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14 years ago
I have had a couple of really close relationships with dancers I have seen otc. The two I have had the most sessions with are friends of mine on Facebook (I have racked up over 200 sessions with them combined). Facebook gives me a stream of constant data about them along with photos to add to my already extensive archive. Interestingly enough these two got married within about 45 days of each other. One of them I have been seeing almost 2 years. She told me her marrying the guy she has been living with 4 years would not affect our meetings for sex. It has not and the sex has been good as ever. She loves to model bikinis for me. At most I would consider her my mistress but many would describe her as essentially a Housewife Prostitute. She describes herself as happily married to her HS sweetheart on her FB page. This may be true but my dick has been deep in her a lot lately. The other I stopped seeing in 2007 after her demands for money escalated due to pressure from her bum BF she is now married to. His trump card was that he had fathered her 4th child (she had the other 3 by two other men). These two women are a prime example of women in supposedly happy relationships who engage in Prostitution. They are as excited as they can be willingly posing for pictures, enjoying different dick, and of course shopping money. Seeing strippers will smash a lot of concepts you have about women.<br />
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Victor, IDK how much money you have put into her but its gotta be a lot if your buying her out of the club. My article about "Dealing with Dancer Drama" can help you. I generally regard them like a College Football coach regards a Heisman WR. I know one day they will graduate and evaluate the relationship on POP and sex enjoyment satisfaction. POP with the one I am seeing averages $150 (down from around $200 last year). I hate to think what you are probably averaging for POP but it must be in the stratosphere. Once your are past all the fantasy glitz with these gals and emotional manipulation you can see them for what they really are. They are like actresses in a play and will act out their roles as long as the money keeps flowing. Don't expect anything more. A Players goal is getting some good stuff and keeping POP low not being a RIL. <br />
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While I treat them like a queen, I essentially regard them as mistresses at best. Unless I am fucking one itc, I generally stay away from the club. Lets face it if she will meet me at motel for say $100 - $200 for pussy why go to club and spend money say $100 on dances and tips? I can just about get pussy for that. Its no fun seeing them with other men either. <br />
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14 years ago
Tuition can get very expensive and they will up the ante the more emotionally involved your are. Sort fo like a poker player with a strong hand going all in. Thing is they have nothing but SS and are out to get your cold hard earned cash.<br />
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I have been there as a RIL and a really good ROB was my prof. They can be very manipulative and put you into a world where you easily give in to their requests spending lots of money on dances, takeing them shopping, giving them handouts but no pussy. Take a serious look at what your spending vs seeing a good hooker.<br />
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14 years ago
Want to add this is a great article. One observation about them and I think your article picked this up: Everyone of them I have seen otc who did not have a car either had a drug problem or Bum BF they were supporting or both. This is always bad news. I have found the gal who has her own car is much more reliable, less drama, and a better performer in bed. Another thing if you have to get them somewhere, you probably will be drafted into taking them back home to the same place which gave you bad vibes when you picked her up. Sometimes they will want you to take them to stop off with a friend to chat for a few before taking them home. Don't - this is a drug run and if the cops stop you and find drugs on her guess who's going to jail too - you. So best thing is do gals who have their own car and can reliably meet you at the motel in a timely manner.
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14 years ago
While I don't dispute your statement of paying upwards of $1000 to screw a stripper, at the club where I am VIP I have done them in VIP or CR for $100. Now this is one I have been regular with for going on 2 years. Performance (plus how long she will give u) depends on the girl. For me in Houston at the clubs where I have had extras POP is usually $100 - $300. I did have a dancer quote me $1000 for otc sex at ST James but quickly put her in her place that I have been getting it fo $150 - usually gals that quote ROB prices like that don't really fuck anyway.<br />
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As my VIP memebership is Lifetime, my cover charge for the club is waived and entry to CR and VIP is free for me. I would never pay a pay as you go VIP fee above $25. In Houston there are motels all over town where one can rent a room for two hours for $25.
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15 years ago
<p>In Houston there are certain clubs where Sex in CR is available. It depends on the club, how tight mgt is, the stripper, and the price. I have done strippers in CR many times with POP ranging $100 - $300. That they are married or have BF makes no difference. They are thrilled and excited to be getting some strange along with $. At an extras friendly club probably 75% of the girls on shift will do sex; its just a matter of money.<br />
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A married one I have been doing almost two years both itc and otc says he just thinks she dances and does not allow them to touch. At a club where I was doing her itc, mgt did not seem to care what was going on. </p>
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15 years ago
I have always thought of the SC as women's predatory natural environment.
