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9 years ago
I've never been out any any dates with her (paid and non paid). Ive never helped her out with any expenses, I just give her her fee each visit. I've only gone somewhere with her in public one time and that was just to store a couple minutes down the road, she had to buy some cheap luggage for a family weekend getaway.
Her drivers license was suspended and she said she needed a ride. At the time I figured it was strictly cause her license was suspended but now that I think about it she might have been hoping I would buy her the luggage ($850). I didn't buy her the luggage though, I had just given her her fee (which she partially used in the luggage) and I had also bough her a cornhole game for her trip. She was having trouble finding one so I told her I'd get her one.
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9 years ago
I've never been out any any dates with her (paid and non paid). Ive never helped her out with any expenses, I just give her her fee each visit. I've only gone somewhere with her in public one time and that was just to store a couple minutes down the road, she had to buy some cheap luggage for a family weekend getaway.
Her drivers license was suspended and she said she needed a ride. At the time I figured it was strictly cause her license was suspended but now that I think about it she might have been hoping I would buy her the luggage ($850). I didn't buy her the luggage though, I had just given her her fee (which she partially used in the luggage) and I had also bough her a cornhole game for her trip. She was having trouble finding one so I told her I'd get her one.
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9 years ago
@gawker I forgot about the casinos, that's a good idea although it is a little farther than I'd like to drive but it might be my best option.
@JS she is very close to DS status, probably the closest I'll ever come to a DS.
I did ask her one time if I could bring over some body oil and we could massage it on each other, I even said I'd bring a shower curtain liner to put on the ground and she said no cause she thought it'd be too messy.
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9 years ago
@JS I was gonna ask why she would agree to an overnight for the same price of a couple hour regular visit at her place. I mean, if I was in her position I wouldn't do it without asking for a decent amount more. With our current arrangement she essentially gets paid $300-$400 an hour. If I didn't pay her any more for the overnight then she would take a substantial pay cut (down to like $60/hour). Granted some of that time would be sleeping but that's still a dramatic pay cut.
But you bring up a good point that she might feel like if she turns my offer down then she might lose my business so it's worth it for her long term fincial gain. Plus if I make it enjoyable for her that could help offset the pay cut.
The problem is i don't know where I'd take her other than dinner and the hotel. There's probably some bars nearby but there's not real entertainment options anywhere reasonably close.
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9 years ago
@Rech that's a good idea but she no longer dances so she'd have to come up with some other excuse.
@impala right now I pay her $800 per visit. I'm sure I overpay but its worth it to me. I had been seeing her ITC for a couple months before I saw her OTC (at her suggestion). When I saw her ITC I paid her a few hundred for an hours time in the VIP room. In the VIP I would always get a HJ and then usually either fingering her pussy or DATY. One time she gave me a brief BBBJ out of the blue but that was caused she owes me some extra VIP time. Then in a visit when I was gonna ask for FS ITC she initiated it before I could ask her. Obviously I tipped her a little more for that. I actually wasn't able to cum ITC, she asked me why I didn't and I said something like it was cause of the condom plush all the noise from the bar on the other side of the wall. The next time I was gonna come in and see her she texted me and said she got suspended for a few days and asked if I wanted to meet up somewhere else instead, so that's how our OTC started.
The first time I saw her OTC (at her place) we never discussed price or what would take place. I ended up getting BBBJ and bareback FS. I tipped her a little more than I did on our FS ITC experience since I had more time and it was OTC, from that point on I just kept giving her $800.
Like I said, I know $800 is probably a lot more than most of you pay but she's worth it to me and she's the only stripper I've met that I would pay this much to. She's incredibly sexy (I love the way she makes eye contact with me when she's giving me a BJ), She gives a good GFE (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, cuddles, doesn't rush me, etc). Plus she's been very reliable and never cancelled any of our plans.
Plus I honestly don't think she'd do this for less money. She seems to be type of dancer that if you offered X amount of dollars for some type of extra she would turn you down. But if you let her choose to offer the extras and she knows she will get a good tip then she is open to it (makes her feel like less of a prostitute).
Plus she always used to mention how slutty some of the other dancers at the club were. She wouldn't say how much they did things for but she would say some of the dancers would fuck any guy for a few bucks.
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9 years ago
It wouldnt necessarily need to be a long evening. Maybe meet for dinner (which I would pay for) around 7 pm then head back to the hotel after for some drinks.
