Did I do the right thing?
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Girl has been dancing 4 months. Says she's never done OTC except a guy took her to dinner once. No sex. I'm inclined to believe her.
We discuss it over 3 club visits and she eventually expresses interest for me to be her first OTC. She agrees to dinner and sounds agreeable to doing what I want sexually in my hotel room.
We text to set up the details. We had tentatively agreed upon $300 but she talks the little head into $400.
Then she texts that she's nervous and wants to discuss some more details. I come to her club to talk last night (the date was tonight). She says she doesn't kiss. I reluctantly say ok. She says no blow job cause she's afraid of stds. I give her a lesson on std risks and my pure nature, but she still says no bj. I say no date. Eventually after showing me her tits (she has great tits) we agree on $250 for an OTC date with no blow job but covered full service, hand job, and/or titty fucking.
This afternoon I text with her re details and times. I make dinner reservation at the restaurant she told me she liked, and she writes back and says can we skip dinner. The little head says ok. He really wants to fuck those tits.
Then I text her the hotel details and suggest a time. She says ok but she says that starting time "is when my hour starts." The big head finally takes over, and this really pisses me off. Yes I said it would only be an hour in the hotel but she seems so damn focused on the time limit. It sounds like she wants the hour to start as soon as she steps foot into he parking lot. No kissing, no bj, no dinner, and a strict time limit. She's got more than her club does. I just get the distinct impression that this is going to suck (in the negative sense of sucking).
So I cancel. She tries to explain that she "just wants to keep it simple." But I interpret that as her doing as little as possible and still getting my money. So I stick to the cancellation. She hasn't responded again so I assume she's pissed.
Did I do the right thing? The little head is having second thoughts cause only one thing matters to him. If he doesn't cum on those tits then his night has been ruined. But the big head reminds me how awesome a DS date is, and says this girl will be a huge disappointment in comparison. The big head also says this girl just isn't ready and I don't want to be the one to train her how to do OTC.
Which head is right?
We discuss it over 3 club visits and she eventually expresses interest for me to be her first OTC. She agrees to dinner and sounds agreeable to doing what I want sexually in my hotel room.
We text to set up the details. We had tentatively agreed upon $300 but she talks the little head into $400.
Then she texts that she's nervous and wants to discuss some more details. I come to her club to talk last night (the date was tonight). She says she doesn't kiss. I reluctantly say ok. She says no blow job cause she's afraid of stds. I give her a lesson on std risks and my pure nature, but she still says no bj. I say no date. Eventually after showing me her tits (she has great tits) we agree on $250 for an OTC date with no blow job but covered full service, hand job, and/or titty fucking.
This afternoon I text with her re details and times. I make dinner reservation at the restaurant she told me she liked, and she writes back and says can we skip dinner. The little head says ok. He really wants to fuck those tits.
Then I text her the hotel details and suggest a time. She says ok but she says that starting time "is when my hour starts." The big head finally takes over, and this really pisses me off. Yes I said it would only be an hour in the hotel but she seems so damn focused on the time limit. It sounds like she wants the hour to start as soon as she steps foot into he parking lot. No kissing, no bj, no dinner, and a strict time limit. She's got more than her club does. I just get the distinct impression that this is going to suck (in the negative sense of sucking).
So I cancel. She tries to explain that she "just wants to keep it simple." But I interpret that as her doing as little as possible and still getting my money. So I stick to the cancellation. She hasn't responded again so I assume she's pissed.
Did I do the right thing? The little head is having second thoughts cause only one thing matters to him. If he doesn't cum on those tits then his night has been ruined. But the big head reminds me how awesome a DS date is, and says this girl will be a huge disappointment in comparison. The big head also says this girl just isn't ready and I don't want to be the one to train her how to do OTC.
Which head is right?
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I think you made the right choice. You should get what you want as it is your money.
I hope this "no BJ" thing isn't trending. I had one offer me OTC with CFS but no BJ just a few nights ago. She claimed that it was something she reserved for her SO. At that point I backed out of the negotiation quickly. Like yours, this one didn't sound like much fun.
Absolutely did the right thing.
She was putting too many contingencies on the OTC.
She either:
A: Didn't want to do it/didn't feel comfortable
Or
B: was going to try to up sell you and/or be a ROB.
