Etiquette a dancers advice and perspective
m6pilot
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<div>1. If you sit next to the stage, it is somewhat expected that you tip the ladies. If you're not going to tip, sit in the back! If you go to a concert, you pay extra for front row and floor seats, don't you?<br />
2. NEVER tip a dancer in change! If you have nothing but change, take it to the bar…they will convert it to paper money for you. Think about it; WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IT?<br />
3. Getting a private dance with a dancer does not entitle you to her exclusive attention for the rest of the night. Remember when you were a kid and your parents let you ride on a pony? The pony wasn't yours alone to ride for the rest of the day, was it? If you want exclusive attention, buy private dances for the rest of the night.<br />
4. If a dancer throws an article of clothing at you, it's not yours to keep. It's a short term loan.<br />
5. If your only excuse for not tipping is you don't have any money, don't come to a gentleman's club until payday. If you have a Chevrolet budget, you don't go to a Mercedes Benz dealer shopping for a car, do you?<br />
6. Do not complain about drink prices! You don't go to your neighborhood bar and complain to the bartender about the lack of dancers in the bar, do you?<br />
7. NEVER refer to a dancer's G string as butt floss. Not only will it not be the first time she's heard that, it's a pretty unhygienically sound concept.<br />
8. Do not complain about the body styles of the dancers. The same girl you are criticizing is probably wearing a garter full of cash. She's obviously SOMEONE'S body type!<br />
9. The maximum number of times you should fold any bill you are tipping with is once in each direction. Please refrain from any money origami (such as folding a bill into the shape of a phallus, a pterodactyl, etc.)<br />
10. Regardless of how much money you have spent, do not expect a dancer to give you her phone number or to take you home. If you tip a waitress well, do you expect her to go home with you and make you a milkshake?<br />
11. Please sit in an area that's appropriate for the number of people in your party. One person sitting at a club full of people at a table for four is not only rude;it makes you look a little scary. If someone is alone at a table with the number of seats you need, it is acceptable to ask the person to "share" the table as long as you can see both of his hands.<br />
12. NEVER lie about your occupation! If you tell a dancer you are a doctor and you only tip her $2 in a 4 hour shift, she knows you are one of 2 things: a cheapskate or a liar, neither of which will endear you with her.<br />
13. If you're having a birthday or bachelor party at the club, do not expect any more attention than anyone else. You will get the gentleman's club equivalent of the waitstaff at a restaurant singing "Happy Birthday" to you. Any thing more than that is because they WANT to do it for you or someone has given them extra money to do it.<br />
14. Do not ask any of the dancers to dance to any of the following genres of music: opera, children's songs, death metal, or bluegrass. However, if the club offers karaoke, it is encouraged that you sing songs from one of these genres. There's nothing like a dancer giving a private dance to a poorly sung rendition of "Puff The Magic Dragon."(Thanks, Chris!)<br />
15. Never expect the dancers to be as friendly to you as they are to the female patrons. EVER!<br />
16. If there are females in the club, do not assume they are there trying to find a date. They may just be there to get away from all the "pigs" and "dogs" at other bars. Prove them right! Don't turn into a "pig" or a "dog".<br />
17. When it comes to closing time, the normal rules of bar etiquette apply. When you finish your drink, please leave in an appropriate amount of time, usually within 5 minutes. Waiting for a dancer to come out at the end of the night is both scary and a sign of desperation. Come back and see her again.<br />
18. If you don't like any of the following, coming to a gentleman's club may not be for you: cigarette smoke, cigar smoke, the smell of perfume, or feathers and glitter. They are all part of the gentleman's club experience most evenings.<br />
19. Never look a dancer straight in the eye and tell her to "Dance, BITCH." Most likely, she won't dance for you, neither will any of the other dancers she talks to. She's not your slave and, usually, she knows what her job is!<br />
20. Never bite, grab, lick, or slap a dancer's ass. Even though she may not be looking at you, there ARE mirrors and she CAN see you.<br />
21. If you do bite, grab, lick, slap, etc a dancer while she's dancing, no matter what your intentions are, expect to be kicked in the eye with a stiletto heel that rivals the size of your manhood.<br />
22. Do NOT track down your favorite dancer in the "real" world or on myspace simply because she was nice to you at the club. It's her job moron! If the dancer happens to like you or finds that you have some redeeming quality and wishes to be friends/date etc... she will let you know, and make it obvious that you are privileged enough that you may contact her and give you instructions on how to do so. Otherwise you are most likely just going to really piss off her angry, violent boyfriend/husband/significant other. =D (-G)<br />
23. When receiving a private dance from a dancer, it is not your right to grope, grab, lick, kiss, suck, and/or ask for sexual favors. She is a dancer, not a whore.</div>
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1) If a dancer approaches me at my table, she should know that I showered and put on clean clothes before coming to the club. I also engaged in dental hygiene. If she comes over, pussy stinking like week old garbage, she should know I'm going to be offended.<br />
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2) If I agree to a private dance, that dance should start at the very beginning of a song. Dance means rubbing against my body. Taking two minutes to remove your costume is rude. I'm paying for a dance, not an undressing session.<br />
