Comments by Nigel

www.clubexpose.net in San Diego is a very nice site. They recently updated it to include a list of the girls currently dancing and have lots of photos (tho' without names). Pretty nice club too.

I usually don't care for "bolt ons". My ATF has a very nice set, but I am crazy about her, not just her boobs. I knew another girl who had the most perfect pair I've ever seen, and on a very petite body. I figured they had to be great implants, but they were so wonderfully soft. I never got the nerve to ask her, but when she told me how guilty she felt lying to her family about going to the gym when the new muscles really came from dancing I realized they had to be real. She's out of the business now - good for her, not for me!

San Diego to Anaheim. Doesn't sound to far, only 90 miles or so, but one time it took about 2.5 hours (So Cal drivers in the rain). She was worth it.

I'm with Fondl on this one. This whole recent discussion on morality is amazingly misguided. I can't believe that moderate Christians allowed themselves to be used by this ungodly immoral administration. I voted striclty on moral issues as well, and it sure as hell wasn't for W!

First thing she asked is if I had braces as a kid. (No) Said that because hers are crooked she always notices people with straight teeth. Personally, I think she could have saved some money on the GIANT boobs and got the braces.

My ATF does that, but I find it to be very rare. (Also in California - wait a minute! Hey buddy! Get away from my girl!! JK!) Even though we have become good friend and I would love to think I'm special, I know better. One of the reasons she's a top earner at the club. I've had other girls give lite kisses on the lips, but thats about it.

Sure, much about the relationships at clubs as davids describes them are sick. However, there is much about our culture in general that is sick - how we worship fame, attractiveness and wealth, how we devalue those that provide true positives to society, how we can justifiy immoral acts by how much money it can bring in (government & business, not strippers!). But I think what davids posts show most of all is how conflicted he is. He gets great pleasure out of his time with these girls, yet he feels he is exploiting them. So to justify his exploitation, he denigrates them. I think he is better off gone, but I don't think he will be able to stay away. The way I see it, the best way to live is to treat people well and remember - "Guilt Sucks!"

Interesting questions davids, with different answers. I've thought about this as my daughter (who knows about my hobby and my ATF) at 23 is only 3 years younger than my ATF and certainly has the looks to do this job. I've met many different types of girls in the clubs, many who don't do extras, have a high sense of self worth and are genuinely doing it for fun and profit for a short period of time. My ATF has a young child and a seriously f'd up familly who are all dependent on her for financial support. I know she sometimes feels trapped in the job because of it, and I would truly like to see her get out. If my daughter was in a healthy state of mind and a "clean" dancer, I could live with it I guess. I've always tried to teach her a healthy attitude about sexuality & nudity. On the other hand, like you, I've seen the men at the clubs, and frankly I have less respect for them than I do the dancers. Besides, she's my little girl, I've always wanted to punch out guys just for looking at her. However, in the other examples you gave, unable to support her child any other way, drug habit, low self esteem, etc. I realize that is the reality of many of these girls and I feel it is far more a failure of their family support system then a life style choice in most cases. If my daughter danced for these reasons, then I should be locked up for my failure as a father.

I have been in this type of a relationship for almost a year. I consider her a dear friend and I know she feels the same. And there has been no money involved. Could it lead to something more? I doubt it - she's almost half my age. I'm not counting on it, but I would be open to it. At least we are both single.

Wouldn't it be great if life were really as black and white as Davids so clearly sees it?

Saw a girl at my favorite club a couple of weeks ago. It took a while, but I realized it was a girl that had been fired for being fall down drunk a couple of months before (guess it didn't stick). I told my ATF that she shouldn't have cut her hair. I was informed she didn't, that she usually wore extensions. She looks 100x better with them. She was the first girl I ever got laps from at this place, but if she looked like she did the other night, I wouldn't have looked twice. If done well, they can make all the difference. Like the difference between a bad and a good boob job.

Wow, Dan. Judging from RL's next 3 posts, you really got him going on this one. I would guess he can't get a dancer to give him the time of day. Hope this works out for you. I've got a cell phone # from one girl (never called), a e-mail from an other (a few e-mails back and forth). However, from my ATF, I got the real name & number and after a year, hours and hours of great conversation and a true friendship. And, sorry RL, no cash has been exchanged.

6'4", 260, white, brown hair, graying temples. Van dyke (been told a goatee doesn't include moustache), one green and one brown eye. 51 years old, always told I look 38 to 43. Interesting how many of us include that last part.

My favorite - Jennifer Connolly, but with smaller boobs.

I confess I enjoy all three of the above-mentioned activities, for different reasons. Strips clubs are about fantasy, AMP's are about being pampered (and sex) and escorts are about sex, period. I have to disagree with the last poster. At least in So. Cal, for the amount of money easily spent in a club, you can spend an hour with a stripper quality escort (looks wise). By the way, I'm not married and not looking for a relationship. I think I would limit myself to the SC's once I became seriously involved with someone.

One escort I know (and actually dated for a while) started as a stripper, but said she was too shy and was not a good hustler. And she took it too personally when guys turned her down for laps. And a dancer at Olympic Gardens in Vegas who met me for an outcall later said she was trying to do less dancing and more escorting. As far as Koreans running the AMPs - I have seen some truly beautiful Korean massage girls in So Cal and SF Bay. Some give great massage and most really provide great service. There was one girl at a (now closed) San Diego area AMP that was absolutely the best - I think I would have married her if she caught me at the right moment.

Corey, check out theeroticreview.com and Craigslist under "erotic" in your town. I always make sure a girl has several good reviews on TER by guys with several reviews. And I NEVER see a Craigslist girl unless she has reviews on TER. I've never gone wrong and found more then a few gems. Of course, this is all just make believe.

Now, I'm a big car guy and I can appreciate a dancer named Porsche (as long as they don't pronounce it "porch"!) and Mercedes as they can also be real names. But the girl I met last week, Lamborghini, was a bit much. In fact, she was a bit much in general.

Some friends were sitting around and making up our porn names. With my best Sean Connery voice I said, "I'm Nigel, Nigel Woodley"