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10 years ago
No, not Detroit. Its definitely in a state that doesn't have a reputation for being high mileage.
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10 years ago
@Jim neither one of these girls was my ATF. My ATF no longer dances (but I see her OTC). The girl that gave me the HJ is good but she's not one of my favorites. The second girl has become my CF and has ATF potential. I'm not concerned about dancer 2 finding out I got dances from a different dancer because I don't think most strippers care about that. But I am considered that dancer 1 might tell her that she had just given me a HJ Riley before dancer 2 gave me a lap dance. I would imagine that almost all dancers would be grossed out if they found out they gave a lap dance to a guy that had just cum about a 15 minutes earlier, even if my pants weren't wet.
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10 years ago
@Subra I can't speak for everyone but I consider a GFE in a strip club different from a GFE OTC. Even with my ATF, the GFR ITC and OTC are different. Obviously OTC includes BBBJ, lots of kissing, cuddling, no time constraints, DATY, and usually more than one session per visit.
Even before I got FS from her ITC I still considering her lap dances/VIP time to be more like a GFE than any of the other dancers. Her LD's were very, very sensual. Lots and lots of eye contact and just acted like she was enjoying herself. In the VIP room she would give me HJ's without asking for anything extra, I could DATY, finger her and it just felt like she was I to it even though I know it was just an act.
She would also climb on top of me fully nude while my dick was out. There were a couple time when it was only an inch away from going in her. Most dancers would not be comfortable with that. Eventually I did get FS from her. It's just better than a dancer that just goes through the motions or doesn't act like she is enjoying it.
I remember a while ago there was a discussion on here on saying whether or not it was bad of a dancer put you in the friend zone. Well my ATF has called me her friend on multiple occasions, but I've still gotten OTC BBBJ, FS (both covered and uncovered) DFK and even a little anal (she initiated it, it wasn't something that was on my bucket list).
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10 years ago
I definitely like variety. I had been seeing my ATF OTC regularly. It's not that I was getting bored with her but you it just kind of fell into s routine and it was basically the same experience everyth (not that that's a bad thing).
I do like going to the club and getting dances (And extras) from other dancers. I've recently met a new dancer who is definitely has ATF potential and she is close to DS status in the looks department. While I've gotten FS from her ITC, there was no GFE and I don't think there's any potential for OTC either. Of course I also didn't think this would happen with my ATF either but it happened a few months later. As far as looking like my DS she's pretty close; brunette, beautiful blue eyes, gorgeous face, perfect size natural tits (I think I enjoyed squeezing her tits more than any other dancers), and I even like her tattoos.
So while it's nice to get dances from other girls for variety, but is also nice having the ATF that I can go back to. And sometimes after you get bad dances from a different girl it will make you appreciate your ATF even more.
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10 years ago
@Jim I know it's hard to believe, but it really did not make a mess after I came the first time. I guess I didn't cum as much as I normally do cause there were definitely no visible wet spots and I couldn't feel any either.
Trust me, normally after I LDK, I pretty much go to the bathroom and then leave immediately. After I went to the bathroom this time I noticed it didn't look like I came at all (even though I did) so I decided I'd stick around for a few more dances.
I guess my main concern is that I think Candy saw me going back to the LD booth with Haley, so hopefully Candy doesn't tell her that she had literally jerked me off ten minutes before. I don't think she would though because I'm pretty sure the HJs are only supposed to happen in VIP and not in the LD booth.
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10 years ago
If a dancer asks me if I'd like a dance when I don't want one, I just say no thank you. They get the message. Or I'll sometimes use the "I'm waiting for someone" line if I want to avoid them all together.
I was in a predicament earlier today. A dancer came and sat next to me without asking first.most of the dances will ask if I'd like company which gives me the chance to say no thanks.
She started talking to me and I figured she would ask if I wanted a dance within a minute or two. I had no intention of getting a dance from her but five minutes later she was still talking to me. I didn't want to be rude but I was waiting for my CF and I knew she wouldn't approach me if she saw I was with a different dancer.
I was trying to come up with a way to get out of our conversation and I didn't want to get up and risk losing my seat. She mentioned she was waiting to go on stage so I kept hoping she would get called up soon. After about 10-15 minutes of this dancer still talking and not taking the hint that I wasn't interested in buying dances from her I just came flat out said "I don't want to be rude but I'm actually waiting for someone else and I don't want to waste your time". She understood and thanked me for letting me know.
