Comments by SteveSutton (page 2)

7, sugar baby, mid 30, late 40.

Freddie Mercury. That’s the list.

If she's really beautiful and fit and in her 40's ... yeah, I'm a sucker. But that rate is what I've paid for companionship in cities like Vegas and LA, and they were in their 20's and reasonably hot, certainly hot for this 50 year old. Seeking (SA) is addicting like that because there is a virtually unlimited supply of ladies in a lower age-range (20-30) who for an amount far less than $500 (in smaller cities) will go out for an evening with you, have a nice dinner, maybe even see a movie and then retire with you for a few hours after that. SA is also the reason that for a while I didn't club at all because it was all SA all the time on my business trips ... just been WAY too many disappointing evenings in clubs with either no interest in OTC, or interest but then flake out etc. But all that said, now that it's going on 2 years since I've clubbed or SA'd, I can guarantee that I would have jumped on that offer in an instant and I'm sure we would have had a fantastic night ... errr 15 minutes of fun!

Paradise By The Dashboard Light!!!

In no order: Guns N Roses Alice Cooper Rammstein Queen w/Adam Lambert (never saw Freddie rip) KISS Ghost Iron Maiden Poison (my first show ever in 1986) Van Halen Bruce Springsteen + E street band

Good question and thread. For me, the simple pleasure of being a middle aged man but feeling desired by beautiful young women. I know it’s an act but it still feels great!

I have not for the simple reason that I am currently living in Holland and my age group (49) has not been called up yet. Likely mid June, crossing my fingers!

Thanks for the update which was appreciated. This sentence though caught my attention: "We were told by the dj and housemom to say "yes" if we got asked if we were fully vaccinated." This is why I won't be in a club until I'm fully vaccinated myself. I know even being vaccinated has some risk, but I'm expecting every dancer to tell me she's vaccinated, truth or not. And I understand that and won't blame them, c'est la vie.

Before COVID, I used to pay SA girls $200-$300 or so for an evening of companionship in non-major cities like El Paso, Columbus, Erie, Cincinnati. That went up to ~$500 in Vegas, Miami, LA, Boston. The ladies were mostly 7's, though there were a few outliers north of that as well as south. Don't go for 10's they have GPS! IMO, $200 is at the low end of the range, but let's also not call it pocket change. For 3-4 hours of "work" it's $50/hour, with no taxes + dinner at a decent place. And what else can you do in the evening to put two crisp $100 bills in your pocket? It may even be fun (90% of my dates were, or at least very well acted, so they can finetune those skills at a minimum as well).

Pussy no question. Long been a quest to have as much international variety of pussy. Think I am only at about 10 nationalities or so ... another 200 to go!

Bon Jovi .... great 80’s cock-rock band ... terrible adult contemporary or whatever their latest crap is band. Def Leppard ... amazing first 2 (maybe 3) albums, then also not much. Motley Crue as well, Poison ... pretty much any of my 80’s bands I suppose. Good thing they all had amazing first and second albums!

Can't speak for post pandemic ... but pre-pandemic I've only had extra's once (met her online pre-trip ... then at the club ... then OTC) and it cost me an arm and a leg ... don't want to rehash, but I wrote a review on it. As others have already said, odds of them "getting lucky" at a club in Vegas without a mountain of cash is slim to none. Hotel bars though are a totally different story ... any guy looking and willing to pay something reasonable will find it. Even if they're not looking but are in the casino at 2 AM having drinks or playing slots ... they will be found. Low barrier to entry at that point, just the $$$.

It’s a 100% must for me with a sugar baby. Just like a BJ, CIM is a nice extra. My wife of 20+ years has no interest in any of that anymore but I like it!

I know we all remember her as the "angry little girl" staring at Trump a few years ago, but she is 18 now so at an age where she may care about the "terrible shrinking penis" lol.

Nice story thank you. I'll turn it around as well, first time as a customer. I was scared shitless. Barely able to look at the girls in the beginning. The first time a naked girl sat on my lap and started to caress me I couldn't talk. Left feeling dirty even though nothing happened. Fast forward to first time I go VIP at an "extra" club (which I didn't know even existed at that time). She unzips me and goes down. It took me a good 20 seconds to realize what was happening and I stopped her. Threw the clothes I was wearing away at my hotel that night and said never again. The rest is history. This was 10 years ago, and like you said eloquently, this was what I do now.

Found it a few times and when you do it can be amazing for both ;-) But have found from my experience that oral g-Spot stimulation is the most fool-proof way to get her to Orgasm. YMMV.

Not at the club, but had a SA date in LA a few years ago. Had a very fun evening with her, she was beautiful, sweet and made me feel like a million dollars. Real arm-candy if you know what I mean. Googled her recently just for kicks and low and behold after a little more digging found out she has an alter-ego as a porn actress. Not super famous, but like number 200 on pornhub rankings. A very fun memory now especially when I'm watching those vids online lol, though I'm a bit upset at myself given the things I apparently "could have done" with her (but I was quite drunk that evening and severely lacking in performance, unfortunately).