I would also offer to pay for the sitter if necessary but I just don't know if she would go for this. I'm not sure if she would be ok leaving her kids overnight with a sitter. Granted she used to work till 1:30 am so maybe it wouldn't be an issue but she's also had to change sitters a couple times.
Ideally she would have one of her sisters or mom watch her kids but she might find it awkward to ask them to watch her kids all night while she goes out but maybe she could just tell them she needs a night away from her kids to relax.
As far as $600 prices that have been suggested that definitely wouldn't be enough. I'll be the first to admit that I pay quite a bit more than I should for our regular OTC sessions so that's why I was looking back for how much more (percentage) people pay for overnight vs just a couple hours.
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9 years ago
That all makes sense, most of the time when I say no thanks the dancer usually asks me if they can sit first. So makes sense that at the least I should say hi before trying to get rid of her.
@LDK no there weren't two LDQ's. I wanted nothing to do with the dancer I was trying to get rid of.
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9 years ago
I would but only so I could have some time with the brunette. The blonde doesn't do anything for me but I would tolerate her so I could have the brunette (although I don't like the brunette's tattoo.
Anyone heck out the rest of that page? The rest of the pics are filled with smoke shows.
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9 years ago
In no particular order:
1. Madison Ivy
2. Jaclyn Case
3. Keisha Grey
4. Madelynne Monroe
5. Veronica Vain
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9 years ago
Too bad they blurred her nipples out when she was wearing the wet white t shirt.
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9 years ago
@RickDugan that's a valid point, I would never fuck a stripper or escort bareback early on in our P4P relationship. In the case of my ATF who is the only stripper I've fucked bareback I had to wait three months before I could even fuck her, so she's not the type of stripper that just fucks anyone. That being said I'm sure she fucks other customers so there is definitely Italy still a risk. So that's why I only fucked her bareback a couple times and have used a condom ever since.
I don't think that most guys think that their ATF is less likely to have STD's, I think it's just since their ATF they are willing to take a bigger risk then they would with a regular stripper.
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9 years ago
I always used to hate condoms, they just took away a lot of sensation and made it a lot harder to cum.
I've been using Lifesyle Ultra Sensative condoms with my ATF and I don't know of ice just gotten more used to wearing condoms or what but I swear once I start fucking her I forget that I'm wearing a condom. They are pretty thin but are still durable. I'm sure it doesn't feel as good as bareback (I have fucked her bareback a few times) but now that I'm used to it I don't mind wearing one, especially since it almost eliminates STD's/pregnancy. I normally last a while when I have sex, especially wearing a condom. But lately with the ATF I'm ready to burst after only a couple minutes when I'm wearing the condom. She's had 3 kids so it's not like she's got a tight young pussy but I guess she's just that skilled.
That said, the psychological part of me hates wearing a condom. I kind of agree with JS, if you wear a condom can you really say you fucked her? Ive always felt like if a girl doesn't make you cum then you haven't really fucked her, so I guess you could say the same thing if you don't fuck her bareback and cum inside of her. It's just kind of what makes sex complete.
JS, just curious, your STD fears seem to be how the average PL feels but aren't you at all worried about pregnancy or have you been snipped? That's a big reason to not fuck a stripper bareback, if they are on the pill can you really trust them to take it at the same time everyday?
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9 years ago
Nothing like meeting a beautiful new stripper in skimpy clothes knowing that in a few minutes she will be completely naked and grinding on you while you play with her tits.
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9 years ago
Ive had a lot of favorite dancers over the last couple years, most of them I didn't fuck but I either really enjoyed groping them during lap dances or got HJ's from them in the VIP. Most of them I only saw for a few months before they quit or went to another club. I do miss those dancers but I don't really miss their company. Im just more sad that I can't get dances from them anymore but they are somewhat easy to replace.
There's one that become one of my top favorites and o fucked her several times ITC. She had a drug problem she kept hidden and kept asking me to wire her the money for my next visit (at a discounted rate) and would give me FS for free. So basically she kept offering to take 25% off if I gave her the money a couple days in advance. I believed she was gonna follow through with the full service but when I went to wire the money I cancelled it cause western union kept asking if I was buying something from her and when I told them no I was just loaning it to her they said she had received a lot of loans in the past. So I ended things with her and didn't see her for a couple months. Since she had given me her real name I looked her up on Facebook (I didn't friend her or message her) and saw a few weeks later she was pregnant. I ended up running now into her at the club a few weeks later and her tits had grown a cup size and firmed up (she said she had thought she was pregnant but ended up not being pregnant but she is still pregnant on her Facebook page). Her tits were phenomenal but she obviously quit shortly after that since she was pregnant. I do miss her a little.
