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9 years ago
Anon, you are gorgeous, thanks for posting more pics! You've got a perfect body.
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9 years ago
@Dancer, I agree. I've never seen an escort off or prostitute, But like you said I imagine most of them would want payment upfront.
I was referring to ITC. I've only paid up front once or twice. Every other time we never discussed specific acts that would take place or how much it would cost but we both understood what was gonna happen. This has happened with multiple girls at the club, even the first time I've gone to the VIP room with them. It's just kind of a silent agreement that she can do whatever she wants (HJ, BJ, or FS) and I will tip accordingly.
This might seem like a way for me to get ripped off (she could easily demand more money than what I give her) but I've Haven't been burned yet, quite the opposite actually. There was one dancer that I went to the VIP room with (I had gotten lap dances from her a few times but hadn't gone to the VIP her before). Anyway she was a MILF, mid 30's, blonde with blue eyes, great soft ass, nice squishy B cup tits with pierced nipples, and a couple tattoos. We went back and I figured I would get a HJ and possibly titty fuck her. Next thing I know she's giving me a BBBJ. After a few minutes I ask her where she wants me to cum and she says I can cum whoever I want. I ask if I can cum in her mouth and she agrees. I can't remember if she spit or swallowed but it doesn't matter.
She never asked for anything above the standard fee for the 15 minutes. Obviously I tipped her well but it was still cheap.
I also saw her another time at the club and she asked if I wanted to go to VIP with her. She said the dancers were allowed to provide a discount to one customer once a day for the VIP
room and I could get a 30 minute session for cost of 15 minutes. I didn't take her up on the offer (I was waiting for a different dancer) but I don't think it was a "special" as much as her being desperate for money. She did ask the bartender though who confirmed she was allowed to do that.
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9 years ago
This once again shows why you should never pay in advance and whenever possible avoid saying things like "how much for a BJ?".
Granted I've stuck to strip clubs and my ATF OTC and never ventured into escorts or street walkers. But I still never pay in advance and avoid asking what I can buy. The girls at the club I frequent have a pretty good understanding that if they give extras a nice tip will follow. Granted it probably wouldn't hold up in a court of law, but we have plausible deniability. She's choosing to give a BJ, FS or whatever without any mention of money. And I'm tipping her cause I know she needs to feed her kids (yeah right, like that's really what the money is being. Used for).
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9 years ago
@aaron it's not so much that I overpaid, it's that she made me think O was going to get sex for $400, but then she acted like that wasn't included and wanted additional money. I realize that is a very common tactic that strippers use, I just though she wouldn't try to pull that on one her her regulars that she sees OTC.
I have gotten FS ITC from other dancers for substantially less than $400. But like you said, some dancers will only it of the price is high enough.
@Papi when she first asked me if I wanted to go to the VIP I told her no because I was planning on coming to see her in a week. After I got a couple dances I changed my mind and I told her I would go to the VIP room with her but I couldn't pay her the usual amount. She asked how much I would have her and my initial offer was too low, so then she counter with $400.
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9 years ago
@rickstar I didn't expect her to give me more time than I paid for, I just didn't expect to pay half of what I pay for two hours OTC (i paid her well above what the standard 15 minute VIP fee was).
@Aaron I'm hesitant to say how much I pay because I know it is way too much and I'm gonna come off extremely PLish. But keep in mind this was my ATF and the only one I paid this much to.
The club I go to charges $70 for every 15 minutes in the VIP room plus a $100 to the dancer for every 15 minutes. Some of the dancers will give a HJ or BBBJ for the $100 and ask for a tip after. Some are more upfront and will negotiate a price on top of the $100 for anything else. My ATF agree on $400 (plus the $70 to the club) for 15 minutes. Like I said, she pretty much said it would include sex (mentioning the condom, I couldn't tell anyone, no one will be watching, etc). Once I asked for the sex in the VIP room she said it would cost more. I told her I thought that was included in the $400 and she said no. She agreed on it for another $60.
OTC I pay her $800. I know this is an insane amount but it is GFE with kissing, DATY, BBBJ and usually includes multiple rounds. That's why I figured $200 for 15 minutes of just sex ITC was still a great deal for her.
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9 years ago
Well said, and I agree with that. Both are obviously bad but just wondered if anyone considered one worse than the other.
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9 years ago
Have any of you guys ever gone to a brothel in Las Vegas? I'm just curious how the experience compares to FS in a strip club. On one hand I would think it would be better cause you have your own room (not crammed in a small champagne room) and neither you or the girl would have to worry about LE. You're also probably less likely to get ripped off, it would be easier to openly talk about what specifically you want as well.
On the other hand, unless you go regularly you aren't going to get to know the girl, so it probably feels more mechanical. I would imagine none of them let you kiss them, no DATY, certainly no BBBJ, and some may not even let you suck on their tits.
Has anyone ever gone to one of these? How was your experience compared to FS in a strip club? How did the girls look compared to strippers?
For me OTC with a stripper is the best. I wouldn't go out of my way to go to one of these brothels but just wondered what they are like in case I ever was in the area and had the opportunity.