I used this line on a different dancer that approached me she appreciated it as well. I used it on a third dancer and she she sat down anyway and said "I wasnt wasting her time by just talking to her and not getting dances cause it was her job". I was pissed cause I felt like she was cock blocking me so I told her I didn't want company and she finally got the message.
Well a few minutes later my CF came to the rescue and we had a great time.
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10 years ago
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GACAUn-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
Try eating some watermelon an hour or two before your activities. The vitamins in it increase your blood flow. It's nature's Viagara, seriously, Google it. If you search for "best foods to boost your sex drive" it's basically on every list.
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10 years ago
I always tip, on the rare occasions that I've gotten dances that I don't enjoy I still tip $5. I figure that way they won't tell other dancers that I am cheap.
The lap dances I get are $20/ea, fully nude and full two way contact. I Almost always get at least two but often times get 3 or 4. If I get 4 dances I usually tip $20 but if I really enjoyed the dance or if the dancer encourages me to squeeze/suck her tits that I tip a little more. All the dancers let me squeeze their tits, but it's always a bigger turn on when they initiate it by putting my hands on their tits.
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10 years ago
I'm leaning till option A. Although I'm bored or tired of option A, it would be nice to change it up. I know option A is great, but I probably only have one shot with option B and I feel like I'll regret it if I pass it up.
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10 years ago
@PantomGeek, That's a good way to put it. If the only thing I get to do is fuck her and squeeze her tits with no other foreplay I don't feel like I truly fucked her.
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10 years ago
GFE = girlfriend experience
It is sex with the some/all of the following:
Cuddling, French kissing, fingering her vagina, BBBJ, BBBJ with cumming in her mouth. It can happen in the club but it's much better outside the club. Basically she treats you like she is your girlfriend.
For OTC, it might include going out to dinner before sex. Typically a GFE isn't rushed, you get to take your time and enjoy it and possibly have sex multiple times instead of just once.
Sex with a stripper without GFE is basically just sex: no kissing, fingering, cuddling before/after.
If you haven't looked at the glossary I recommend you give it a read.
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10 years ago
@skibum609 My ATF is no longer a stripper. She stopped dancing shortly after I started OTC with her. So I guess technically she is now an escort although I have no idea if she does this with anyone else. It took me a couple months before I got FS ITC with her so I don't think its something she normally does.
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10 years ago
My know it's all an act and that it's not "real love" and that just because she kisses you, cuddles, and and act like she likes you doesn't mean she likes anymore than a prostitute who just goes through the motions.
My point is that the sex is that much better when she kisses you, let's you finger her and pretty much have full access to her body, so it's worth paying more. To me paying for sex with no emotion means you are basically paying for just the orgasm.
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10 years ago
By the way, I know some dancers are grossed out if you LDK, but do you think the ones that encourage it are still grossed out?
I've had one dancer who asked me if I wanted her to keep going (grinding) till I came. Another told me she wanted me to cum while she was grinding on me. I saw got some more dances from her a couple weeks later but this time I was wearing jeans so I wasn't able to LDK. She kept saying she felt like she wasn't doing a good job since I didn't cum and she wanted me to enjoy myself.
A third dancer didn't directly tell me to cum, but she grinded on me in the same position and it was pretty obvious she wanted me to cum. It was an all nude lap dance and I think some of it got in her. After we were done I saw her touching down by her vagina and she said that she "always enjoys our lap dances, especially when she has to clean up after". I know she was just saying that and doesny actually enjoy it and I bet she was pretty grossed out that she had to wipe herself off.
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10 years ago
I personally like the term LDK. It pays respect to the guy that mastered the technique. While it is gross to LDK, after I LDK I always leave the club and go straight home to shower. Plus the clue are dark enough that no one really notices while you make the walk of shame.
I'm in favor of keeping the term LDK (plus it makes for a funnier explanation). But if it has to be hanged, it shouldn't be CIP. Like someone else mentioned, that already stands for cum in pussy. How about CFG (cum from grinding) or CFLP (cum from lap dance)?
