Bareback

I agree !! Hush up, shadowcat !! LMAO

What's the matter VM? Is there something in your past that you are embarrassed by? :)

I haven't used a condom since I was a teenager. I admit that I was probably lucky considering all of the prostitutes I did in Japan, Mexico and elsewhere but now a condom is just a boner killer. I am pretty selective in who I will do FS with so most of my sex consists of BBBJs.

I always used to hate condoms, they just took away a lot of sensation and made it a lot harder to cum.

I've been using Lifesyle Ultra Sensative condoms with my ATF and I don't know of ice just gotten more used to wearing condoms or what but I swear once I start fucking her I forget that I'm wearing a condom. They are pretty thin but are still durable. I'm sure it doesn't feel as good as bareback (I have fucked her bareback a few times) but now that I'm used to it I don't mind wearing one, especially since it almost eliminates STD's/pregnancy. I normally last a while when I have sex, especially wearing a condom. But lately with the ATF I'm ready to burst after only a couple minutes when I'm wearing the condom. She's had 3 kids so it's not like she's got a tight young pussy but I guess she's just that skilled.

That said, the psychological part of me hates wearing a condom. I kind of agree with JS, if you wear a condom can you really say you fucked her? Ive always felt like if a girl doesn't make you cum then you haven't really fucked her, so I guess you could say the same thing if you don't fuck her bareback and cum inside of her. It's just kind of what makes sex complete.

JS, just curious, your STD fears seem to be how the average PL feels but aren't you at all worried about pregnancy or have you been snipped? That's a big reason to not fuck a stripper bareback, if they are on the pill can you really trust them to take it at the same time everyday?

What makes any guy on here believe that his ATF is any safer to fuck bareback than anyone else? Even if you go so far as to get her tested (and how many guys even do that?) and she is negative for xyz at one point in time, you really have no idea who else she is fucking or what she might pick up along the way.

@RickDugan that's a valid point, I would never fuck a stripper or escort bareback early on in our P4P relationship. In the case of my ATF who is the only stripper I've fucked bareback I had to wait three months before I could even fuck her, so she's not the type of stripper that just fucks anyone. That being said I'm sure she fucks other customers so there is definitely Italy still a risk. So that's why I only fucked her bareback a couple times and have used a condom ever since.

I don't think that most guys think that their ATF is less likely to have STD's, I think it's just since their ATF they are willing to take a bigger risk then they would with a regular stripper.

"Even if you go so far as to get her tested (and how many guys even do that?) and she is negative for xyz at one point in time, you really have no idea who else she is fucking or what she might pick up along the way."

I'm one of those who went in for testing with my SB. If you're talking about HIV, this is the way I look at it:

If you have unprotected vaginal sex with someone known to have HIV, the risk per encounter is something like 5 in 10000. That's already a small number

However if your partner is known to be free of HIV at some point in time and, if she willfully goes out and fucks someone known to have HIV, the odds of her getting HIV is small to begin with and your risk becomes astronomically small. You are probably more likely to die of West Nile Virus by a mosquito bite on the way home from the club.

Now something like chlamydia is far more contagious, but it's easily treated with antibiotics.

I always assume I am not that special and if she is fucking me she is fucking someone else, perhaps a customer, perhaps a SO. As much as I'd like to go bareback, it isn't worth it

Are you sure of those stats? If they are correct it seems that it would be statistically impossible for it to have spread as it did back in the 80s and across Africa

I only fuck bb these days, so I'm also pretty selective. I don't fuck high volume sex workers any more. I've never had an STD and yes, I get tested when I'm sexually active with new partners.

I am snipped. If I weren't then I wouldn't risk pregnancy. You cannot trust a stripper to take a pill.

Bareback always feels better but I'm cautious and will wear a condom until I know it's safe to go bareback. A condom is mandatory with a sex provider imo but if someone is confident their partner is clean go for it.

Flagooner, it is not politically correct to say this, but the reality is that it is still, and has always been, transmitted predominantly through anal sex between gay men. When women get it, it is overwhelmingly from bisexual men who became infected by having sex with another man.

Back in the 80s and 90s, about 25% of new infections occurred with shared needles of drug users, but those stats have come down a lot because of needle exchange and other programs.

Yet another reason not to be fucking p4p girls in the ass (pointing back to another thread, lol), which can be deadly if your partner has HIV. Transmission of HIV from female to male through vaginal sex is, while not impossible, extremely unlikely by all statistical reports.

I always fucked my ATF bareback for all the reasons listed above. We both did std testing about every 6 months and never had a problem. I knew I was playing with fire though cuz I knew she had fucked crack dealers, random customers, etc. There was one guy who shed known since HS who she turned to whenever her BF was in jail or otherwise unavailable and she loved his big (10") Dick. Well he told her he tested HIV positive and she then tried to figure out how long had it been since they fucked. To her credit, she told me right up front and it's now been almost 2 years and neither of us has tested positive. About 10 years ago I caught a bug from an escort in Nashville and that scared me, but antibiotics took care of the problem. I haven't had testing for my potency, but figure at age 70 most of my swimmers can't do too much damage so I don't worry about fatherhood. My CF insists on me wearing a rubber so I do, but it's a factor. She usually will take off the condom and finish me with a BBBJCIM which I don't complain about.

@rick.

Thanks for the follow up. No need for political correctness with me. I honestly did not know of the stats and wasn't thinking of the drug use angle. It still surprises me that the risk with vaginal sex is so low, but I'm not saying it isn't true. I have been wrong once before.

@gawker: Yes, fucking a girl who had a b/f in jail is decidedly more risky than me fucking my g/f or my past low volume dancers.