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3) If a dancer asks for my cellphone number, it should be a mutual agreement leading to an OTC date. If I want an OTC experience, the dancer should be at my beck and call (not vice versa). I'm paying and the customer is always right.<br />
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4) If a dancer wants to know my real job, she's actually asking something very intimate. A club is a fantasy experience. Since the dancer is most likely dancing under an alias, I can be fighter pilot Joe if I want. If she really needs to know my profession, she should be ready to provide real information about her life-convictions, loser boyfriends, outstanding warrants, etc. <br />
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5) If I pass on a dancer, it's spiteful and unprofessional for her to cock block me. If you smoke, have bolt ons, are dressed like a dungeon master, are over 30, look like a man, or your pussy smells like week old garbage, I'll most likely pass on you. Part of a dancer's job is marketing. I prefer a young 20ish with a pleasant personality and manners. If you need grooming tips, see me and I'll help, but don't poison other dancers because I said "No Thanks".</p>
<p>About 23. I'm paying 20 bucks every 3.5 minutes (that's 300.00 an hour) for a private session with a naked woman. I expect to grope her, suck her nipples, and play with her clit. I will ask if she likes to fuck outside the club. If you don't like this, you should consider another profession.</p>
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Plenty of dancers date customers.
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Don't (1) tip with change; (2) expect a night of exclusive devotion; (3) be an asshole; (4) stalk a girl; or (5) go to a club broke? Duh? Does this really need to be said here? :)<br />
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Number 12 is off - if you think there are other options open later, lie your ass off - most of these girls will not know the difference <i>if you look the part</i>. Also, numbers 10 and 23 are true in a small percentage of places and very different in others - read the previous article to get my take on those.<br />
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This was obviously written with input by a particularly anal (not in a good way) stripper, club owner or both. I cannot count how many times I have heard a stripper talk about how unfair it is that she is losing money to girls that will do extras or will go outside the club. Well honey, like the cigarettes, cigars, perfume and glitter referenced in 18, that is also "part of the gentleman's club experience most evenings" in some places.
If you're paying $300 an hour for a private session ITC, here's a thought: Just hire an escort! You can pay less per hour (even for girls who aren't dogs). You likely already know this, though.
I've worked as a stripper and as an escort. When I was dancing, I couldn't understand why guys would pay so much money for the champagne room (or many private dances) instead of just "cutting to the chase" and likely spending less money. Is it a guarantee of the "merchandise" (to avoid bait and switch)? Is it necessary in order for the sex to be fulfilling? We all have our fetishes, after all. I'm just curious.
On a more general note:
I'm an open-minded sort. Hell, if it were legal, I wouldn't be opposed to (safe) orgies in clubs. But things being what they are, I must say I resent the "extras ITC or else" attitude I see here a lot. I wanted to make guys happy. I wanted to say "yes." I was just afraid of getting caught, and I couldn't relax and be at my best in this circumstance. There are clubs where extras are very risky, and while you guys may not care if a dancer loses her job, she does. (And I'm sorry, but it's just fucked up to fire the dancer on the spot and let the customer who is putting on a condom stay in the club. Yes, I'm thinking of your friend, Shadowcat.) So if a dancer gets really nervous about ITC extras, consider that maybe she's just trying to KEEP her profession. Since customer money talks loudly, especially now, the dancer has much more to lose than the ITC "john."
I quit dancing because I was tired of keeping a constant eye out for management, even for more minor extras. (I was once written up for kissing.) With precautions, it's far less likely that cops will burst into a hotel room. It's a much better venue for me.
Oh, and for the record, I'm educated, and I've never been addicted to drugs.
Au revoir!
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#12 I have to laugh. With all the lies ROB Strippers have fed me over the decades you have got to be kidding.....<br />
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#4 Wanna bet - catch me if you can.... #5 I don't owe a dancer a damn thing unless its for an agreed upon service like a dance or extra.<br />
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#22 The sleazebo dancer BF's are usually pimps or drug dealers that she is probably supporting. Many do not mind her working otc as it brings in money. I have even had them even come out to the car (when I was waiting pick her up for motel date) and say "she will be out in a few- running late - you know how women are." Of course it pisses me off when a gal is late or her man might cross my path. I do pack some serious heat.....in the event it got nasty.<br />
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IDK who from Strippers Web posted this article, but many of the items illustrate their denial mentality. The reality is that many strippers work otc and do extras itc. I go to SC for my goals, not theirs.
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Dance, BITCH! Gotta try that one. Brilliant!<br />
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"23. ... She is a dancer, not a whore."<br />
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Yeah, like there is a difference. <br />
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Please leave our world now and go back where you came from so you can "Dance, BITCH!"<br />
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p.s. If you want to be treated with respect, work in a profession that shows you've earned it. Until then... "Dance, BITCH!"
