Going rate for an overnight OTC experience

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footballguy
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I'm considering asking my ATF is she would be willing to spend a evening/overnight with me at a hotel sometime. She's the only dancer I've seen OTC (and I've never seen an escort or street walker and don't plan to), every time I've seen her OTC it's been at her apartment during the day. Over known her for a year and a half and have been doing OTC with her for over a year.

My question is for those of you that have done OTC while having the dancer stay with you overnight at the hotel. How much did you pay? How much more was it than a regular OTC encounter (an hour or two) with the same dancer? Was it money well spent?

I really enjoy our current routine but at the same time it would be amazing to take her out for a nice dinner, head back to our hotel room and have some champagne, snuggle and really get to relax and not feel rushed before the real fun begins. It would also be nice to sleep next to her and wake up next to her (and possibly some morning sex) before showering with her.

I don't think she would go for this but it's worth a shot I guess. But it may not even be possible, she's a single mom with three kids so she's have to find someone to watch them overnight. On the plus side she doesn't strip anymore so she wouldn't have to miss work.

Thoughts?

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DaOnion
9 years ago
Due Flush, how much? $27,500 plus bouncer, bartender, bathroom troll, and other tips?
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K
9 years ago
That depends on many factors. Will the over night include dinner and other entertainment? Pay the sitter fees and offer 600. Pick a good hotel with other amenities like a pool, bar and nightly entertainment. She will probably jump at it to get away for the night.
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
I have no idea - pulling something out of my ass perhaps 2x what u usually pay her.

Yeah - her having kids will make it even tougher unless she's used to leaving them w/ someone on occasion overnight (grandma, babydaddy).
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footballguy
9 years ago
It wouldnt necessarily need to be a long evening. Maybe meet for dinner (which I would pay for) around 7 pm then head back to the hotel after for some drinks.

I would also offer to pay for the sitter if necessary but I just don't know if she would go for this. I'm not sure if she would be ok leaving her kids overnight with a sitter. Granted she used to work till 1:30 am so maybe it wouldn't be an issue but she's also had to change sitters a couple times.

Ideally she would have one of her sisters or mom watch her kids but she might find it awkward to ask them to watch her kids all night while she goes out but maybe she could just tell them she needs a night away from her kids to relax.

As far as $600 prices that have been suggested that definitely wouldn't be enough. I'll be the first to admit that I pay quite a bit more than I should for our regular OTC sessions so that's why I was looking back for how much more (percentage) people pay for overnight vs just a couple hours.
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impala
9 years ago
How much do you pay for an afternoon OTC session with her?
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ButterMan
9 years ago
well a lot of it depends on how much you usually pay her. I'd say offer to pay the baby sitter fees of course and offer her 100 more than you usually pay.
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twentyfive
9 years ago
Offer to make it an overnight trip, and offer to pay for someone to take care of the kids, then find a nice destination within say 2-3 hours drive time, if you lived in Florida like I do, i would suggest a trip to the upper keys and an overnight at a nice resort style hotel as an example. I'm sure that you live near some kind of attraction, anyway offer it, in a way that is feels like a weekend or mid week getaway bet she would especially, if she is a single mom and likes you enough to do OTC with you offer what you feel is appropriate make sure to include a nice dinner and either hotel breakfast in bed or a nice brunch place bet she jumps at the opportunity to take a little break, just be sure to get a commitment from her so she doesn't flake at the last minute.
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
If u r paying her very well now then perhaps 50% more instead of 2x.
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footballguy
9 years ago
@Rech that's a good idea but she no longer dances so she'd have to come up with some other excuse.

@impala right now I pay her $800 per visit. I'm sure I overpay but its worth it to me. I had been seeing her ITC for a couple months before I saw her OTC (at her suggestion). When I saw her ITC I paid her a few hundred for an hours time in the VIP room. In the VIP I would always get a HJ and then usually either fingering her pussy or DATY. One time she gave me a brief BBBJ out of the blue but that was caused she owes me some extra VIP time. Then in a visit when I was gonna ask for FS ITC she initiated it before I could ask her. Obviously I tipped her a little more for that. I actually wasn't able to cum ITC, she asked me why I didn't and I said something like it was cause of the condom plush all the noise from the bar on the other side of the wall. The next time I was gonna come in and see her she texted me and said she got suspended for a few days and asked if I wanted to meet up somewhere else instead, so that's how our OTC started.

