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9 years ago
Without knowing if the wife has any other income or if there's any child support on the line, I'm really not sure. But I'm guessing that the mediator/judge/wise trash collector might've told your wife it's time to look for a job or a new bank roll. You'll probably have to pay so much alimony up to a certain point, then it's all on her.
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9 years ago
VBD, you might want to look at the stripper politics of the situation, too. How high up in the pecking order of that club is this dancer? If you give her the cold shoulder from here on out, do you think she might discourage other dancers from seeing you? Do you think she's pulled this with other customers, too?
You might consider putting her on a sort of probationary period, maybe 90 days, see how she does during that time. It isn't necessarily something you need to tell her, though letting her know just how pissed off you were when she started demanding money would probably be a good way to let her know there are ground rules to this business relationship -- rules on both sides, not just hers.
And whatever you do, make sure she realizes this isn't something exclusive -- you're there to have fun, with or without her. You don't have to say it in so many words, but a couple extra lap dances from some other dancers could make the point.
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9 years ago
- You're so smart and funny and handsome (all I said was "Hi")
- I almost orgasmed
- I'm your only friend here. Don't trust any of the other girls.
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9 years ago
Wow, can't argue with that face either.
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9 years ago
Forgot to mention that the shooter turned the gun on himself, too. Put a bullet through his own head.
Asshole.
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9 years ago
I'd rather not think about Wal-Mart about now. Last month, we had a 2am there. Drunk airman (possibly on drugs, too) went in there and shot a couple of people -- killed one guy, wounded one woman. The guy was 70yo and probably one of the nicest, most inoffensive people you could ever meet -- and he got a bullet in the head for no fucking reason.
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9 years ago
John, I don't know your DS. There's no way I -- or anyone here, for that matter -- can give you an really accurate read on the situation. And no offense, man, but I don't know how much you're thinking with your head and heart or how much she has you thinking with your libido.
I've been played before by a woman who wasn't even a stripper. But she was a single welfare mother who could well have been a stripper if there was a strip club in the area. She got knocked up by a guy we worked with. For months after the announcement, the asshole continued to claim that he was a virgin. I got sucked in to the "damsel in distress" routine big time; even fell head over heels for her and all three of her kids. Delayed a move to the Twin Cities by a year. A little bit here, a little bit there, even more now, then a ton toward the end. She promised to pay me back (or rather, she promised that her folks would pay me back). Yeah, never happened. I wound up going bankrupt because she never paid me like she promised. And during one long-distance conversation, I suggested she and the kids move in with me in the Twin Cities; she told me she never saw me that way. Course not. I was just a fucking pathetic loser/lap dog with a wallet and good credit rating for her to use. Never again.
A couple years ago, a stripper I did OTC with tried hitting me up for some serious cash. I was driving her back to her house when she laid out the sob story -- again -- emotionally abusive husband who was the son of the sheriff; he's into drugs (yeah, like she wasn't); he cleaned out her bank account; she, her two sons, and her mother were living "off the grid" to avoid him -- and she needed $2,000 to move back to Maine to get out from under him. I told her, "Wow, good luck with that." That was the end of the conversation, and it was just silence until I got her to her front door. Like I said, never again.
If all of this really is on the up and up, take Estafador's advice: Give a woman a fish, she'll eat for a day; teach a woman to fish, she'll eat for a lifetime. Help her check up on her insurance policy, make sure that this procedure is or isn't covered. Help her budget so she'll take the brunt of the bills. Get her off the damn cocaine and other drugs; that'll save her -- and you -- a good chunk of cash. Quit taking her on shopping trips; teach her to save and invest.
Set boundaries, for her and for yourself, because I have a cynical feeling what she's really trying to do is test your boundaries. If you give her that extra $10 this week because she batted her eyes and gave you a sob story, she's pretty certain to get $20 from you next week.
Good luck, John.
