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5 years ago
A lot of people, including us PLs, have a hard time being transparent. It’s always great to deal with people who are straightforward.
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5 years ago
What jackslash said.
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5 years ago
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AtAboyStill learning to proofread
I’ve done quite a few very successful OTCs, but have also had failures. Here are a few favorite failures (uh, learning experiences):
- Arranged same night OTC. Drove separately to hotel. Met stripper in lobby. Noted someone had dropped her off. In the room, we necked a bit then she asked for the payment. I paid, then went in bathroom to run a shower for her. She was talking on her phone, then said she had to go down to her friend’s car because she needed to get her special shower gel. Of course, she disappeared. I was glad the robbery didn’t happen at gunpoint.
- Arranged same night OTC at the end of a dancer’s shift. We drove together in my car to my hotel. We hadn’t done any dances in the club. I had just tipped her on stage. I noted she was a bit frosty in the car when I touched her thigh. Once in the room, she just curled up in a ball with her clothes on and went to sleep. LOL! I stayed awake all night and at the break of dawn told her to gather her stuff. Dropped her at another hotel, where a group of dancers were staying. I think this was my first recognized experience with a trafficked person. I think she just needed a night away from her pimp. Of course I didn’t pay her a nickel, and I was happy nothing bad happened.
- Met a cute dancer, with a nice rack, for OTC at a hotel. When she started getting undressed I noticed she had pasties over her nipples. When I asked about the pasties, she said it would cost me more for them to come off. The meet-up quickly ended. Made nice and gave the ROB a small tip to avoid an argument.
I’ve had a few other OTC “learning experiences”, but thankfully I’ve never been in a physically threatening situation. However, I now slow my roll with OTC and try to get to know a dancer a bit better. Some of these girls have genuine psychological issues and are on medication! There is plenty of quick hit OTC available, but it would only take one carelessly arranged outing to end my mongering game for good.
AtAboy, please take heed of all the awesome advice here! Happy clubbing!
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6 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I’m still here, but not active on the board. It’s less entertaining now.
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6 years ago
Stretch marks don’t bother me. But when coupled with obesity, that’s is a turnoff.
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6 years ago
First, I’d only consider those offering GFE.
I’d go for Mariona. Potentially natural C-cup boobs, full lips, good fitness.
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6 years ago
Way to go Juice. Let us know how it works out.
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6 years ago
Net net, sex work in general, and stripping in particular, is empowering to women. The financial resources generated in the industry feed and care for a lot of people. However, there are several dark elements to the business that negatively impact many people, namely: sex trafficking, drug and alcohol abuse, physical and mental abuse, and STDs. Enlightened countries, where prostitution is legal, address these risks head on.
I have respect for sex workers across the full spectrum of its many forms. Before stepping into a strip club for the first time just a few years ago, I had a generally negative/uninformed view of the industry. I see things quite differently now that I’ve developed friendships with several dancers.
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6 years ago
It’s really easy to overspend on vices, whether its sex, gambling, drugs or alcohol. Undisciplined spending on other stuff can be a problem too.
It’s good to understand what you really want from sex workers and spend moderately and consistently to get it. The best value I’ve experienced is with a time-generous SB, on a economical monthly stipend.
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6 years ago
I recently asked a dancer how pairs of 8-inch stripper shoes she owns. She said one. It’s her only pair of work shoes and they hurt her feel. The day we sat chatting, I rubbed her feet for a short while and she showed me her small corns. LOL!
A few years ago, I capitalized on a similar need for stripper stuff and invited a fav stripper out to shop for a new outfit. Bought her three stripper gowns and a pair of shoes. She was very grateful and fucked me silly. It was the first OTC for both of us.
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6 years ago
I like them both. Would like ’em even more with a GFE attitude.
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6 years ago
EchoPizza, I highly recommend YouTube as a source for learning about all the items you’re unclear about. Usually the first few results will give you a good overview of a topic.
