Hooking up with a dancer
sports_guy24
I know most dancers wont go home or to a hotel with a guy the first time they meet at a club, but what are somethings you can do to increase the odds in your favor? I have heard dont spend money, dress like you have money, etc. What has worked for you guys?
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2) Be interesting. Know a series of non mysoginist jokes, or be read up on something interesting (without being intimidating). Subjects like, aviation, finance, authors, movies, etc.
3) Dress for success
4) If you get extras from her on the first meet, that helps. If you tell her you want extras with body language (i.e. slipping your finger in her), it tells her you're not a vice cop. If you ask for extras, vocally, then OTC, she'll think you're a cop.
5) Don't ask her for OTC the first time you meet her. You have to cultivate an OTC date, so on the second meet, ask if she would consider OTC. If she says yes, don't push the subject (unless she asks if you have a hotel room). On the third meet, ask if she has a hotel preference. I know one gal who preferred a room at a hotel that was like a mini strip club. It had a small stage, stripper's pole, mini bar, circular bed, and of course-video on demand.
6) Lastly, you can impress her by not only tipping her well, but also the waitresses that serve your drinks. Sometimes, tippers have alliances with waitresses. At certain clubs, you can ask a waitress if she knows a dancer that does extras.
In that regard, hygiene and good attitude are basic and essential. Seeming interesting and fun also obviously helps. Beyond that, it naturally depends on each lady: how important a factor is money, how important are your looks, how important are your clothes, etc. There is no set formula for those things, and luck is a huge factor in meeting the right woman.
J: I don’t have any coke. How else can I fuck a stripper?
N8: Ah, you want a challenge. Too good to possess an illegal narcotic are you? Fine. Here are some other helpful hints: treat them like shit, blow them off, beat up their boyfriends, don’t be a sucker (i.e. give them any more than roughly ten dollars in a night), don’t be a deadbeat (i.e. fail to give them any money at all), and don’t speak in complete sentences (these chicks think they’re exploiting you because you’re dumb—let them think it, destroying their illusions will get you nowhere). Also, always lie about what you do for a living. I’m always a minor league baseball player who just got signed by the Yankees (they have a minor league team in Tampa), but you can be any athlete or entertainer you want. My buddy Mike gets far with “professional kick boxer.†I suggest youpick the sport or entertainment industry segment you know the most about. Always take them to a motel (just trust me on this one, you do not want them knowing where you live) and only drink straight alcohol in front of them (you’re a pansy if you need coke in your Jack Daniels). In the end though, it’s just easier to have a bunch of cocaine. Trust me on this.
This was a quote from someone who claims to have dated two strippers. (http://www.pointsincase.com/columns/nath…)
Of course, this is just one guy's view on things so take it with a grain of salt...good luck to you though!
There is a favorite of mine that offered to meet me for lunch but she wanted to get paid for her time. She is also the only favorite that has tried to get me to splurge for the Champagne Room. She is known for being the hardest worker at the club but also known as the biggest drunk. 2 DUI's in the last 6 months. On each occasion I have simply relied "C'mon. This is me. Get real". So why do I keep her around? Great lap dances. Last time we did 6 songs ending in a BBBJ. She asked for $100. NO! Then $80. NO. She settled for $60. Over the years I have lost many drug using favorite dancers. They all got fired from the club and moved away. Moral "Drugs are not always the answer".
Eh, just a little technical point.
1. Money talks. Depending on the situation location girl club jurisdiction phase of the moon, everyone has a price. Within that assumption, however, there are other factors that can mitigate against total bankruptcy.
2. The "desirability" factors above. Especially with younger or less expeienced girls, the more you seem like she can fool herself into thinking, "Actually, I really enjoy it, and the money is icing on the cake," types of rationalizations, then the more likely you can get with her. Hygiene, "coolness" (I never have cracked that code, but it has something to do, with knowing a lot of stuff but not showing it off, and yet being able to cooperate with her interest in hearnig about a lot of stuff from you), clothing, smell, shaving (SHAVE DAMMIT! stubble hurts; more than one girl I know of, refuses lappers, or refuses face-to-tits, with any guy whose face might hurt her skin), etc.
3. Attitude. A close corrollary to desirability. A snot-nosed hairy behemoth with garlic breath who drives a 94 Civic likely pays more if he bores a girl than if he enthralls her with his witty repartee. And, since we're all of us probably snot-nosed hairy behemoths with garlic breath who drive 94 Civics, we need to learn to be decent funny fun people.
3.a. However, women respond oddly to attitude signals. Note that if you are super-nice, friendly, sweet, and desperately determined to give her everything that she wants, this may turn her OFF rather than on. This has something to do with the fact that, instinctively, when a human female seeks male cotact, what she needs is someone that she's sure is going to protect and provide for her and the inevitable offspring. That means he has to be pussy-whipped enough to stick around; but aggressive enough to fend off rival males, defend her from lions, and hunt down gazelles for her to eat. Funny mix, most men don't understand it. Be nice, but not at the expense of being independent of her. Need her, but don't be needy. She wants to think she's "caught" you. Of course, that's more applicable to "real" dating than to stripper-services. Strippers can factor out the "is he a weakling?" part of the equation (if they're self-aware enough to do so) because the "provide" part of the equation is determined solely by the monetary exchange.
4. And, something that people haven't mentioned, logistics. "Which hotel do you prefer" hints at this issue. If there's nowhere to go fuck, then she might refuse the transaction more out of worry about the annoyance, loss of time, or general boredom, than out of revulsion about you. If the private rooms are not conducive to fucking -- you didn't tip the bouncer and waitress to leave you alone? there are cameras? this just isn't done in this club? -- then don't bother to put in a lot of energy to try to get girls to give you in-club services. In many (most!) places, it just isn't done. Sure, a few adventurous gals may want to be the first to help you put cum-stains on the new carpet and are willing to risk getting kicked out of that particular club permanently, but that's an advanced technique which depends on the number of other clubs in the area where she can go work, the general jurisdictional restrictions and attitude toward that sort of stuff, whether or not Vinnie the bouncer just kicks her out or kicks her out and kicks her butt (and YOUR butt).
Logistics is a tough nut to crack. If it isn't there (and believe me, girls are ALWAYS worrying about logistics -- just look at how fucking elaborate they get about taking a goddamn BATH!) then not only will YOU have a rough time making the act take place, but also SHE will be put off and probably less cooperative. She doesn't want one of those "oh, no, that hotel was booked, let's go across the street, oh, no, it's booked too" nights. She wants it all to "just happen," whether she's a stripper or a civilian.
"It just happened" -- chick-language for "the guy did all sorts of bullshit to work out the logistics and then seduce me so that I could lie to myself, pretend that I had no agency in the event, blame him if it doesn't turn out right, and basically remain a frivolous childish flighty but sweet delightful girlie-girl after I fuck him like the craven desperate nymphomaniacal horn-dog gaping slut that I really want to sometimes play at being."
Alcohol is a drug moron...did you empty your liquor cabinet yet scat??
The most important thing is money.
You can get any woman you want if you can make her laugh.
If she thinks you have enough money to be worthwhile and she really laughs at your cute, funny comments then you're in.
The most important thing is money.
You can get any woman you want if you can make her laugh."
Maybe many women, but certainly not ALL.