The first time I saw her OTC (at her place) we never discussed price or what would take place. I ended up getting BBBJ and bareback FS. I tipped her a little more than I did on our FS ITC experience since I had more time and it was OTC, from that point on I just kept giving her $800.

Like I said, I know $800 is probably a lot more than most of you pay but she's worth it to me and she's the only stripper I've met that I would pay this much to. She's incredibly sexy (I love the way she makes eye contact with me when she's giving me a BJ), She gives a good GFE (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, cuddles, doesn't rush me, etc). Plus she's been very reliable and never cancelled any of our plans.

Plus I honestly don't think she'd do this for less money. She seems to be type of dancer that if you offered X amount of dollars for some type of extra she would turn you down. But if you let her choose to offer the extras and she knows she will get a good tip then she is open to it (makes her feel like less of a prostitute).
Plus she always used to mention how slutty some of the other dancers at the club were. She wouldn't say how much they did things for but she would say some of the dancers would fuck any guy for a few bucks.
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Corvus
9 years ago
I would first see if she is willing and/or able to spend that much time with you. If you have known her for over a year and have such a relationship it should be easy to discuss. Then talk price and above and beyond any OTC price pay her full cost for the babysitter.

I would start with double the price you usually pay her, or as Papi said 50% more. It's one thing to double $200, it's a whole lot different to double $1,000.

I've spent the night with a few Sugar Babbies. It is nice to wake up and be able to roll over and fuck her. Mutual showers are also nice. Find some resort type hotel with a bar and restaurant, and other bars/restaurants within walking distance of the room. You can check in and not have to waste any other time driving to and from the room after your meal and drinks.
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ButterMan
9 years ago
Well damn man your in JS69 range. I thought I paid a lot for OTC. At this point I guess you offer her 1000. She is definitley out of my price range. Oddly I was talking to my regular OTC girl about getting an overnight hotel in the summer with a hottube. But I don't think I'll have to pay anymore than regular price. I'll probably just sweetin the deal by coming in and seeing her at the club that night.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
I do this all the time and I don't pay extra for it. But of course I overpay to begin with so that might be part of the answer. My advice is don't just make it an overnight visit. Instead, give her some extra incentive to do it for the regular price or not too much extra. For example, take her to a nice dinner and a show. Then go to the hotel, wake up the next morning and do something else. often take mine to a spa and get a couple's massage. Be creative and do something that both of you would enjoy. This will be a lot more fun than just paying her extra to spend the night, it will build your relationship further, and it might be cheaper. Another idea is take her on a fun 2-3 day trip somewhere.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Here's another idea. I've done this too. Pick a nice hotel with a fun pool/play area. In the morning you leave mid morning and she can bring the kids and let them play for a few hours. I was surprised by this but it was a big deal for one of my strippers to get to take her kids to a hotel. This is something that she can't afford to do for them.
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K
9 years ago
For that price you may not need to add anything other than baby sitter fees. Ask. It looks like my followup may not have posted. Currently one lady friend does an over night for the same as usual but I take her to dinner and a show and we stay at a nicer hotel with some entertainment in the bar
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
I just read that you pay her $800 per date. Given that, you should definitely not pay extra for overnight. Trust me on this. Given what you pay her, and that there are not a lot of other guys who would pay that (present company excluded obviously), she has enough financial incentive to agree to overnight. She wants to keep doing what you do, and getting that $800 every time, and that's enough. Just make it easy (like hiring the babysitter) and make it fun so she will enjoy it. You are getting seriously ripped off if you pay her more than $800.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
This'll be my last comment for a while. Maybe. She sounds like a DS. Congrats.
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footballguy
9 years ago
@JS I was gonna ask why she would agree to an overnight for the same price of a couple hour regular visit at her place. I mean, if I was in her position I wouldn't do it without asking for a decent amount more. With our current arrangement she essentially gets paid $300-$400 an hour. If I didn't pay her any more for the overnight then she would take a substantial pay cut (down to like $60/hour). Granted some of that time would be sleeping but that's still a dramatic pay cut.

