Studs and/or Rich?

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• Clackport

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  9 years ago

  I'm a rich stud.
• shadowcat

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  9 years ago

  A few of us are studs, some of us have money and some of us are members of the Liars Club.
• jayhawk123

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  9 years ago

  I am partly asking for advice on how to best make OTC happen so serious answers are welcome. I do believe some are members of the Liars Club though.
• Clackport

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  9 years ago

  I'm actually not a rich stud, I'm a VERY rich stud. I make it rain 50K every time I hit the strip club.
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  Obviously I'm a rich stud, but that's not what it takes. Well, it does take some money, but with dinner a hotel and paying the girl, you can get a decent dancer for $300-500. Dream strippers of course cost extra. And Follies girls, as usual, are dirt cheap because of something that they put in the drinks at the club. As for advice, mainly it takes experience. Practice makes perfect. It takes a little effort, but its not really difficult once you get the hang of it. I've got the DS mainly, and a half dozen or so other girls in various states of negotiations and experience. If I had the time and didn't already have one dancer who is so awesome, it wouldn't be that hard to line up others. It also helps to go to a club where takeout is common, although its usually available to some extent pretty much everywhere. There are lots of posts dealing with the specifics. I suggest that you read those, share your experiences, then ask specific questions. "How do I get OTC" is too broad of a topic.
• crazyjoe

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  9 years ago

  Shit
• warhawks

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  9 years ago

  It's mostly money. If you have the resources and can offer enough money then it's fairly easy to do OTC. It helps to be someone a girl can stand looking at, And It also depends as to where you are located at/clubbing. Living near or clubbing in an area like Detroit can be easier to get girls to do OTC, than it is in like, say Vermont.
• GACA

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  9 years ago

  Strippers are usually in there 20's to very early 30's. It helps if you are in this age range too if you don't want to pay every time you fck. Yes you are gonna have to spend some money so they know that you aren't broke. Then it's like any other girl, hang out, spend a little cash on her and others while getting to know them. One day they will ask you for a ride home.
• PhantomGeek

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  9 years ago

  I'm broke and I'm the definition of a geek, but somehow, in my travels, I still manage to get a little ITC or OTC. How, I really can't be sure. My age (53) might have something to do with it; it's probably helped temper my hormones a bit so every other sentence out of my mouth isn't "You wanna fuck?" Best thing I can suggest is just take it a bit slow and easy. Try to have an actual conversation, even if it's just for a few minutes. And be mindful of the roaming hands. A dancer might find you more approachable if you massage and caress her throughout the lap dance (provided it's allowed, of course) rather than try to stick any random appendage (including your tongue) in her before she's even taken her top off.
• tumblingdice

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  9 years ago

  Both.
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  You could always follow the "system" I used on my fav dancer. Take her to VIP, kiss every inch of her incredible body, eat her pussy for 20 min, give her multiple orgasms, and pay her exactly what she's worth. Easiest OTC discussion ever, and she was a tiny baby stripper. "I want to take you to dinner, and then a hotel so we can do that all over again," I told her. "Sounds great," she said, "let me give you my number." A few days later I was inside her again, and we've done it almost every week since then. Sometimes throughout the week. It's hard to go wrong by DATY. Maybe you can tell that I'm high and horny. But that's exactly what happened. We have a date tomorrow. It's hard to imagine how a stripper could ever be better than this. I'm tellin you, DATY is the reason why.
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  That, and lots o cash of course.
• Clubber

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  9 years ago

  In general, as there are always exceptions, the dancer/PL game is all about one thing, CASH!
• jackslash

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  9 years ago

  I'm a stud. Dancers pay to have sex with me.
• Dougster

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  9 years ago

  rickdugan is a RICH STUD because he figured out how to pay hookers for sex in only ten years! J/k is actually nothing but a massive faggot!
• metaldude

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  9 years ago

  Are you asking about OTC or waiting for them to bring it up? Sometimes the girl will broach the subject but far more often you need to be the one raising the issue. A lot more details would be helpful to be able to give more specific advice.
• 4got2wipe

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  9 years ago

  "I'm actually not a rich stud, I'm a VERY rich stud. I make it rain 50K every time I hit the strip club." Brilliant!
• 4got2wipe

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  9 years ago

  "You could always follow the "system" I used on my fav dancer." The DS I presume? Personally, I'm partial to the dachshund-frog system! It's brilliant! :)
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  Yes 4got, that is the short version of how I met the DS.
• azdd

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  9 years ago

  I agree with metaldude, you have to bring it up, but not constantly. If you have an ongoing ITC relationship, you should just flat out ask - would you be interested in getting together outside the club? if she's been dancing more than a week, and is decently hot, she's probably already had offers. You have to convince her that you're a safe choice, not a creep/stalker/ax murderer, and that she will be fairly compensated. You should be clear ITC about expectations OTC. For example, as came up in another recent thread, maybe she's not comfortable with kissing, or maybe she's up for oral but not intercourse. Also, if she says yes, every dancer will tell you that they don't see other customers OTC, but she's willing to see you because you're special. Just let that lie go, and enjoy yourself! One other thing, it's been my impression that many dancers are more comfortable seeing older, married guys OTC because we are as concerned about discretion as they are. Plus, we usually have more stable and abundant income to spend on them!
• Papi_Chulo

