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6 years ago
Well noted. An extra "s" changes everything. Make that "desert" and hold the "dessert."
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6 years ago
Or head to the west to Tampa. Lots of strip clubs.
Orlando is a strip club dessert because of overly restrictive policies. However, Orlando does have an active massage parlor scene.
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6 years ago
Flagooner. +1. What ever happened to the concept of innocent until proven guilty. The police should NOT release photos of those who have been charged but not found guilty and the news media should refrain from publishing that information.
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6 years ago
I hope Kraft's legal team hands LEO an embarrassing loss. If this was really about trafficking, why did the investigation drag on for 8 months rather than
saving the victims of trafficking immediately? Why were there no arrests for trafficking? The focus seems to be to embarrass as many customers as possible.
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6 years ago
An even better solution to this problem: Legalize and regulate prostitution in the U.S., thus providing a legal and safe option for horny mongers who would be tempted to travel to Tijuana and also for patrons of illicit massage parlors.
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6 years ago
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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
For those too lazy to take matters into their own hands???
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6 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
You are a sucker for make up.
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6 years ago
+1 to twentyfive:
well said: "It would be nice if you guys condemned this overreach of law enforcement behavior, without regard to politics, but that would require an open mind, and a realization that neither group Conservative or Liberal have a monopoly on hypocrisy.
-1 to Skibum and others who turn everything into polarizing politics, especially when they get the facts wrong. Martin County, where the busts took place, voted for Trump.
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6 years ago
In general, I tend to be vague about dancer names or identity, especially if I mention anything about extras. The only exception if I encounter a ROB, in which case I will mention names as a warning to other customers.
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6 years ago
interesting article!
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6 years ago
You might also consider Scarlett's at Ybor Strip if you are interested in higher mileage that Mons, but sometimes a step down in talent level.
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6 years ago
No delusions here--- but simply an acknowledgement that it is not all that easy to separate coercive employment (trafficking) from legally compensated and consensual work. By the way, I have no interest in defending Kraft-- as others have noted, he made a risky choice and he has the economic means to make "other arrangements." But notice that these "other arrangements" might also be illegal given our very archaic laws on prostitution; what he, and other patrons of the AMP, needs is a legal alternative.
Since you're focusing on AMPs, let's stick with that ethnicity. How do you know for sure that the workers at your favorite Asian restaurant are not being trafficked? Do customers need to search the restaurant premises to make sure that the workers are not living in the restaurant? Should you ask the workers if they have freedom of movement and are being treated well by their employer? Many of the workers cannot speak English so how would the customer know if he/she was supporting a business that was trafficking its workers? The same argument applies to clothing-- do you need to visit the factory in India or Vietnam to make sure that the workers who are producing your garment are being treated fairly. How about the workers who clean you place of business-- what steps do you need to take to insure that they are not being exploited?
Trafficking is immoral and illegal-- no problem there. But the issue is how to prevent and combat it? People to need and want to eat food, including Asian food. People need clothing, People want a clean office environment. And certainly people want (some would say need) sex. So the exclusive focus on the customer (including posting mug shots of men who have been accused, but not convicted of soliciting) is not going to solve the problem -- those needs still exist. And that approach (punishing the consumer/purchasers) has not worked in our country, including prostitution and alcohol (Prohibition)).
How about trying a new approach? Make sure that customers have legal choices (restaurants, clothing manufacturers, office cleaning, and yes, even massage parlors and sexual services) where worker rights are protected by scrutinizing employers and educating the employees about their rights. Under those conditions, then customers who patronize KNOWN illegal businesses over legal businesses can be held accountable.
More importantly, workers can then choose (a first cousin of consent) whether the nature of their employment and their compensation is acceptable. Would some women voluntarily choose to work in a massage parlor or by analogy to provide "extras" in a strip club? Obviously yes; it may well be their best source of income given their options or they may actually enjoy the work. Should over zealous religious fanatics and even misguided feminists (those who fail to recognize women's rights to make informed and consensual decisions about their own bodies) prevent women from making voluntarily choosing this line of work? No! And we should adjust our laws on prostitution to allow those women who are willing to to exchange sexual services for pay, to do so in a safe environment.
By the way, if the law enforcement officers were so concerned about trafficking, why did it take them 8 months to put a stop to this business. This type of delay did little to protect the women who were being trafficked, although it did allow them to collect lots of customer photos to plaster across the internet.
Apologies for the rant!
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6 years ago
Agreed that human trafficking is reprehensible! But exactly how would a customer know if the women working at any establishment were consenting employees versus exploited sex slaves? Of course there are hints, but think about the first time customer.
Until we have legal, safe and regulated prostitution, our country is creating a market for human trafficking. Said another way,w e aren't going to prevent people from seeking out sex (no matter how many sting operations arrest and embarrass customers) so we need to provide a legal and safe alternative that operates under the same legal constraints that would apply to any job where worker safety is protected. That would allow customers (mostly men if history is predictive) to have legal and safe alternatives to pursue their sexual needs and cut off much of the revenue for illegal AMPS.
Of course, I can't wait to see the OSHA guidelines for safe operation of a massage parlor!
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6 years ago
Inflate gate, just like deflate gate but a different impact on the pig skin.
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6 years ago
since when is pouting considered beautiful.
Option 2 for sure.
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6 years ago
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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
Nice body, fake tits?
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6 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
This discussion about traffic cameras reminds me to avoid driving a convertible, especially when chauffeuring a hooker who might be providing the driver some special attention.
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6 years ago
Good to see an acknowledgement that a thriving strip club scene can contribute to a city's financial well being.
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6 years ago
What a great idea: legalize prostitution so that you could offer services in a safe environment for both customers and providers and generate tax revenue at the same time.
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6 years ago
No problem calling AAA to jump my car at a Titty Bar. Just don't want to call my SO.
Actually workers love service calls to a strip club. At an afternoon visit to my favorite club, an electrician was on a step ladder on stage trying to fix the wiring on a faulty light. I went up to him and put a dollar in his tool belt. He, and the other patrons, nearly lost it laughing.
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6 years ago
This thread has me chuckling!
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6 years ago
Reasons?
You are incredibly charming
Your cock is remarkably big and hard
You are a remarkable lover
Oh--- you want SERIOUS hypotheses?
This is one way to insure a repeat customer. Maybe she is satisfied with the income from multiple dances and is naive about upcharges for extras
She gets off on doing it in a risky place-- risky, surreptitious sex is a fantasy for some men and women
Whatever the reason, good for you. Enjoy.
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6 years ago
Best line? I've got disposable income.
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6 years ago
Very helpful advice^^^^
I'll check out the apps for finding short stay, day use hotels.
I also considered using hot tubs as a meeting point, but I don't especially like fucking in hot, bromide-infused chlorinated water.