In the club Me: "I'm having a lot of fun with you here, but I'd love to have some more fun at my hotel" Her: "Hmmm ... that sounds like a lot of fun. Here's my number and meet me outside 10 minutes after closing" When I see her later ITC Me: "Can't wait to see you later tonight!" Her" "Oh baby I can't wait either. Just make sure have the cash OK" 10 minutes after closing, waiting outside, parking lot emptying out, texting her Me: "Hey babes, I'm outside in the XXXX car. Lemme know when you're ready" 5 minutes later text Me: "Hey, just wondering if we're still going to have some fun with me?" 10 minutes later text Me: "Well, guess you made other plans. Have a good night, maybe meet up another time" Next day Her: "Hey babes, where were you?" Sigh .... this has happened MANY times.

It's inevitable. Iceland just opened up for tourists ... provided you have proof of vaccination. International air travel is 100% going to be requiring some kind of vaccine proof to travel by end of the year. Some countries will likely require proof as part of immigration entry requirements (certainly island countries like Australia, New Zealand and even the UK). When required, proof of vaccination will be via a phone app and likely be integrated into apps you already have. I'm sure that Apple will be at the forefront and integrate this into "apple health" or whatever they'll brand it. Within the USA, I think it'll be hit and miss. Any private company will try to make that decision no different than "no shoes, no service" and it will likely follow the red/blue divide, so more of those kinds of restrictions in LA and NY, and probably none in the middle of the country. Very interesting will be large scale events like festivals, sporting events, as well as zoo's and theme parks. The debate will keep talk radio happy for years to come. Of course, there will be numerous legal challenges to any vaccine requirements and ultimately a case will end up at the Supreme Court, and my guess is this will be a key election topic for 2024. I don't think it will be impossible to "live life" if you decide for whatever reason not to get vaccinated, but there are going to be limitations, both within the USA, but especially for any international travel. PS - I personally will get vaccinated. I'm ~50 years old and in Holland it'll be my turn in June. Having a family but playing around on the side ITC, OTC, and via sites like SA almost requires it, though I guess that's a personal decision. I understand life is not without risks, but this is one I want to minimize instead of giving up the hobby altogether. It's already been 1.5 years since I visited a club or had a SA date, so it's well overdue.

Being an 80's rocker, there's only one song that comes to mind and that is "Girls Girls Girls" by the Crue. Curious how many of these clubs are still open: Dollhouse, Tattletale, Seventh Veil, Crazy Horse, Body Shop, Marble Arch and of course Tropicana where I lost my heart ;-)

How often? All the time unfortunately. I just checked my phone for kicks and giggles and have well over a hundred blocked numbers. That was before I started using a texting app, so there's more there. Most of those are dancers/escorts/sugar babies or wannabies from that picklist. Once it's over or you want it to be over, you have to block there is usually no good other way that I have found. It's almost always due to the fact they want more money, or something else went sour. But money mostly. Many of these girls are experts at lying, pouting, crying, making up sob stories, etc. I've fallen for it way too often unfortunately.

Living in Europe, I can go on the Autobahn every once in a while. I've gone 205KM/h, which is about 127mph. Honestly, at that speed I didn't feel comfortable because any slight mistake (or a mistake by another driver) and you're toast. So I normally will only go about 160 when I'm on a section of autobahn with no speed limit (which as many may not know isn't all that much). Now does a B747 cockpit count because then I've done faster closer to 200 mph on the ground (runway).

I used to post more often (but nowhere near the well known posters), but desertscrub summed it up. Clubbing is dead for me at least until I get my COVID vaccine. I don't go to clubs just to watch the girls from a distance and throw some dollars their way. I go to try and get action, either ITC or OTC. And right now, with a family at home, I'm just not comfortable doing that. Plus I had already moved most of my spending to SA girls vs. stripclubs. I liked having a "sure thing" for a while, even though those experiences have been very hit and miss. Add to that another major factor for me, which is that travel has dried up. I haven't been on a business trip for over a year, and that was where I had most of my fun. Plus my personal "fun" trips to LA, Vegas and Miami haven't happened either. It's been over 2 years since I've been to a club, and that was a pretty good experience in El Paso. I think next year when I believe things will get "back to normal" things will pick up. I have quite a bit of disposable income ready to go when I'm comfortable to spend it again.

I miss my El Paso business trips ... This place is certainly good for high mileage, spot on. It became my go-to when the previous go-to (the Cabaret) was closed for good.

For work, mostly IHG properties. They work fine. Best hotel I ever took a girl was either the Kimpton LaPeer in LA or the Venetian in Vegas. Those were excellent.