But you bring up a good point that she might feel like if she turns my offer down then she might lose my business so it's worth it for her long term fincial gain. Plus if I make it enjoyable for her that could help offset the pay cut.

The problem is i don't know where I'd take her other than dinner and the hotel. There's probably some bars nearby but there's not real entertainment options anywhere reasonably close.
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gawker
9 years ago
Football guy: I'm pretty sure there's two large casinos with great hotels, restaurants, and entertainment within an hour of you. Have her tell her mother she's going to one of the casinos overnight with her girl friends from the club. Then take her there I recently bought 2 tickets to "Imagine Dragons" at one of these casinos and it cost $400. A hotel room & dinner there will set you back $300 or so. Then offer her your regular rate for OT. The night out being treated like she'd like to be treated all the time is worth it.
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K
9 years ago
There is always entertainment. Google, yelp foursquare can help you find music venues, plays, opera , ballet and ...
As mentioned above, a casino is good. Pick a night with a concert or comedy show
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gawker
9 years ago
The going rate in the Connecticut/ Massachusetts area is $400 -$500 per hour. Overnight is usually $1000 or more for a decent (8+) looking date. Good luck.
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
The fact ur a well-paying regular sbould mean u shouldn't have to pay the regular one-time overnight fee someone else might have to (nor should u have to extrapolate rhe fee from ur usual 2 hrs to all-nighr).
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
I dont go on dates w/ dancers but many PLs state that dancers often like visiting SCs as custies (particularly a nice SC & obviously one that she does not work at) - OTC PLs also state both them & the dancer r often super-horny post a nice SC visit - just a thought.
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footballguy
9 years ago
@gawker I forgot about the casinos, that's a good idea although it is a little farther than I'd like to drive but it might be my best option.

@JS she is very close to DS status, probably the closest I'll ever come to a DS.

I did ask her one time if I could bring over some body oil and we could massage it on each other, I even said I'd bring a shower curtain liner to put on the ground and she said no cause she thought it'd be too messy.
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samsung1
9 years ago
I don't plan overnight sessions. We meet up and see how things go. If I want her to stay I offer her more money and see if she accepts.
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impala
9 years ago
$800, holy crap, that's a lot for an afternoon lay. Well, as others have stated, should offer 150% of what you have been offering, so $1200. I will say, though, for $1200 you should be able to find some decent quality escorts for a better part of a weekend.
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Ugluck75
9 years ago
Wow, I only pay my honey a few hundred for all night but I also regularly take her on nice dates and nice places to eat. The $ for dates has gone down over time though as at first I also spent a few hundred for club dances before takeout. Now we usually skip the club and just go out on dates. It sounds like you are also already seeing her so maybe just try an extra hundred for all-night and see what happens. I am sure in metropolitan NE areas it would be higher due to costs of living. Glad I live in the South.
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membernumber1
9 years ago
I didnt read all the comments, but basically that question depends on so much. What is your current arrangement, what do you usually pay her, do you ever have non paid dates, do you ever have paid non sex dates, etc.

I've had a couple overnights but I've never paid extra. Basically they've just crashed at my place after a long evening. But, its never been with a girl that was completely 100% established as Pay-to-Play. It was always with a stripper i was "dating" but "helping out" occasionally.
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rogertex
9 years ago
Offer her 2 grand. She's girl of your dreams. And its only money.
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footballguy
9 years ago
I've never been out any any dates with her (paid and non paid). Ive never helped her out with any expenses, I just give her her fee each visit. I've only gone somewhere with her in public one time and that was just to store a couple minutes down the road, she had to buy some cheap luggage for a family weekend getaway.