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10 years ago
the dancers at the club I go to all wear heels but they all take them off when they give lap dances and are required to take them off in the VIP room. But apparently some dancers ignore the rule otherwise they wouldn't have big huge signs saying they are required to take their shoes off (so they don't puncture the leather couches).
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10 years ago
An LDK is when a dancer is grinding on you during a lap dance so much that you cum in your pants. It's called an LDK beacuse the technique is named after a regular called LapDanceKing. He has mastered this technique. Some guys wear basketball shorts with no underwear so they have as thin of a layer as possible between them and the dancers pussy. I am able to LDK wearing khakis and boxers. Some dancers want you to LDK and encourage it, some get grossed out by it.
As far as the original post, I agree. Granted I've only been clubbing for 6 months but I have evolved very quickly. When I first turned 21 I went to a few clubs periodically with my friends. At this time I was happy just seeing naked girls on stage. They did buy me a lap dance on my birthday but I was so new to a strip club that I didn't get any good mileage. After about 4 or 5 visits I didn't go to any for a long time.
Fast forward about ten years later (I know live in a different state) and after seeing some reviews of the strip club in the city I live in, I decided to go. The reviews didn't mention anything about extras but said there was lots of two way contact so that was good enough for me.
I originally was only going to go once and get a couple lap dances. Well I got dances from a few different girls and I went to the VIP room with the third girl and got s HJ. So I started coming back regularly. At first I was satisfied with sucking their tits and getting a HJ in VIP. Then I found out I could LDK SO THAY started becoming my focus.
After a while my favorite dancer there have me FS iTC and now I see her OTC for FS. I still go back to the club but now I my goal is to either LDK or get A BJ or HJ in VIP.
So I went from being just happy to see naked girls and get to squeeze their tits during a lap dance and satisfied with masturbsting whrn I got home to needed to LDK or get extras in 6 months. I got extremely lucky that I found this club (it's not s dive club) and as great as this club is, it's basically going to ruin any other non extras club for me. I don't see how I could ever go to a club that doesn't allow two way contact.
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10 years ago
It's happened to all of us at one point or another, not much you can do about it. I was in a similar situation a few few months ago, there was a ten on stage (physically my DS) and I tipped her very well and asked her if I could get a dance when she was done. When she got off stage she walked up to the bar and walked past me to get a water. As she walked by I thought she was coming to see me so I said hi but she barely acknowledge me and left. She went over to a table and sat there by herself looking at her phone for over an hour.
I was pretty frustrated cause I never had a problem with any other dancers approaching me and I didn't get why she would rather just sit there instead of making money.
Later I was talking with a different dancer who I got a couple dances from earlier in the evening and she asked if there was a particular dancer I was waiting for. I mentioned the "10" and she said she would go over and ask her to come see me. This dancer went up to the 10 and talked for a mi ite and came back and said the ten had to go on stage again but would find me when she was done. I tipped the dancer $10 and waited.
After the ten was done she went to the dressing room and stayed back there for a bit. Well the other dancer found out and got pissed and approached the ten again and basically made her approach me. I finally got my dances from her but it was obvious she wasn't into it. I did get to squeeze her tits but I barely got any grind.
So there's really nothing you can do to pry a dancer away from a customer. The only time I've seen it down was when I took two dancers that were friends to he VIP at the same time. I was talking with dancer 1 for a while and she asked if I wanted to bring dancer 2 with us to VIP. When I said yes dancer 1 walked up to dancer 2 who was sitting with a customer and basically pulled her up from her chair and said we are going to VIP. It was awesome.
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10 years ago
@LDK, I agree, I would rather LDK in 2-3 songs since it would obviously be mug cheaper. But considering this dancer was a 10, letting me suck her beautiful tits, and making out with me, I didn't mind that it went on for so many songs. If all she was doing was grinding on me and nothing else then there is no way I would have stuck around for so long.
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10 years ago
@Vikings, I have posted reviews, I just post them under a different account. I guess you could say I'm just a little paranoid.
When I post my reviews I don't use dancer names (to keep them from getting in trouble) and i don't go into too much detail about what extras I receive, only that I received them.
When I make posts on the forum I am much more direct about my experiences, so I do not want to post something like the above post and then have someone be able to look at my reviews and put 2 and 2 together and figure out what club I am talking about.