There was a dancer that I really liked (got my first two way contact lap dances from her and she was the first to make me LDK). I had seen her regularly for a year ITC (she doesn't do extras though but was a spinner with just about perfect B cup tits). Anyway after she gave me my first LDK I never saw her again for over a year so I assumed she quit. For a while I kept hoping I run in to her at the club but never did. A couple weeks ago though she was back, it's definitely nice when you did have a favorite dancer that you thought you'd never see again and give up hope that she'll return only to get surprised when she comes back.
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9 years ago
I've only done OTC with my ATF and every single time it's been at her apartment while her kids are at school. And every time it's been on her couch.
I can understand that she probably wouldn't want to do the deed in her bed (she might consider it a little too personal or may not want someone she doesn't really know in her room and she also may not want a guy she's not attracted to in her bed). But at the same time at least with a bed you can wash the sheets.
Seems like it's would feel weird to have family and friends over sitting on your couch where she just fucked a guy for money a few hours earlier. My bare ass has been on that couch more than I can count, and several times after we fucked she didn't have a towel nearby so I'm sure some dripped out onto the couch (and I have cum inside her a couple times too, some of that definitely spilled).
I would hate to see what would show up on that couch with a black light. But then again I'm sure he majority of the population has fucked all over their living room furniture. Just seems different when it's with a PL and her boyfriend.
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9 years ago
I think my only memory that might top that (aside from getting surprise extras) was taking two dancers into VIP at the same time. I only got HJ's from them but it was well worth it just to do it once. One of them looked Brazilian with a great ass and big DD fake tits. Her friend was A blonde (but not foreign at all) with tits that looked and felt the same as her friend's, must have been done by the same surgeon.
They had good chemistry between them (they always danced on stage together, they were the only dancers that danced together) and kissed each other and played with each other a little but I received most of the attention. It was pretty obvious they probably fooled around together OTC.
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9 years ago
@JS I don't go to the club after visiting my ATF specifically looking for sex.
After I'm done seeing my ATF I usually have some time to kill, so I stop by the club. I'm not going to the club looking for sex (or extras) necessarily unless it's an opportunity I just can't pass up. I go just to look at naked chicks, get a lap dance or two and maybe try out a new dancer.
It's actually a good time to go (after having g had an orgasm without the last hour or two), the little head isn't quite as pushy. It's kind of like going grocery shopping, if you go grocery shopping on an empty stomach you end up buying a lot of food (and junk food) because everything looks good, but if you go when you are full you tend to make better choices.
That being said, I did have FS ITC a couple hours after I visited me ATF one time. And a couple other times I've gon to the VIP for a handjob or titty fuck on the same day. And I LDK'd once too after seeing my ATF.
I think my favorite sloppy seconds though happened last year in the club. I got some dances from one of my favorites and she made me LDK. The good thing with boxers and jeans is they do a pretty good job of absorbing fluids, so it doesn't make much of a mess. So after I LDK'd I sat down to finish my beer. While I was drinking one of my other favorites (I have many) sat down about ten minutes after I had LDK'd. Instead of giving. Lap dances she basically sits on your lap and basically lets you do whatever you want to her and then she gives a discreet HJ (taking my dick out but hiding it) in the lap dance booth. The fact that she's on top of me giving me a HJ while I can see pretty much the entire club and the entire club could see me if the lighting wasn't so dark is a pretty good turn on so she made me cum pretty quickly.
So in the spans of 30 minutes dancer A made me cum via LDKing and dancer B made me cum via a HJ.
Everything was pretty dry already when I got the HJ but I hadn't cleaned up at all in between. I don't know if she knew that I had just previously cum (and I don't think she'd care cause this girl was slutiest girl at the club) but I'm pretty sure dancer A saw me go into the lap dance area with dancer B. I wonder dancer A ever told dancer B that she had made me cum before I went to the back with dancer B. Either way dancer A and B didn't care cause their level of service never dropped off after that.