Her drivers license was suspended and she said she needed a ride. At the time I figured it was strictly cause her license was suspended but now that I think about it she might have been hoping I would buy her the luggage ($850). I didn't buy her the luggage though, I had just given her her fee (which she partially used in the luggage) and I had also bough her a cornhole game for her trip. She was having trouble finding one so I told her I'd get her one.



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footballguy
9 years ago
I've never been out any any dates with her (paid and non paid). Ive never helped her out with any expenses, I just give her her fee each visit. I've only gone somewhere with her in public one time and that was just to store a couple minutes down the road, she had to buy some cheap luggage for a family weekend getaway.

Her drivers license was suspended and she said she needed a ride. At the time I figured it was strictly cause her license was suspended but now that I think about it she might have been hoping I would buy her the luggage ($850). I didn't buy her the luggage though, I had just given her her fee (which she partially used in the luggage) and I had also bough her a cornhole game for her trip. She was having trouble finding one so I told her I'd get her one.



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footballguy
9 years ago
I've got a question for you, I'm not sure if you would be ok with it or not, if not I completely understand. But if I ever got a hotel room nearby would you consider staying there with me overnight? I just thought it would be nice to take you to a nice dinner somewhere and then relax at the hotel.
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ATACdawg
9 years ago
Jeez, football guy, I don't think we knew you were that kind of a guy! ;-D
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georgmicrodong
9 years ago
If you've been fucking her OTC, as opposed to just "seeing" her, I'd try double the previous rate, *and* offer to pay the sitter. Be prepared to have the sitter costs inflated rather severely.
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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
“… I've got a question for you, I'm not sure if you would be ok with it or not, if not I completely understand. But if I ever got a hotel room nearby would you consider staying there with me overnight? I just thought it would be nice to take you to a nice dinner somewhere and then relax at the hotel …”

Dude – she’s NOT A CIVVIE – you are paying her for sex and are still “beating around the bush” – IMO that shit will just get-you bad ROI – you are paying for *your* satisfaction not hers.

“… she no longer dances …”

Probably b/c how much she makes off of you OTC – you are over-paying and still hoping she does ‘X’ for you – you are giving her too much credit/control/power.


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Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
You are the one paying - and paying very well at that - thus imo YOU call the shots not w/e fancies her (within reason).
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azdd
9 years ago
I agree with the previous comment from "K". You're already paying more than the going rate for just about anywhere, and she knows that. If you're adding on drinks, dinner, maybe some entertainment, plus a nice room, she might go for it at the same rate, especially if she actually likes you and enjoys your company.

Cautions - she may be your DS, but if she's fucking you BB, she's probably fucking others BB. Also, if she does stay overnight, I would be careful about what I had in the room that could be stolen or copied (CC numbers) while you sleep after your exhausting fuckfest.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Football, I have a very different relationship with my girls than you do with this one. You have a strictly pay for a sex session and that's it relationship. In contrast, from the start I make clear to my girls that I want a GFE in every way, including but not limited to sex. This means dinner beforehand at the absolute minimum. But it can also mean lots more at times -- movies, plays, shopping, spas, overnight visits, trips all over the world, etc. etc. I pay them generously and we just work it out each visit. If one of us is real busy then we just have a nice dinner and fuck. Other times, we spend the entire day together. It's very flexible, and I pay them well enough that most times they are comfortable doing whatever I'm in the mood for.

In my opinion the $800 you pay is enough to get this same type of treatment. That's especially true if you are paying her this $800 on a fairly regular and consistent basis. Upon reflection, however, I'm not sure if you can convert a strictly pay for sex relationship into the kind of relationships that I have. Your girl is used to what you do, and maybe you won't be able to teach an old dog a new trick. I've never tried before so I don't know. But I do think it's worth a shot. I'd be interested in your report o. Whether or not it works.

As for what you do with her, be creative. Do a google search. Depending upon the size of the city there are probably literally dozens of options.
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