It's been mentioned above - but my thinking is similar. I don't consider myself special - so any p4p providers I am with - I use a condom. I understand the risk of hiv isn't huge - but there seem to be numerous other stds around - and some don't go away with medicine.

If you fuck a girl using a condom - I consider it fucking. If you fuck a girl with a condom and cum - you definitely fucked her!

And if you fuck a girl without a condom, you may have fucked yourself. But it might be the risk worth taking.

Obviously bareback feels better than having a condom on. I enjoy bareback, but I don't want any diseases, and I don't want any kids right now. So if I'm fucking a girl bareback, it's likely she is my girlfriend, and she'll be on birth control pills.

I've never fucked a stripper, but if I did I certainly wouldn't do it bareback.

You know what I think about it, John.:)

Not counting professional sex workers, when I tell women I'm snipped, they all say that condoms aren't necessary, so it's not just men who prefer BB. In fact, I've never fucked a civvi with a condom, and we DO talk about it beforehand.

I generally wear condoms, I much prefer BB but the more I think about it LIFE itself is a terminal sexually transmitted condition. It depends on what you have to live for at the end of the day and risk taking is often part of our hobby,

I can respect those who want to play but put their PRIMARY partner first. As for me, risk management is a good thing but I won't say that I've never made bad decisions especially when alcohol is involved. In the end, I am responsible for any momentary lapses of reason, nobody else. You have to be able to look at yourself when you shave in the morning and accept accountability for your actions- so far nothing life threatening. Actually I've got more to worry about from day to day living (Diabetes, cardiovascular disease etc) then from my sex life, thank you.

TL;DR If you're big enough try a magnum, because it's too dangerous to go bareback. I'd always used condoms until one day, about 13 years ago, I couldn't finish because the condom was literally strangling my member. I tried everything: Sheikhs, Trojans, lifestyles, ultra sheer, ribbed for me, lubes. Nothing helped me get last the too tight sensation to climax. One day, as a last result, I tried Trojan Magnums. I don't believe for a moment that I'm hung like a porn star, but from girth perspective it was literally just right. Not too tight, nor so loose that it ever slipped off. Because of HIV, herpes, and the news strains of superbugs (yes, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis all have their own antibiotic resistant variants now), it is impossible to even think about having sex without a rubber unless you are in a Monogamous relationship and mutually agree to be tested.

I use Crown condoms and they are the next best thing to bareback. Nice sensation and I shoot multiple loads. Part of it may just be how incredibly attracted to my girlfriend I am but they are still the best condom I have ever used by far and I strongly recommend. Eventually though I hope to get serious enough with my girlfriend that we can go bareback as it would feel even better and become even more intimate lovemaking.

I can barely keep a boner with a condom on anymore. She has to be really into it, or be very convincing, to keep my interest.

My ATF and I stopped using condom about six months in, and the MILF is considering it, but since she doesn't want cum inside her for her husband to detect, I probably won't. She's convincing enough to keep me going. :)

Squawk! Listen to rickdugan's words of wisdom. He is clearly the smartest hairless ape on this site. But that is to be expected. He's a rick after all. That's the ticket!

John Smith, do you realize that I've put my beak in your dream stripper's hoo-ha? She's also sucked on my cloaca until she got a mouthful of my vulture jizz. Now we vultures are rather disease resistant. We eat rotting meat after all. But your weak hairless ape constitution is going to result in you getting the vulture clap if you don't wrap that rascal.

Words of wisdom because I care. That's the ticket! Squawk!

^^^^^^ We really were hurting without him!

SJG

Moussorgski/Asselin - Tableaux d'une Exposition - Organ arrangement youtube.com l'Oratoire Saint-Joseph du Mont-Royal, Montréal.

I love it when a white stripper lowers herself on my dick. She slowly loosens up. Then the flood gates open.

Another blast from the past !!

shadowcat knows me well, I'm not at all embarassed by fucking Gwen in front of everyone. It was easy to do, and great fun.

This is the only topic in history that I agree with @Smith: sex with a condom is not sex.

So -- One BB partner at a time (not six, like @Smith) -- Both tested -- Understand the risks in gory mathematical detail -- Trust your partner.

Until drug-resistant STDs come to our homeland, that's how I look at it. Probably less risk than eating cheeseburgers or driving a motorcycle.

Hoes prefer bbfs because it is less work. Just pull the g string to the side. She will have a guy nutting in 2-3 songs max.

If I'm going "bareback" with someone they're gonna be my only current sexual partner and I trust them. Herpes and HPV are viruses without cures... they are quite common these days. No thank you.

^Yeah, I don't even like to bareback with slutty civvy girls.

Although the HPV virus doesn't have a "cure" it does clear for most people eventually.

Lions never wear condoms. Our penile spines would tear up any condom. Just like like they tear up female hairless ape vaginas.

Of course all the real sex freak female hairless apes love the BSLC. Remember, once you go lion you never stop cryin'...in a good way.

ROAR!

I swore to myself that I'd stop discussing STDs in an anonymous forum.

Just one last point: just about everyone is carrying HPV, and only like 2 out 100 strains can cause cancer. I personally love going down on my partner and HPV throat cancer is arguably more horrible than AIDS. So this is about female condoms and that's out of the question for me. Odds of getting HPV throat cancer is the hardest to quantify and the biggest crap-shoot.

Thanks for that info footballguy.

What we need here on TUSCL are condom reviews. When people start reading the boastings of TUSCL egomaniacs, like JS69, then they will start using condoms. This way TUSCL can be seen as having socially redeeming value.

We also need to be investing money in making more idealized contraception and STD prevention.

SJG

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full body condoms as seen in naked gun.

^^^^^ If it is done right, so neither party can even tell that it is being used.

SJG