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9 years ago
I'd definitely take Kate Upton over Paula Patton every time. That being said, I don't find either of their faces to be anything great. While Kate Upton does have an attractive face, I wouldn't consider it anything higher than a 7 or 8. (But then again I normally prefer brunette a over blondes). But Kate Upton definitely has great body. I'm sure some guys might consider her a little too big but I'd rather have that than a girl that's too skinny.
While we are on the subject of everyone having different tastes, I always thought Jennifer Lopez was attractive but I swear think she's gotten even sexier as she's aged. I swear she looks better the older she gets, and her tits even look trike they've gotten bigger. I'm sure makeup covers up a lot on her but honestly pretty much all actresses look completely different without it.
And put me in the same boat as RockStar, I still find my ATF way sexier than the majority of dancers (and celebrities). I'm sure a lot of it has to do with spending time with her and enjoying her services.
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9 years ago
Forgot to mention...apparently all the girls over on StripperWeb are completely grossed out by this and would never allow a customer to suck their tits.
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9 years ago
I think most dancers don't care but it probably depends what type of club you are in. Obviously they don't want you to LDK in the first few songs so as long as you but several they shouldn't care. You are mug more likely to be a repeat customer if she makes you LDK.
If the dancer does a lot of grinding, especially staying in the same position and same rhythm that's a good sign that she's trying to make you cum. If she constantly shifts it could mean that she either doesn't want you to cum or is just trying to delay it to get you to buy more dances.
I've had one dancer that started grinding on me and asking me if I liked it harder or softer. This was before I had ever LDK'd so I didn't pick up the que that she wanted me to come. Over later visits she got me to LDK on multiple visits. On my last visit after I came she asked if it was "mission complete".
I have yet to meet a dancer that had a bad reaction or refused dances from me due to me LDKing.
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9 years ago
I'm either extremely good at reading whether or not a dancer allows titty sucking or else I've just been really lucky. I would I've sucked the nipples of about half the dancers I've gotten dances from.
A few of them told me to suck their nipples (even on my very first dance with them), a few of them made it pretty obvious they allowed titty sucking by continuously rubbing their nipple between my lips, and the rest I initiated on my own. I did ask a couple if I could suck their nipples, only two told me no.
The majority of the dancers I could just tell they would allow it because they just gave off that vibe. So I would just kind of kiss their breasts and then work my way towards their nipples. None of them stopped me. Some of these dancers were on the first or second dance, others were after a couple visits.
I find its a similar approach to trying to see if you can rub a dancers pussy or finger her. You just kind of gradually move your hand closer and closer and see if she stops you.
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9 years ago
For me grinding and two way contact is a must. as long as I can squeeze her tits and ass I'm good (and I have yet to be disappointed). If the dancer allows me to suck her nipples or finger her that's a nice bonus but not a must. If she is one of my favorites then kissing would also be a huge bonus but I've only had a couple that did that. It's also a bonus when they encourage me to squeeze their tits (by putting their hands over mine as I squeeze).
Other than that I like a lot of eye contact, I find it very sexy when they are girding on me with their back to me as o reach around to squeeze their tits while they look over their shoulder and make eye contact.
Other than that it doesn't matter to me how I cum, LDK's are definitely the cheapest but not every dancer can make me LDK.
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9 years ago
If I knew in advance that she doesn't turn me on then no, I wouldn't get any dances from her.
That being said, I have gotten dances from a few different girls before and didn't realize until the dance started that she didn't turn me on at all.
One time the dancer didn't have a great face (it was ok) but I really liked her body. She smelled terrible though and I could t wait for the first dance to be over.
Another time an attractive dancer asked if I wanted a dance. I hadn't seen her on stage yet and the clothes she was wearing kind of hid the fact that she pretty much had a flat chest. The first dance started and I was disappointed that she was an A cup and I couldn't wait for it to end. She was attractive but girls that are an A cup just don't do anything for me and I avoid them. I need at least a handful (large B cup or bigger).
Nothing worse then realizing less than a minute into the dance that you aren't into the girl and the song can't end soon enough.
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9 years ago
@JS those are definitely fake tits (there are scars under each of her tits). I don't mind fake tits so that isn't a turnoff for me but I can see why some guys don't like them.
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9 years ago
We need more details before telling you what we would do.
How well do you know this dancer?
How many times have you seen her in the club?
What have you done with her in the club?
What arrangements did you make with her?