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9 years ago
First sexual encounter I was a little bit older than the average person. I was on a second date with a girl (somewhat attractive) and we were making out on my couch. After about 15 minutes I was suckin. On her tits and she was running her hand along my stomach, slowly working her way farther down. She got closer and closer and eventually reached in and started rubbing my dick. Before too Lon she asked if I wanted a BJ, of course I did.
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9 years ago
Definitely the spandex pants. As sexy as a nude woman is, like the others have said it can be even sexier when you have to use your imagination. If you see a woman makes you might see some flaw you don't like, but if it's covered than for all you know it is perfect. As much as I love a naked woman on top of me grinding away, I would love to have a women in spandex grinding against my dick.
Other outfits I find very sexy: mesh dresses, see through lingerie, booty shorts, and very short skirts.
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9 years ago
I once got some lap dances from a dancer that kind of looked like Mila Kunis. After she got done on stage she came over and sat next to me (completely nude) and started talking with me. She asked if I remembered That 70's show and asked if I think she looked like the brunette (Mila Kunis) from the show, I agreed there was a decent resemblance.
Then she proceeded to try and see if the bouncer at the door agreed except he never had seen that 70's show and he didn't know who Mila Kunis was. It was pretty entertaining watching this stripper try to get this guy to know who Mila Kunis was. She was either really drunk or high. I felt like interjecting and asking if the guy ever saw Ted but I didn't.
BTW, this was probably the drunked or highest stripper I've encountered. When she was on stage Ushers song I Don't Mind came on. When it got to the line "If you dance on a pole, that don't make you a hoe" she would sing along loudly. As we were walking to the lap dance booth she fell and somehow broke her shoe. Despite that she gave a phenomenal lap dance. She had just about perfect natural B cup tits with great nipples. I regretted joy going to the VIP room with her instead. I hoped to see her again but didn't see her till about six months later. At that time she had a rather large gut and j stead of being a very happy/energetic drunk she was a very slow moving depressed looking dancer. Her tits were still great but she must have been high on heroine or something.
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9 years ago
Rachel Roxxx is definitely one of my favorites.
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9 years ago
@JS, looks like your taking the end of your relationship with your DS pretty rough. You seem to be reminiscing about her a lot, I'm sure it's easier said than done but you need to let her go and move on to your #2 DS. I haven't met my DS yet so I can't relate to what it's like when it ends, but just think for a minute: You met your #2 DS almost right after it ended with your first DS. One door closes but another win opens. If I were you I would focus on the #2 and forget about the #1.
Just remember, you said she is pretty much a completely different person now and acts totally different ITC. Even if she agrees to see you again the DS that you know is no more.
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9 years ago
@Gawker, after thinking about your ATF some more I would bump her up to a 9. When I first saw her she did have a gorgeous face and a great body, hot enough that I thought she was a 10. I was a little disappointed with her tits though so I think that left a slightly bad impression with me. They looked good but they just weren't that fun to play with.
BTW, I believe your stories about her, but after seeing her and briefly talking to her she definitely didn't strike me as the type that would have a drug problem and caused all those problems for you.
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9 years ago
Meh...just goes to show that one man's DS is another man's 7, and vice versa.
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9 years ago
Yes, I think there has to be some type of life somewhere else in the universe. The universe is endless, so there has to be at least some type of bacteria that's exists somewhere, technically that is life.
That being said, I still think there would be some type of life form somewhere in a more traditional sense (something that moves). It may not be smart but it has to exist somewhere. Scientists seem to want to focus on planets that are the same distance from the sun that earth is, but whose to say there can't be a life form that exists that doesn't breathe oxygen or doesn't need water? Yes those are the necessary requirements for life on earth but that doesn't mean life can't exist without it somewhere else.
Let's not forget, people used to be positive the earth was flat, who did that turn out?
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9 years ago
@JS good point. If the average PL only meets one DS in his lifetime then for every PL that doesn't meet a DS means that some other PL meets 2 DS's.
I guess I'm just saying you should hold off on calling her a DS until you have met her OTC. There are lots of dancers that look like a DS and might even meet OTC, but that doesn't mean it will be a DS experience (she may let you fuck her but might not let you DFK or DATY, etc).
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9 years ago
As far as looks my DS would be a combination of 3-4 of my favorite dancers. She would be average height/weight with a good ass (not too big though) and either natural C or nicely done fake D cup tits. Her aerolas would be brown and near perfect circles. She would have brown hair down a little past her shoulders with brown eyes and tan skin.
She would have a pierced naval, some type of star tattoos around her hip/abdomen and a small tattoo on an ass cheek.
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9 years ago
No disrespect JS, but I thought you always said a DS is basically a once in a lifetime experience? How is it possible to have met two different dream strippers?
Sounds like this second dancer is just a 9.5 for right now. If she ends up seeing you OTC and it's even better than your first DS then doesn't that make your first DS not a DS?