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9 years ago
You had one set of lap dances and one *rather lame* VIP from her -- and she's a favorite?
1) I don't care how hot she is. If she has no respect for you or your time, you have no need for her.
2) Again, I don't care how hot she is. If she gives you such a lukewarm performance but you're still drooling over her, slap yourself silly, count to ten, slap yourself again, and then think seriously on if you should be pursuing her.
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9 years ago
Jennifer Aniston? Meh.
They also forgot Lolita Davidovich in Blaze.
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9 years ago
I'm broke and I'm the definition of a geek, but somehow, in my travels, I still manage to get a little ITC or OTC. How, I really can't be sure. My age (53) might have something to do with it; it's probably helped temper my hormones a bit so every other sentence out of my mouth isn't "You wanna fuck?"
Best thing I can suggest is just take it a bit slow and easy. Try to have an actual conversation, even if it's just for a few minutes. And be mindful of the roaming hands. A dancer might find you more approachable if you massage and caress her throughout the lap dance (provided it's allowed, of course) rather than try to stick any random appendage (including your tongue) in her before she's even taken her top off.
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9 years ago
Clubber,
Just gotta say, "OUCH!" And it sounds like you aren't a hunting buddy of Dickless Cheney.
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9 years ago
You can always email Letha via her website: http://lovelethaweapons.com/
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9 years ago
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BigPoppa99;)Florida-hooking up with Ms. EveHartley, since 2010!
I usually start off with a couple of lap dances to get a read on the lady. If it's mostly air dances, forget it. If there's a lot of roaming hands and other enticements, I try to just open the door for the possibility with something kinda-sorta innocuous like, "I wish we could do more." At that point, it's strictly conversation (at least as I see it), so if anyone happens to be listening in, they really can't say or do anything, not at that point anyway.
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9 years ago
Strip clubs might be public businesses, but they're also private property. While a doorman probably can't turn away *every* unaccompanied woman, in his best judgment, he can turn away some, particularly those who he feels will cause trouble -- the obvious drunks and drug addicts, those with a full head of steam looking for their SOs and/or the dancer they're banging, off-duty employees who shouldn't be distracting on-duty employees, people who have been identified as trouble-makers in the past, and the like.
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9 years ago
No kidding. That isn't the way I'd want to get buzzed.
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9 years ago
It just seems so empty without Abigail Ratchford.
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9 years ago
Wow, I hope this is just a joke...but then again, with Shadow, who really knows?
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9 years ago
Clubber, is that along the same lines as getting shot in the face by a hunting buddy and then you apologize to him?
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9 years ago
John, how many years has your DS been 19 now? ; )
Seriously though, I've met some people who were genuinely dumb and some who were really good at playing dumb. Have three or four more visits, get to know her a bit better, try to get a better handle on the situation. She could well just be playing dumb and giving you the boyfriend routine to test you.
And if your monger senses do say that she's being on the up-and-up with everything (c'mon, she's lying to her boyfriend; why not lie to some potential john?), try to get a better read on the boyfriend. Last thing you want is to get caught with your pants down -- literally.
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9 years ago
Maybe she was hosting a TUSCL meet-and-greet?
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9 years ago
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whodeyFat bastard that can afford to fuck hot strippers
Kudos to those kids for coming up with this idea. Very inventive and colorful, yet discreet.
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9 years ago
Maybe John just needs to spend more time ITC with this dancer, teach her the ways of a real sex worker, just try to get her on the same page he's on...eventually. Once she is, then maybe she'll be more receptive and less flaky to OTC.
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9 years ago
Almost forgot -- a good burlesque show, too.
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9 years ago
There's nothing like a halfway-decent translation site to help the conversation along.
http://www.bing.com/translator/?ref=SALL&br=ro&mkt=en-US
A few years ago on another forum site, some of us were chatting back and forth in Morse code. It was a good time in a good thread.
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9 years ago
I'm hoping for next month when I'm in Indy.