saw them nude (they respected me???).
Your pickup of the girl almost sounds like a letter from Penthouse. You either:
Scored a one in a million girl, or
Scored a nymphomaniac, or
Scored the girlfriend of a guy just tossed in a joint and she's either trying to replace him, or get even with him.
Good luck. I hope y'all have a great time together.
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16 years ago
1) Good Hygiene
2) Be interesting. Know a series of non mysoginist jokes, or be read up on something interesting (without being intimidating). Subjects like, aviation, finance, authors, movies, etc.
3) Dress for success
4) If you get extras from her on the first meet, that helps. If you tell her you want extras with body language (i.e. slipping your finger in her), it tells her you're not a vice cop. If you ask for extras, vocally, then OTC, she'll think you're a cop.
5) Don't ask her for OTC the first time you meet her. You have to cultivate an OTC date, so on the second meet, ask if she would consider OTC. If she says yes, don't push the subject (unless she asks if you have a hotel room). On the third meet, ask if she has a hotel preference. I know one gal who preferred a room at a hotel that was like a mini strip club. It had a small stage, stripper's pole, mini bar, circular bed, and of course-video on demand.
6) Lastly, you can impress her by not only tipping her well, but also the waitresses that serve your drinks. Sometimes, tippers have alliances with waitresses. At certain clubs, you can ask a waitress if she knows a dancer that does extras.
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16 years ago
If there has been any blackmailing, it hasn't been made public. Actually, it would be stupid for a club to use that footage for blackmail as someone would call the cops (for revenge) and the club owners/operators would find themselves in deep dark doo doo for:
soliciting prostitution
promoting prostitution
extortion
money laundering
and in this era of extremely zealous prosecutors, the prosecution would find a way to work in sex trafficking. So, even with plea bargaining, we're looking at 10-20 years (except in California-child rapists get probation, murderers get three years, go figure).
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16 years ago
I am so sorry you got burned. I've only been to VIP (Champagne Room) three times. Because of the money involved, I not only speak plainly with the dancer, but I illustrate I'm not some cop playing the word game by sticking my finger in her pussy and saying "I want to fuck". No vice cop would do that.
The girl played the word game with you. However, I stick around the club long enough to watch where and when the manager is making his rounds. If I notice he's ignoring the private rooms, it's definitely go time.
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16 years ago
Since at least 2004, I have found full on two way contact at a number of Houston clubs, I don't know why Treasures seems to get all the notice here. Also, YMWV. In 04, Houston Dolls was basically a Roman Orgy in progress. I was heading to a back room with a dancer and there was either BJ or FS going on in every room we passed. Anyway, this one hot little number there was the only one not giving it up. She wouldn't even let you get a hand near her kitty. Months later, ran into her at Fantasy Plaza North. We headed to a back room and after a song she figured out that I wanted more than a LD, so she relocated us to a more secluded room. Just like at Dolls, panties were hung on a nail at the door to signal extras were going on. In that room, GFE, DATY and FS. St. James has always been hit or miss. All dancers allow two way contact, but only some offer extras. Champagne or VIP rooms are just places to fuck in North Houston clubs. About the only trend I've noticed is that managers will suddenly patrol if they think a raid is imminent, or if it's just after a raid.
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16 years ago
ALWAYS-first OTC date-take her to a motel, ALWAYS. There are a number of dancers only too happy to let you take her to your place, then she tells her loser criminal boyfriend whether you have an alarm system, best way to get in, what to take, etc. It is all too common for guys to get burgled within days of an OTC date. The series of raids on the Treasures club happened because a circuit judge took a dancer home, and the next day, he was burgled-paybacks are a mother.
If she puts up with a year or more of the hotel dates, and she's not flighty, then she's possibly okay (nothing is 100%) to take home.
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16 years ago
Let's be 100 percent honest here. In a two or three song set onstage, for the first song she's fully clothed. It's rare for a dancer to get tipped when she's fully clothed. It's during the second song, when her top comes off that guys go up because they're "inspecting the merchandise".
So, given that, the first song, when she's ignored anyway, is a chance for her to sparkle, to impress. Think of it as an audition or job interview. She's applying for the position of your personal lapper, and if she goes up and just slowly walks around the pole looking bored, she's not that interesting. She might be a tiger in the back room, but first impressions are lasting impressions. If she's too aggressive onstage, that frightens me, but if she does a couple of tricks and flirts with the audience, that's a plus for her.
