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13 years ago
@Clubber - Haha, yes that's always fun. I've done the same with my ATF. I wouldn't say she's bisexual, but definitely into experimenting a bit ;) It can be very hot.
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13 years ago
Heh, everyone really needs to just chill out. No reason to have arguments over semantics, etc. as in the thread. If Player11 considers himself a player, then good for him. No need to take this extreme and start throwing insults because of this - he may not be a player in everyone's eyes, but who really cares.
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13 years ago
I agree with that, it's good to be the first guy. :)
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13 years ago
If $30 a dance is the standard cost and you're receiving extras on top of that, I'd throw her a nice tip. But that's me. :)
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13 years ago
At the place I go to, yes, the girls go to the restroom frequently, presumably to take care of this (and other things). There are probably instances where girls don't clean up between guys, I'm sure this happens in some clubs...
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13 years ago
> I feel like I have wasted some time or money in the learning process.
Yeah, that's always going to be the case. There are some different aspects to each club, and it takes some time (+ money) to learn it all. But you've gotta love the fruits of the labor. :D
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13 years ago
Here in NYC, extras are not common. OTC is possible, with varying results (to be expected). Anything private (champagne room, "blue room"/fully private) is extremely expensive in clubs, but general lap dance quality isn't too bad for the price ($20 a pop, + tip, which I'm typically quite generous with). What's good is that dancer quality tends to be really high, especially at Flashdancers. But as you venture out into other US markets, you'll see a lot more extras and lower prices for private sessions, which if that's what you're looking for, is honestly much better.
So I guess when I venture out of NYC the extras are a really nice benefit, but I miss the overall higher quality dancers at places like FD here.
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13 years ago
@rl27 - yea, now texting during the dance would just be terrible. major turn off. luckily, that's never happened to me. the girls usually don't keep their phones on them (kept in the back rooms) in the places I frequent.
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13 years ago
> Hey, if you had fun and the money was no real loss no harm.
Ain't that the truth, haha.
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13 years ago
Have spent about 4-5 hours as my max so far.
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13 years ago
With all due respect for everyone here and their experiences, I will say that not all strippers are going to be straight up whoring themselves out like that. Many do, but there are specific cases where this just isn't true (especially in markets where they just don't have to). We don't know the situation here, so I guess we can't really say for sure. But assuming the worst (or 'best' heh) is one way to look at it, as mmdv26 described.
ranukam, if you really think it is worth it, don't let people here stop you from doing your thing. Just be careful. Don't get yourself into debt, and don't be too hurt if this does not work out. You may be in contact with her in the future if she does decide to stop, and perhaps you can rekindle things. This girl may be very beautiful - but there are many great looking girls in the world. The fact that you're in love with this particular girl is what's probably putting you under the guise that she is the best (in your perception). Try not to get too obsessed.
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13 years ago
It may be hard to hear what Realist is saying, but he is right for the most part.
I believe you that the girl is really beautiful. I know what you're talking about - there really are some fine ladies (some that could pass as models, or in one case I know actually become a model) that happen to be at strip clubs for one reason or another.
It sounds like you are really into this girl, it may be rude but I do always have to ask in these situations, is this all mutual? The fact that you're not providing her with any funds makes it seem legit, which is good. You really don't want to make this into a pure monetary relationship either, if what you're after is something real.
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13 years ago
Yeah, I agree, perhaps some guys can/do - I personally do not.
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13 years ago
I guess I should clarify my earlier post. I know a girl who does this a little bit, but she is looking at me for probably 90%+ of the time, so it's really not unreasonable. If a girl was doing this the whole time, I would hate it, but a slight bit can be kinda hot. Maybe I am alone in that.
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13 years ago
I think it's natural for some girls to do this, and it could honestly be pretty hot too - it depends.
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13 years ago
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Book GuyI write it like I mean it, but mostly they just want my money.
I know where you're coming from. But honestly you have to remember that it's their job to do this. The ones who are best at it will try to make it all feel as genuine as possible, even when it is not. I do realize however that it's possible to have legitimate "friendship" with some of the girls there. Now that these girls are very apparently all about the money, go for some other girls.
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13 years ago
I would be a liar if I did not say physical beauty matters. Overall the strippers are better, which is what makes it worth it.
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13 years ago
Yeah, you really can't expect much from a champagne room. It's most often not going to be FS, sometimes not even a HJ. It can be a good time still, but a lot of money for it.
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13 years ago
Truthfully, not every girl in a given club is going to be partaking in sexual activities with her clients. I know this to be fact for some girls (one of which happens to be a -top- earner). But this is going to be more prevalent at upscale places, not at sleazier places where sex ITC (and OTC availability) is more of a norm.
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13 years ago
Haha, very interesting thread regarding bringing the porn.
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13 years ago
LOL, yeah - steve, I agree, that's just silly. Even in NYC, "don't touch during the dance" is far from the rule in a decent amount of places.
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13 years ago
Got myself access to their group.
It seems that their last event was back in March, have not seen any events announced since then. Doesn't look like it is too popular, but something I may check out if they have another event soon.
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13 years ago
At Flashdancers in NYC they are still somewhat busy in the mid to late afternoons, even on a Monday from what I've seen. Lately it has depended on when my ATF is there, but I do prefer going toward the end of the week, like Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, as in general it seems they have much more dancers. Even so, I do like the afternoons, a lot more calm and a lot more attention from the girls. ;)
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13 years ago
Doug,
The place does look pretty cool - I contacted them to inquire, will probably be checking it out myself.
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13 years ago
http://www.thelidoroom.com/
Seems like you can contact them there. Looks like a little sketchy, but let me know how it works out!