I can understand her OTC depredation – we need to recall when *we* were newbies as custies and how green we were – it’s hard enough for most dancers just to do the dance thing in a club (i.e. get naked in front of strange men and grind on them) – w.r.t. OTC there is the added fear of you possibly being LE and setting her up (not that this is reasonable but could/will go thru the mind of a newbie) or you possibly being a horny weed-smoking “suck my dick or I’ll kill you” homicidal maniac (not totally off base for a female to have some fear about meeting a dude she does not know very well).
Strippers are like a box of chocolates …
If you find her fine/hot enough then it may be worth the roll of the dice and the “training” and she may end up being a good investment (kinda when a pro team drafts a rookie) – if you can pass on her looks-wise (you can take it or leave it) then it’s better to find a more sure thing.
Just my 2 cents.
It also sounds like you may yet bed her OTC since she just likely freaked out about her first OTC attempt?
I am working on a nice young black dancer who has always seemed against OTC sex. Then she seemed OK but hesitant, then she made an offer to me and agreed to $200 for an hour. She then appeared to hesitate again, then she backed out (well in advance) due to "a schedule change" on her end, which may or may not have been related to her kid? And while I am always willing to admit I'm wrong in reading the signs, I have the distinct feeling she has also never met a customer OTC for sex.
But I'm still working on her from afar with little to no pressure, and $0 cash from me. I will see her on my next trip to her city, maybe in the club, maybe OTC? But I'm willing and able to play the long game with this one. If it happens, great, if not we had fun ITC.
Keep working on her and those tits. Sounds like it will happen if you play it right. Maybe rub her clit and leave her wanting more!
More intimate than sucking my dick?..
Don't give up on her, though. Let her know the offer is still on the table, the *lower* offer, and don't mock or pressure her.
Sometimes a robotic fuck is okay. But I know you like DATY and to at least enjoy the fantasy the prostitute isn't just watching the clock and thinking about money the whole time.
I can't fault you for cancelling, nor would I have faulted you for going ahead with it.
I think Papi is right that this girl still has limited potential, especially given those tits. Yes she had the attitude of a ROB. But the reason I let it go as far as I did is because I really don't think she's done this before, she is very nervous, and she had no clue how this type of an arrangement would work. So I think she really was just figuring it out as we went, and not being a purposeful ROB, even though she fucked it up.
I do think I made the right decision for tonight. I like how Bater put it -- showing the little head tough love. I'm not going to pursue her anymore. But if she is apologetic ITC, takes the initiative to try again, and seems willing to learn, I might possibly give her one more shot. But there are lots of candidates for my #2 girl, so she will have to step up her game to have a chance.
Looks like it's me and you again tonight Rosie.
You did the right thing JS.
Just don't give in down the road. She had her chance and you can find someone else to spend your money on.
Regarding some strippers and hookers not wanting to kiss: Well, we have an idea where their mouths have been sometimes and don't want to kiss them after that. They probably have some similar thoughts about our mouths.
Great call!
Damn if you do; damn if you don't – look what happened to this PL @ Scores in Tampa, FL:
“... I went to Scores while in town for work and the work was done, I got in right after it opened, around 4pm. I was the only customer for a long time and it was me and the bartender for a bit. Around 4:30 the first stripper rolled in and she was a solid 7: blonde, nice cans, good body, but with some baby fat. She was probably 21 years old (as they let her drink). We started hanging out and I got some dances ($20 per song). Lots of good contact. I suggested we hang out outside the club and she asked how much was i offering.....I offered her $400 and promised dinner and then we :hang out". She took the offer. She arrived at my hotel, we went out to dinner....and then she left, saying i only paid her for her time, nothing more.
Needless to say, I am a fucking idiot ...”
https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?ID=833
Geek, you may well be right about this one. I'm still going to hang out with her itc, spending a little but not a lot, and see how things progress. She has lots of OTC competition at this particular club, and she knows that I'm discussing the same services with her competition. But she's cuter than most, so I don't want to chase her away yet.
Funny you mention that. When I was 18, I WAS shot by a hunting buddy, but at the opposite end of me. However, I didn't apologize to him.
Just gotta say, "OUCH!" And it sounds like you aren't a hunting buddy of Dickless Cheney.