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15 years ago
This can be scary but it can be hard to resist a good BJ especially if she loves to suck.
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15 years ago
Great Article. Excellent users manual for a Houston Club like Centerfolds, Ritz, Treasures. Love #16, those gals are a usually a trail marker of many happy things to cum. And I love #13, I wonder how any of those bitches make any money. I think a lot of them are alcoholics hoping some sucker will buy them a drink. 7&8 - Right on, could not agree more.
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15 years ago
BBBJ can be scary when all of a sudden a gal will start sucking it in VIP. But it sure does feel good!<br />
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I had a 20 yr old stripper do this to me in VIP as a prelude to sex. When we did sex she said "this is a 20yr old pussy so its gonna be tight....." It was and really nice and she brought the happy ending in 5 or 6 minutes.
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15 years ago
I would say the stripper I have been seeing is "A friend with benefits." There are not strings attached and the sex is great!<br />
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15 years ago
Ony an idiot would try to attach a stigma for paying for pussy. Its no different than paying for food IMO. I have found many guys who knock paying for pussy really don't have any money. Consequently, they can't even get in the game LOL.
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15 years ago
Yes watch those pants even if the sex is over. Your most vulnerable when your laying in bed and she gets up. Before you know whats happening she will reach in your pants take all your money, wallet, etc. and run. She may have an accomplice waiting outside to pick her up. If she wants to stop and get cigs while your taking her to motel, she could be phoning an accomplice. Hell I have had them want to stop off like this somewhere and spend a long time in the convienence store and then see them hitting on the guy at the counter. <br />
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Keep your pants in sight and close. Don't let her reach in your pants and above all never let her take your car keys to get something she supposedly left in your car.
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15 years ago
Great post - I knew there was a reason I prefer meeting my ATF for sessions vs a traditional GF.
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15 years ago
#10 A funny one. Dancers I meet have no trouble giving out phone# and as a paying customer I certainly have no shyness about asking for it.
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15 years ago
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Great article, super read. A good thing for a Strip Clubber to have a print out of along with travel plans.
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15 years ago
#12 I have to laugh at that too. The few dancers I have done background checks on (people finders) have all had an arrest record be it prostitution, theft, or DWI. I don't need to lie about my background (self employed professional with graduate degree) as its pretty solid anyhow but some of the truth that has come out once I got to know some of them: their divorces, number of different men who have fathered kids with them, arrest record, drug use, etc. can be make one think twice about considering anything with them. I have even had them lie to me about the fact they are supporting their BF or Ex.
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15 years ago
I find #23 hilarious. Like heck I am not gonna try to feel her, kiss her, suck her tits, or proposition her for extras. Are you kidding me? As a matter of fact, if she doesn't do extras she probably won't get much of my money. You bet I am gonna ask if she works otc or maybe even make an offer for some itc action.<br />
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#12 I have to laugh. With all the lies ROB Strippers have fed me over the decades you have got to be kidding.....<br />
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#4 Wanna bet - catch me if you can.... #5 I don't owe a dancer a damn thing unless its for an agreed upon service like a dance or extra.<br />
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#22 The sleazebo dancer BF's are usually pimps or drug dealers that she is probably supporting. Many do not mind her working otc as it brings in money. I have even had them even come out to the car (when I was waiting pick her up for motel date) and say "she will be out in a few- running late - you know how women are." Of course it pisses me off when a gal is late or her man might cross my path. I do pack some serious heat.....in the event it got nasty.<br />
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IDK who from Strippers Web posted this article, but many of the items illustrate their denial mentality. The reality is that many strippers work otc and do extras itc. I go to SC for my goals, not theirs.
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15 years ago
Great article. I have found that there are gals who are specialists in sucking and others who specialize in fucking. When they team up and do a threesome with a guy they bring a fantastic synergy to the session IMO.