I don't know where how has been going. I haven't seen blowjobs, full penetration, or DATY going on onstage since my last TJ trip 25 years ago. Sounds like an interesting place.
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16 years ago
Yep. Innocent people can get arrested and convicted. If you're depending on the court system, then good luck.
Usually, a good lawyer can get you off (plead it down to disorderly conduct, 100 dollar fine, next!), but not before the local news people convict you in the court of public opinion, then there's your job-do they mind that you got popped?
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16 years ago
Come to think about it, they are an under represented minority in the clubs. Of all the clubs I've been to, I can't remember seeing a south asian in a strip club, although I saw a south asian prostitute in Los Angeles once, but it was also obvious she was a junkie.
Keep in mind that Indian society is a society where public displays of affection are illegal. There are no nude beaches in India (public nudity is banned) and the nude ban even carries over into their very prosperous movie industry (Bollywood). Indians living outside of India live in an old world society, where there is a lot of familial pressure to succeed in high end occupations. The family in the movie "Bend it like Beckham" is actually very typical.
I've been going to the same laundromat for twelve years (although I can afford better). The family that owns it has three daughters, who have all gone to work for Price Waterhouse as accountants. The boy, on the other hand, is a slacker. He's highly intelligent, but he's also committed to not working in a high end occupation.
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16 years ago
It would be the ones who remind me of poodles-little turds with big mouths. I that case it would be Owen Wilson, Ben Affleck, David Letterman, and the rest of that smug Hollywood crowd who think they're too damn smart.
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16 years ago
Al Bundy Quotes:
show them, as only you can, that the female body is not to be appreciated, but to be feared, reviled and in the case of most of you, kept totally covered at all times.
Al : You'll never guess what I dreamt about at work today!
Peg : Me?
Al : Yes!
Peg : Was I in bed?
Al : Yes! As a matter of fact I'd tied you up!
Peg : Ooh Al, that's so kinky! What were you doing?
Al : Cindy Crawford!
Now wait a second. My pretty teenage daughter with the brain of a fruit-fly earned a thousand dollars in three nights. Should I be worried?
Peggy : Am I getting old, Al?
Al : How do I know? I never look at you.
Peg, you can stab me with knives, you can beat me with clubs, you can make me open my eyes when we're having sex but there's no way on earth you can make me get a second job.
I had a dream last night. A big red haired mosquito in tight pants was hovering over me sucking money out of my wallet.
Peggy : Tell me you love me, Al.
Al : I love football, I love beer, let's not cheapen the meaning of the word.
Peggy : Tell me you love me, Al
Al : Peggy, it hurts my stomach.
Pretty women make us buy beer. Ugly women make us drink beer.
[a pregnant Peggy is sitting up in bed and wolfing down food]
Peggy: Gee Al, I don't know about you, but I'm horny as hell.
Al: Well, so am I, but you don't see me bothering you with it, do you?
Jefferson: So, where's the man who's ready to leave home and go bag some babes?
Al: Right here.
Marcy: Oh please, you couldn't bag your own wife.
Al: No, I could bag her. But it doesn't do me any good. I still remember what she looks like.
Where the music stinks, and they water the drinks, the nudie bar.
Where the girlies dance in their underpants, the nudie bar.
Where you see their butt, and their trap stays shut, at the nudie bar.
Where you can't touch a breast, but you can cave in a chest, at the nudie bar.
Where you look at a thigh, and blacken an eye, at the nudie bar.
Where the beer gives you gas, but the Bundys kick ass, at the nudie bar.
Where a buck's enough to see their stuff, at the nudie bar.
Where the breasts may be fake but man do they shake, at the nudie bar.
Where you swear like a sailor, and wish you could nail her, at the nudie bar.
Where the cops are at the door, and there's a Kennedy on the floor, at the nudie bar.
Where Christmas is nice, and lap dances are half price, at the nudie bar.
Where you drink down the shooters, and unwrap the hooters, at the nudie bar.
Where eggnogs are plenty, and the girls all twenty, at the nudie bar.
Ironhead Haynes' Nine Commandments
1. It's okay to call hooters "knockers" and sometimes "snack trays."
2. It is wrong to be French.
3. It's okay to put all bad people in a giant meat grinder.
4. Lawyers: see rule three.
5. It is okay to drive a gas guzzler if it helps you get babes.
6. Everyone should car pool but me.
7. Bring back the word "stewardesses"
8. Synchronized Swimming is not a sport.
9. Mudwrestling is a sport.
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16 years ago
Men- see women and only see a pair of breasts and a vagina
Women-see men and think dollars = shopping = fun
A couple of times I've had strippers say "I remember you", but actually I only remembered them once I saw her tits. However, the first thing I notice in a woman I'm interested in is her eyes. I'm deeply offended when I see articles like the above where ALL men are lumped in as insensitive oversexed pigs. The article does tell the truth towards the end where it says women depersonalize men, but no research was done on it. That's because raging feminist man hating psychos would prefer no research be done on women who look at men and see only dollar signs.