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9 years ago
I wasn't seeking extras. When I first went to the club my intentions were only to get a few lap dances and play with a couple different dancers tits (I had seen that the club I was going to allowed full two way contact). I did not realize at the time that is was also an extras club.
The first time I went I got a few lap dances. The second girl start playing with my dick through my pants. At one point I thought she was going to take it out and I stopped her (she wasn't that hot and at that time I didn't wanna hear on my wife). Later that night I got some dances from a dancer that became my ATF. After a few dances we went to the VIP, I still didn't know this was an extras club (I I wouldn't have believed that there were clubs anywhere that would allow extras). I just figured I might get a hotter lap dance in the VIO room. A few minutes into it and she took my dick out and gave me a handjob. I felt guilty but eventually I wanted more and more.
I started getting. Hand jobs and titty fucking a few different dancers while also regular seeing my ATF inside the club. My ATF started allowing more and more (DATY, a very brief BBBJ and DFK on one visit). At that point my sex life with my wife had dried up even more than it already was and I decided I wanted to try and have sex with my ATF.
On my next visit before I could even ask if I could fuck her she asked if I had a condom and she gave me FS ITC. I remember thinking I was was putting my condom on that I was at the point of no return. Even though all the other stuff I had done was cheating, this was a whole mother level of cheating. I figured I would fuck her once and then be done comic to the clubs.
The next week she wasn't allowed to work for a few days so she suggested we meet at her place. Ever since then I've been seeing her ITC. Every time I think I am ready to move on she sucks me right back in.
Since the first time I had sex ITC with the ATF I started seeking extras in the club beyond hand jobs. I've gotten a BBBJCIM and fucked tree other dancers ITC. One of them pretty much initiated it, when I asked her how much she charged for VIP she gave her price but said it was all inclusive and said she had everything we needed. A different dancer offered me a covered BJ on our first VIP, I titty fucked her instead and then on the next visit I offered more money and asked what it would get me and she said she would fuck me.
A third dancer have me HJ's in the lap dance booth. She mentioned several times that we should go to the VIP. She offered the highest mileage lap dances (she basically sits on my lap and let's me do whatever I want to her while she jerks me off) so I figured sex would be a five in the VIP. She started giving me a BJ and at one point I though she was about to fuck me bareback. I wanted to use a co Dom so I told her I had a condom and asked if we could have sex. She said yes as long as I gave her a tip. The sex was the worst of the ; strippers I've banged. She didn't let me go in that deep and I don't even think I came. She was very petite and I am bigger than average so maybe that's why.
Every time I get sick of the ATF I see other dancers and I appreciate the ATF that might more. I've fucked her bareback a few times (but I use a condom now) came inside her, fucked her in the ass (she told me too, that was nothing that excites me) DFK, BBBJ, cuddling, wearing clothes that I buy her, sending me pics (although I wish she would send me a few more).
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9 years ago
@Gawker, yes I gave her a decent tip. She was very nice and did give a good dance so she deserved a tip. Also is that her in your pic? The tits in your pic look a lot like hers.
At first I thought she was a pretty heavy extras girl. She wasn't shy about grabbing my dick over my pants and at one point I though she was gonna let me DATY but after she didn't let me suck her tits she is more than likely just a high mileage dancer, although a HJ or BJ could have been a possibility.
@jackslash The 7 or 8 I would give her was based on face and body combined. If it was just her face she would probably be an 8 or 9. She was hot but exceptionally hot.
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9 years ago
Oh yeah and the dancer with the growing tits also told me she got a job at a Walmart and even told me which one. Does she want me to come see her at work or something? Now I'm paranoid to go there with my wife on the off chance she is working and is our cashier. I don't think she would say anything but you never know.
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9 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I've given it some more though, I actually only prefer soft/squishy tits for a B or C cup, any tits bigger than that and I like firm better. To me D cup and above that are soft always tend to be saggy and don't look as good.
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9 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I like both but I prefer soft (squishy) over firm. Firm almost always look better but there's not as much you can do with them. Firm aren't as fun to squeeze and you can't really cup them. I enjoy titty fucking and titty fucking firm tits isn't that great, but titty fucking soft tits feels amazing. I love having a dancer grinding on me with her back towards me while I reach around and squeeze/cup her nice soft/squishy tits.
My ATF has incredibly firm tits (large B cup). They don't sag at all which is amazing considering she's had kids and is in her thirties (and yes they are 100% real, she also doesn't have a stretch mark on her gorgeous body). She pretty much tells me I can squeeze her tits as hard as I want, sometimes with softer tits I feel like I might be squeezing too hard.
Now when I see hot civvies l like to wonder whether they have form or soft tits. From my experience it seems like the girls that are more athletic have the firm tits while non athletic tend to be squishy tits.
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9 years ago
$20 at my local club (full nude with full two-way contact) and alcohol is also serves at this club.
The VIP room on the other hand is rather expensive.
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9 years ago
It's not really something you would see strippers wearing in a strip club, but I love the look of yoga pants (or better yet spandex pants) on a girl with a nice ass.
Booty shorts are always sexy in the club.