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15 years ago
I have never understood telling a wife or GF about strippers. Thats a bad choice in my view admitting your spending money on other women let alone seeing them. Its worse to tell co-workers bc that could get back to a boss who might become biased against you and then fire you. Of course the company would write you up on how its all performance related.<br />
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If I were a young man and married I would definitely want to enjoy my SC hobby but would not breathe a word of it to a wife or GF.<br />
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Need to know is the key.
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15 years ago
Not mad at all Dougster. Its just obvious to me your not a Player.
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15 years ago
Good Article. I have a separate laptop for this kinda stuff than the company laptop. Any pics I download I put on a flash drive.<br />
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You do not want to use any kind of work computer for this as there are all kinda company snoops who will spy on you. I know of a woman manager who would access the web browsing history of her reports from home. She had 2 small children under 3 - looks like the bitch would have had something better to do. At another place the department manager was a fanatic about coming down hard on anyone caught doing personal business on company time. He was the kinda guy who likes to come in and fire people and at his prior location had fired half the people. When there is a mgt change try to check the guy out to avoid being blindsided. Some of these people aren't getting any real ass (or dick) and get off with power, lording it over people.
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15 years ago
She is very similar to one of the first strippers I saw OTC and mainly what inspired my article "Dealing with Dancer Drama." <br />
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They can be very manipulative with SS and you can not let them make their problems yours or it will literally suck your bank acct dry.<br />
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Dudester, best of luck in your SC Travels. I look forward to reading more of your reports and articles. It appears we have gone down some similar SC paths.
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15 years ago
Thank you for your article. I certainly agree prostitution should be lagalized. I have found seeing strippers cheaper than getting a new wife. The sex with the ATF I am seeing both otc and itc is the best I have had (and I have done a good number of gals). Although she is married, she loves dancing and servicing me (hey she just loves to fuck). I am pushing 60, she is 28 and I have been seeing her around 15 months. Nowhere like an SC to hookup with young gals thrilled to get some different dick. IDK how long I will really live, but I will enjoy strippers as long as I can........
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15 years ago
<p>First of all, I am a very serious Strip Clubber seeing gals otc and taking itc extras all the time. I really enjoy my hobby.....and am a LT VIP member of a couple of Houston area clubs. Even if I were happily married, I would do this. Heck, I like variety and have rotated multiple girls (It will drive u nuts LOL!). Houston is a SC mecca, dozens of clubs, high mileage 2 way contact, and lots of girls who work ouside the club. At one club where I am VIP extras are very available in CR and VIP. As a matter of fact, non extras girls will not survive in the club very long.<br />
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As far as discussing with anyone else, I keep it need to know only. Strippers and other Strip Clubbers - yes. Others - no. I would not discuss with a woman I was dating in the traditional sense and certainly not with a significant other. Women resent strippers (many of them know they are no competetion for them). You certainly don't want to disclose this to co-workers or anyone who could affect your career. Telling a woman your are going to a strip club enjoying much younger, prettier, uninhibited women is definitely a no no. I understand the need to discuss the hobby. I have a close friend, a longtime business assoiciate, who like me sees strippers. We discuss hobby issues all the time and have even shared girls at his house. About two years ago he invited me over to his house to meet a stripper I had seen at the club - Jessica 21. When I arrived she was in a bikini in his driveway talking with him, sunning. About half an hour later I took Jessica inside and fucked her in one of the bedrooms for $150. I went on to do her 27 times over the course of several months (she lowered the price to $100), rotating her with a couple of other girls. She introduced to her friend Maggie who also stripped a couple of weeks later and I did her a couple dozen times during the same period. My point is, having a good friend to discuss your strip club hobby is good as both of you can vent about the issues, share info / insights, and fix up each other with different girls. But discussing the hobby with "civilians" I would not advise. </p>
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15 years ago
Dancer drama will get you down if you let it. Frankly, I think a lot of it is just SS. My article on Dancer Drama outlines a lot of the issues.<br />
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Remember, your in control, not them. They are the owners of their problems (and most likely the cause), not you. If they want to open up and rant, nothing wrong with listening and maybe getting in a feel or two but don't let it control your wallet or emotions. Their drama itc could be just SS or a prelude to setting up a hookup otc date. If the latter, I will let them know I can help them ($$$) but make clear what I will need in return (I don't ever give advances or pay for what I am not getting - I don't give a damn if they are about to be evicted). They wil unload all kinda SS on you to get you to give them money for nothing in return.