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  9 years ago

  There are several variables: + according to your reviews; you SC in Kansas and have only been to 2 clubs; so location and type of club *can* be an issue but is not the end all be all + do you spend when you are in the club; OTC is about $$$ - there may be “some guys” that will say they fuck strippers they've met in the club for free; but IMO that is the rare exception – these women are used to making $$$ off their bodies and in the confines of a SC they rarely give anything for free – thus; if you only spend $40 on your visits a dancer may not see you as a good OTC prospect that is worth the time and risk + often times one needs to establish an ITC relationship so the dancer feels more comfortable – many women do not feel good/safe about meeting up w/ a dude in a random hotel room that they just met + you need to ask but ask in a non stalky way – something along the lines of “do you ever meet customers outside the club?” - she'll know what you mean and you'll get a yes or a no (IME most dancers do not do OTC but there are often a few that do) – if you do get a yes; then you proceed to specify the details b/c o/w she may think you just want lap-dances OTC or just her company
• pensionking

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  9 years ago

  In the civi world, HS and college age girls only fuck studs. Otherwise, it is all about the benjamins. Escorts, Strippers, Sugar babies, women with biological clocks ticking loudly are all the same. They are looking for money (or the illusion of financial security). Some are in it for the short con, some the long con. Don't get me wrong -- I'm glad it is true and that I have figured it out. In this way, us rich ugly ducklings get our turn with hot pussy.
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  @jayhawk123 At a given club there will be some girls accustomed to OTC and some who are not and who will be offended by any such offers. Usually the one's accustomed to it will make themselves known. But guys get all sorts of things from strip clubs, like off the clock outside liaisons with horny young hotties, like the beginnings of a serious relationhship, and like P4P OTC's. You sound like a nice and easy going sort, so you shouldn't have any problem. In my view it is ALWAYS a mistake to try and persuade a girl to do something she is not otherwise interested in doing by using money. Rather, wait until she indicates that she will be wanting money. So you can like me, start out by flirting with them and coming on to them. Results should be good. Getting the chance to learn to do this is one of the main benefits of strip clubs. But then there will be some who are coming on to you in the form of OTC offers. It is with these ones only that you can find out how much the cost is. But I would still say that the costs can be lower if you keep it as civilian as possible. Do you find dancers approaching you with not explicitly stated OTC offers? Rick Dugan's System is about how to get these, and also to avoid spending money in the house in dance booths. Also, if you are not getting what you want, you might consider AMPs, and look up the cities near you on RubMaps. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  I read more of what people have posted. In my opinion, if you are not married and not otherwise trying to wall off your life from the girl, then there is no reason to steer it towards P4P OTC. If you can just befriend a girl and if you find that you and she get along, then you can ask to see her outside the club. Of course they like business cards and offering this is a good way to start. They like them because they connote social status, but also because what it says on them is probably the truth. If she wants it to be P4P, she will let you know soon enough. But otherwise you might end up with a young hottie for a girlfriend. I would NOT EVER ask a girl anything phrased as, "Do you ever ......" . As that is asking her what she does with other people, basically asking, "Are you a prostitute?" I consider this totally improper. SJG
• jestrite50

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  9 years ago

  I think it all depends on the club. Some clubs have more girls willing to go OTC than others. You first have to build a relationship ship with a girl so she is comfortable with you and knows how you will treat her physically and financially. She needs to feel safe with you and know you wont do anything she doesnt want you to do. This starts in the front room then leads to the back room and then to the hotel for there. It takes time to develop those relationships in the club. It won't happen when you first meet a girl. If it does she is a liability and I wouldn't take her to a hotel.
• TheFword

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  9 years ago

  I've had only 3 OTC experiences, none worth repeating. All were from the 1st time meeting her(them) at the club. Two I asked them 1st, 1 suggested it. I have had a number of other opportunities but never called them. Most of these girls suggested it and gave me their numbers. All but 1 was on the 1st meeting. I have asked and been told no. That hasn't stopped me from asking occasionally, although I'm not sure sure I'll call even if I get the number. I had a dancer in the VIP and all I got was a HJ and a titty fuck. I asked her if she ever got nastier, "Not here" she replied. I got her number and she was 1 of the 3. Recently I was getting FS ITC. I asked if I could meet OTC and "Fuck you properly" (I hate the uncomfortable CG on the couch with my pants on and her panties pulled to the side). I got her number before I left. I have called a couple of girls for OTC but , in 1 case she wanted way too much $500. The other 1 I set up a morning meet the next day, but I called back and cancelled. I had other things come up for that morning besides she wasn't that into it when she gave me a brief BJ before finishing with a HJ in our ITC session. You don't have to be a stud, just have enough $ and it helps to be in a target rich environment.
• jestrite50

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  9 years ago

  @TheFword You see the quality of experience you get with that approach. Believe me you can have a much better experience if you take your time and don't be so forward. I have 3 regular GFE's going now and all of them want to do this and call me.