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16 years ago
It's like the story of the straight A college student, going for her Masters in Psychology, went to the Bunny Ranch in Reno to interview girls-to find out their true motivations. Turns out, she found out that with her body and brains she could make six figures as a hooker and decided to go that route until she decides to apply her masters-or with her money, get her doctorate. I Luuuuuuv it when women like that puzzle raging feminists like Diane Sawyer.
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16 years ago
Over the past few years, I've ponied up the ten bucks, like I just renewed for ten bucks-but that comes with two DVD's. I did it only for the reason I know that my subscription will cost them money. I want the magazine to either die, or fall into the arms of someone who knows what they are doing. Hef lost touch with America thirty years ago.
I am complaining because I can do better. First thing I would do is fire the writing staff, then hire writers in touch with America and reality. The magazine, in it's present form, would go away. The 20 questions, along with the big giant interview would go away. The fiction story (who reads that shit?) would go away. I'd talk to the NRA and have a gun of the month feature. There would also be a classic car of the month feature-with a proud owner telling us what he did to fix up his 69 stang. There would be a better movie section. Once a month, there would be a porn star in the mag (no blondes with surgically altered hooters). Girls would be selected from across the American spectrum, and found in new places. Besides the cloning effect of Playmates going on now, the other problem is that they all come from upper middle class homes. The new playmates would be found in convenience stores, Walmart, restaurants, and in hair salons. They will be white, black, asian, hispanic, and if found-native American. Finally, the only time "Celeb" will be used on the cover is when a well known B actress, or A lister actually decides to bare all-no more reality stars-they ain't celebs.
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16 years ago
Things to consider:
Busby was a bill collector, and part time stripper, but when she was laid off, she started stripping fulltime. If Busby let it slip she had been a bill collector....
The place was a "bikini bar", although it wasn't allowed to sell alcohol, it still did. The place was also known to be pretending to be a bikini bar, when actually it was a brothel. If Busby made Theriault-Odom's boyfriend feel "real good", perhaps Theriault-Odom was jealous, after all Busby was a looker.
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16 years ago
1) The video and TV divisions of Playboy are making money, it's the magazine itself which is a quickly sinking ship. The magaine needs a drastic overhaul, cover to cover. The writing is either elitest and pandering to a tiny audience, or the writing is downright awful. The writing staff is far left wing and out of touch with mainstream America. The models are identical, blonde with surgically altered hooters-Hef's type. The models are also airbrushed to the point where they're no longer recognizable as humans. The magazine itself appeals only to couples with an income well over six figures. It hasn't been a men's magazine in years.
2) It would be a stroke of brilliance if Hooters bought the magazine. Hooters girls, nowadays, are actually more desireable, more approachable, than Playmates. The restaurant chain would have a virtually inexhaustable supply of models. Bunnymag was at it's best (1970's) when it had clubs. Hooters could take the extra step of having "premium restaurants" where the waitresses wore very very little. The marriage of magazine and restaurant chain would be a perfect match.
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16 years ago
I went to a sugar daddy site and actually found a high school girl there. She had wrecked her parent's car and was in a mess. You'd have to be a fool to take that bait though.
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16 years ago
A "Sugar Daddy" site would be a better place to look than here. At this site, we prefer naked women who know how to grind, purr, and give the GFE.
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16 years ago
I think it's a good idea, I like it.
I prefer strippers that are straight up, and there are some out there.
I was eating out one asian chick five years ago and she really liked it. I have to say also, I focused strictly on her clit because she had a tampon up there. Anyway, when I stopped, and her head cleared, I asked her "How much?" She told me she had lost count and we settled on 150.00, but we had been in the room about an hour. She promised OTC when her cycle was over, but I didn't see her again.
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16 years ago
Petite, short, looking like a teen Katie Holmes, with a personality like Dakota Fanning (she is an old soul).
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16 years ago
Imagine Roberta was your ATF, or a cousin, or neighbor. Imagine seeing her 8 and 4 year old crying. Imagine losing that aspect of yourself that provides your living because a jealous person took it from you. Would you want help?