As I wrote before, I left dancing so that I could whore in a setting where I could relax. I'm a slut-one who is careful about my health and safety-and I'm not ashamed.
But why is it SO difficult to get through your head that NOT ALL STRIPPERS ARE WHORES?!
I've read stripper blogs written by very literate and intelligent strippers. One, "rivercitykitty.com," (with entries from 2002-2008) was written by a dancer who had danced for over a decade. And guess what? She didn't let men grope her, let alone do extras. And even more shocking...gasp...she still made great money and won many loyal customers! And...wait for it...she has a BA in English!
So this dancer, like me, had the education to get a straight job. This dancer wasn't a druggie either. So why did she dance? Because she couldn't make the same money with an English degree as she could with her tits (as she put it). Because she wanted the freedom of not working a 9 to 5 job. And because she loved dancing.
So before you tell dancers to get a job where they DESERVE the respect to not be told "Dance, bitch," consider that they may be a hell of a lot smarter than you are and that they may have reasons that aren't addiction or desperation for wanting to dance, even though they could do other things.
Are there fucked up, uneducated, druggie dancers? Hell yeah. But assuming that all dancers are like that is like me assuming that all customers are ugly asshole horndogs who would never get laid if they didn't pay for it.
And just who the fuck do you think you are, Dudester? What, you think that just because you wave money around, dancers should all bow down to you? You think you're so superior? Not when your posts are so ignorant and misogynistic. I believe you wrote in a post on this thread that "the customer is always right." No, he isn't. Think of it this way: if workers in the adult industry went by this motto, there would be a lot of "Gee, Mr. Stranger! I'll ride you bareback! After all, you hate the way condoms feel!". Limits can be for your own safety. They can also be to avoid getting fired and/ or arrested (but I covered this before).
So, really, get over yourself. Have you heard of Diablo Cody? Former stripper who won an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay? Do you have an Oscar? I didn't think so.
Oh yeah...Diablo Cody didn't whore, either.
So in the spirit of the "Dance, bitch" command you love so much:
Go fuck yourself, horndog!
<p>Pilot! why do you think we need be patronized by such rhetoric allegories?</p>
<p>Should I respond to; say, your ‘pony tale’, it would not take three hours. I’d simply state, "I didn’t get to keep the pony but at least I got to ride it".</p>
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-the stripper bills in increments of 3.5mins i.e. per song, whereas an escort would be a no show for anything less than an hour (many requiring bookings of more than an hour!) and will generally charge in 1 hour increments thereafter <br />
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-also in a club, u get to preview the goods before the services and if u r not satisfied (or very satisfied!) u can quit after 1 dance<br />
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-some people also enjoy the thrill of sexual activity in public places (i know it's called a "private" dance, but in some places it's essentially an orgy)<br />
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#3 works both ways. Just because I get a private dance with a dancer, doesn't mean that I want her to spend the rest of the night with me. If I (politely) ask them to move on, I really don't appreciate getting an attitude from them.<br />
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#5 ... well hey, even guys on a Chevrolet budget like to test drive a Benz now and again, or at least walk around the showroom.<br />
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#6 ... no, I don't complain about the drink prices. I don't have an unlimited amount of money, though, so the more money I spend on drinks means the less money I spend on the dancers. If the ratio is unacceptable, I leave.<br />
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#8 ... why complain? Dancers will be disappointed if they expect all the customers to like them. If they are dancing for any length of time, then they must be making money there from people who DO like their body type (or personality, or smile, or sense of humour, or whatever).<br />
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#9 ... some dancers seem to find it original. Me, I've never learned anything more complex than a heart.<br />
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#12 ... I rather expect everything said in a strip club to be a lie. I'm not there to bare my soul and find a life partner, I'm there for the fantasy. I have no need to lie about my profession, but I don't believe what anyone else says about themselves, their profession, their education, their background, whatever -- dancer OR customer.<br />
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#23 ... no, it's NOT my "right." I *do* expect that, however I respect it if a dancer declines. I am not required to get any more dances from her in that case. Lucky for me there are plenty of dancers who enjoy a little spanking ... etc! :D<br />
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gotta love the differnt points of veiw though ,,,,,,,, I just sum it up like this ,, if you treat me badly or are rude and disrespectful to me ( without paying me extra ) I simply wont dance for you .. simple .. tell me what you like ,, if i m game ill let you know ,,, if im not i ll let you know ,, no games just business you want .. I want ,,, works for me .. <br />
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"Would you like a private dance?" is a much different question than a woman asking, "You wanna suck and fuck?"<br />
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You're probably gonna be laying in bed alone and beating your meat after you leave a club, whether you treat the dancers' like whores or not. But it's my experience that if you treat them nicely, your next club visit is often a lot more pleasant.