It may be only a tiny chance the club would get busted, but it just doesn't seem very smart to me to advertise in detail about experiences I have in a club and have someone be able o figure out what club I am talking about. To me, reviews don't need to go into too much detail to let you know what is on the menu. If a review mentions that there was a lot of two way contact, good mileage, and the reviewer mentions that he left with a smile on his face than it seems pretty likely that some form of extras took place.
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10 years ago
Anyone ever here of a dancer "suspended" for three days because of her being late?
I had FS ITC club a few weeks ago. The next week when I was about to leave to go to the SC to see her, she texted me that she was being punished for being late and that she wasn't allowed to work for 5 days days. So she suggested OTC, I've seen her OTC several times now and she hasn't worked at the club since.
She said she doesn't want to go back to dancing, and she feels very disrespected by management cause she had worked there for so long.
Just wondering if she really got punished for being late or if there was more to it than that. I don't think she was punished for FS or anything cause it's very obvious that management either encourages extras or just really doesn't care. Every time I've gone to VIP I've gotten either a HJ, titty fuck, BBBJ, DATY, or FS the one time, and I've gone to VIP with 5 different dancers. And once during a lap dance, the dancer unzipped me and gave me a HJ in the lap dance booth while I could see pretty much the entire club from where I was sitting. I could even see the entrance, if the booth wasn't so dark it would have been very obvious what she was doing.
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10 years ago
Early twenties are probably the hottest but I think 30-35ish might be the best age. They can still be plenty hot enough but also are a little more experienced and provide much better dances. I'm 30 and while I can appreciate a hot 21 year old grinding on me, there's just a little something extra about a hot 35 year old. Of course, two of my favorite dancers that are in their mid thirties and have kids still have amazing bodies: no cellulite/stretch marks, firm tits, and soft skin. In my experience the girls in their thirties seem to care more about making sure I enjoy myself as opposed to them only caring about making money.
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10 years ago
Good to know I'm not the only one this has happened too. I didn't realize it was so common to accidetally walk I to a women's restroom.
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10 years ago
Similar thing happened to be once but I was at a Target. I was in the back of the store and all of a sudden had to shit pretty bad. I came walked over to the bathrooms and I could have and I could have sworn I followed a guy in front of me entered the same restroom I was going in so I guess I didn't really look at the sign. Anyway I went right to a stall and didn't notice there weren't any urinals.
I was on the toilet and I heard a female come in and go into a different stall. At first I almost laughed cause I thought she came into the men's room until I came out of the stall and realized there weren't any urinals. I bolted out of there as quick as I could. I was lucky there weren't any women at the sink but just as I was coming out of the door a woman was about to enter and she did a double take but didn't say anything to me.
As far as an embarrassing moment in SC, I've been lucky and haven't had anything really bad happen. One time I was going to go to the VIP room with my ATF but I did t have enough cash on me so I had to use the atm. I had already withdrawn a good chunk earlier in the day before I arrived so I wasn't able to withdraw enough money. At first I had forgotten I took money out earlier, so I went to withdraw $300 and didn't ask for a receipt. Well the atm said "thank you" but didn't give me any money. I thought I got ripped off so I kept mess into around with it till I could withdraw money and then I realized what was happening and that it didn't rip me off. It was embarrassing cause after a few minutes my ATF came to check on me to see what the hold up was.
On a different visit I was getting a few LD's from one of my favorites. She was grinding on me so good and I experienced my first LDK. I didn't warn her or anything and I'm sure some of it got on her (this is at an all nude club so she didn't have any panties on) and as she stood up I could tell she was checking around her pussy and realized some got on her. She dl thanked me for the dance and said "I always enjoy our time back here, especially when I have to clean up afterwards". It was pretty obvious she was trying to get me to LDK cause she always asks if she's grinding too hard or not hard enough and she stayed in the same position for quite a while. But I still felt bad for not warning her.
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10 years ago
I'd definitely tour the best SCs of the world, especially ones that offer extras.
For those that partake in FS OTC, would you continue your strategy that you currently use or would you only go after 10s since money wouldn't be a problem.
Let's say you allocated yourself a few thousand each week. Would you spread that out to fuck a few 7's or 8's thought the week or would you spend alol of it on a 10 once a week?