My favorite books about building wealth are:
1) “Think and Grow Rich” by Napoleon Hill
2) “Multiple Streams of Income: How to Generate a Lifetime of Unlimited Wealth” by Robert G. Allen
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6 years ago
chessmaster, DFK and even FIV are possible on the main floor, with the right girl, in a dark corner.
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6 years ago
Yeah I can relate. Agree it’s part of the thrill of clubbing — the search for the dancer that provides that special heart-racing feeling.
The beautiful 25 y.o. Latina, whose lips are my avatar, made me feel that way. She was my first ATF. Amazingly we only did one VIP for an hour in an expensive NYC club. Still ranks as one of my most memorable non-FS VIP experiences.
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6 years ago
Fun thread, and well-written too.
You got great advice from Cashman1234 and GACA. Yeah, you’re being played young fella.
Spread your wings and spend your 26-yo-level of disposable entertainment funds on a mixture of chicks, including civvies.
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6 years ago
FTS wrote: “If you truly want more money, you must increase your understanding of the nature of money. That is, you must increase your understanding of the nature of humans, because money manifests itself out of the comings and goings and doings of humans. The more you understand people, and the more people you understand, the more money you can earn.”
Awesome advice. Note some variation of the word “understand” was mentioned 4 times. People who gain understanding, particularly about money, have a greater opportunity to build wealth.
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6 years ago
Head to NJ. But, if you insist on NYC I’d recommend Rick’s Cabaret. Wide variety of dancers, and main room grinding creates an orgy-like atmosphere.
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6 years ago
The basic formula for creating wealth over time is:
1) Build your skills through continuous education, including college degrees and/or certifications. Invest in yourself. Build your knowledge and capabilities.
2) Develop multiple streams of income. If you don’t have a high income from your job, add a side hustle or two.
3) Live frugally, well within your means. Save at least 15% of your income. View strip clubs as a source of entertainment. Balance is key. Think with your big head, not your small head. Pay your bills first, and stick to an affordable clubbing budget.
4) Take full advantage of tax-advantaged savings programs (401k, 403b, IRA, etc.).
5) Carefully invest savings in income-producing assets, including stocks that pay dividends and small businesses. Be very picky, as startups have a very high failure rate!
6) Manage downside financial risk through an emergency fund and various types of insurance, including: health, life, home, auto, and disability.
7) Build a strong network of contacts in your area of expertise so that you can land a new job or customer quickly when necessary.
Regardless of income level, a disciplined saver can accumulate wealth over time. Best of luck to you!
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6 years ago
Yes, I can “sleep” with a stripper. BUT, I’ve learned the hard way to only do it with strippers I’ve built a solid dating relationship with. Best experiences have been overnights with my former SB, and a couple potential SBs. Found it best to let overnights progress naturally through travel together or my visits from out of town.
What hasn’t worked for me is trying to turn same day pickups into overnight stays. Too much security uncertainty and lack of trust on BOTH sides. It’s always a bad sign when a stripper is relying on someone else for transportation. This brings an unknown third party into the picture and adds risk.
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6 years ago
^^^ What sinclair said.
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6 years ago
This troll is clearly male. Funny as shit. Enjoying the “entertainment”.
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6 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
From the TUSCL glossary on the website footer:
PL
Pathetic Loser - get a grip, she's not in love with you, she just wants your money. All of it.
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6 years ago
Get well soon sc!
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6 years ago
Meant to type “polyamorous”.
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6 years ago
Agree with Papi’s first comment.
Monogamy is a great way of life, but it’s not right for everyone. I’m polygamous and don’t want to be limited to being intimate with a single woman for my lifetime. I don’t want to depend on the whims of one person for the natural intimacy I need.
I club because it’s a super easy way to fulfill my need for physical intimacy. Strip clubs provide convenient instant gratification. For a relatively cheap price, I can access the full spectrum of adult entertainment from just looking at tits, to sexy convo, to a traditional GF relationship. I don’t consider this lifestyle/ entertainment choice anywhere close to sexual addiction. Clubbing is an additional activity/hobby in my life that makes me happy.
Same with porn. Looking at porn regularly doesn’t make me a sex addict. The dominant culture in many countries restricting nudity is what’s unnatural.