Robert Kraft Plea Deal
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His legal team requested a non-jury trial for a reason. I suspect that there may be some weakness with the warrants or some other aspect of the case against him. They obtained those warrants based upon supposed suspicion of human trafficking, but nobody who was arrested has been charged with that crime. Between the headaches that any admission of guilt would cause for him with the NFL Commissioner's office and the indignities that this imposes upon him, he may decide to go to the mat with this.
saving the victims of trafficking immediately? Why were there no arrests for trafficking? The focus seems to be to embarrass as many customers as possible.
He should just get this behind him as quick as possible and try to minimize the risk that the tape gets made public.
No, he should do what I say he should do.
Making a statement like that takes the fun out of it.
Are you saying that the offer of a plea deal is intimidation? How exactly does that work? “You better agree and get no conviction on your record otherwise we’ll do what we usually do when we arrest and charge someone and make you stand trial where you can put your OJ dream team up against our small town civil servant lawyers!”
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I'm not sure he's going to take the deal. The plea deal requires him to admit that he would have been found guilty if this went to trial. It also requires 100 hours of community service and being subjected to having STD testing results submitted for review.
His legal team requested a non-jury trial for a reason. I suspect that there may be some weakness with the warrants or some other aspect of the case against him. They obtained those warrants based upon supposed suspicion of human trafficking, but nobody who was arrested has been charged with that crime. Between the headaches that any admission of guilt would cause for him with the NFL Commissioner's office and the indignities that this imposes upon him, he may decide to go to the mat with this.
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No way he goes to trial. First, he fucking did it (twice). He paid a woman for sex and they have it on video (twice). Second, does he want this to stretch out and get more publicity and more facts into the public domain? Fuck no. As for the implications of the NFL punishment? That’s a done deal. The punishment is the same if he takes a deal, is found guilty or is found innocent. It’s some meaningless suspension for him and some fine that means nothing to him. Big deal.
Chances that he takes the deal are even with he chances he goes to trial are even. Each about 10%.
The world needs more horny 77-year-olds. He is my hero. I can only hope to be seeking young pussy and laying pipe at that age.
Of course, if I'm a billionaire, I'm having someone from my posse bring Tiffany and Amber to my crib (hell, throw in Bambi and Nikki, too), and not taking the ridiculous risk of frequenting an AMP or any other such place where I'd be easily recognized.
But that's neither here nor there.
You go, Bobby!
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"I am truly sorry," Kraft said in a statement Saturday. "I know I have hurt and disappointed my family, my close friends, my co-workers, our fans and many others who rightfully hold me to a higher standard."
I have to say it has been amusing to watch all the Patriots fans rush to defend him. Some of these guys would suck Brady's cock and insist it wasn't gay.
Escorts are far more riskier than AMPs no matter how rich a dude is. I would still go to AMP's (albiet in Bangkok) if I was a billionaire.
Can’t a guy get a piece of ass these days without some shithead waving the Bible in his face?
I still maintain his only mistake was going about it the wrong way. Can you imagine this guy in seeking arrangement. He could buy somebody a house or pay for their entire college tuition for a piece. You mean to tell me, babes wouldn’t be lining up for that offer?
I ask because I don't think he did anything morally wrong and I also believe that he should fight this tooth and nail. If you want to hate yourself for what you do then so be it, but don't expect many around here to subscribe to your belief that he owes anyone an apology. Also, if you have information on any former Patriot who got the axe for getting his dick wet with a paid companion then please let us know, because I've been a lifelong fan and I can't remember one.
Kraft got caught. After weeks of putting up a fight he sees the writing on the wall and pragmatically offered an apology hoping to minimize ramifications for his actions.
Y'all think he should puff out his chest and shout from the rooftops, "Yeah, I paid a old asian whore to jack me off and I do it all the time and I'm going to keep doing it. I don't give a fuck what you repressed bible thumpers think. The laws are stupid. We're consenting adults and me paying her to get me off is none of your business. The man can't keep me down."
Talk about being hypocritical. You may feel macho saying you wouldn't have apologized for anything. You aren't in Kraft's position so you don't know what the fuck you'd do. Saying an apology wasn't necessary is technically true, but if you were in Kraft's shoes either you would do the same thing or you're dumber than the other retards that regularly post here.
Dugan and Jap, you keep making this about a moral high horse. It’s not that at all. I see it as almost 100% a business decision, aside from the girlfriend issue. His apology is for the NFL. They take away teams. They suspend owners. He doesn’t want that and is expected to apologize.
Rick, you posted in Rev’a thread about hiding in the shadows from a coworker that you have to protect your reputation. For Kraft, that horse has left the barn but he can still mitigate the damage. The apology is part of it and not surprising at all.
Now I will agree with that his mea culpa statement was a business decision to appease those who wish to impose their morality upon others. But I doubt that it was as sincere as it sounded and it is ridiculous hypocrisy for anyone who does this himself to take the position that an apology was necessary for any real reason outside of the BS business posturing.
Be honest, at least to yourself.
If anyone believes sincerity in any of these "apologies" (Sex crimes, domestic violence, gambling, drug use,...) they are a complete sap and I have beachfront propery in Kansas to sell you. All they mean is that they are sorry and embarrassed that they got caught and are doing whatever they think will lessen the impact, whether it be punishment or public perception.
Call me cynical if you like, but I just call it as I see it.
No, I was just stating fact. Yes, he may plead it down or if tried he might be found not guilty because of a problem with the warrant. Without expressing an opinion on whether the law is right or wrong, the fact is paying for sex is a crime. He paid for sex and committed a crime (twice). That’s just fact.
I’ve not expressed any judgment on the morals of what he did. Maybe I implied some judgment by saying he owed an apology? I tend to think about it in more practical terms. You screw up, you apologize.
I did get a laugh over picturing myself jerking off whilst seated on a high horse with my mom in he room. Kudos for those images.
And so was fucking another guy in the ass until 2003 in a number of states, when the Supreme Court struck down state sodomy laws. Should we have been prosecuting those too? The law is the law, right?
Claiming that he "screwed up" is implying that what he did was wrong to being with, as too were your other stark word choices. Getting caught isn't "screwing up" if the underlying "crime" is somethign that shouldn't be criminal, but rather just unlucky. Thank goodness LE does not enforce certain other morality laws as vigorously as it in enforces prostitution laws.
I have to say that your passive aggressive posting on this is becoming tiresome. Instead of talking out of your mangina, just say what you really think already. You're clearly trying to walk a high wire where you condemn him for doing something wrong, but are trying to do it in a way as to not piss off other tusclers. Sack up already and just spit it out.
This conversation has nothing to do with whether the law should exist or be prosecuted. It is about whether he was wrong to apologize.
It seems you are just digging in your heels to try to maintain a more macho, enlightened, sexually liberated position just for the fuck of it.
If that guy in the example you stated was married when he got busted ass fucking some guy, he would probably apologize to his wife. Probably not because he did it but because he got caught.
He never condemned anyone for doing anything wrong. He simply said that he understands why he apologized and said that it was the prudent thing to do.
Get off the fucking soapbox.
Jimmy is the "He" I was referring to there.
Besides that, I think that Jimmy's mangina can speak for itself, no?. ;)
Of course he can, but I love stirring the pot.
I also love this gem from you: “Flag, "You screw up, you apologize" looks awfully judgmental to me. It also contradicted his earlier position about an apology being necessary solely for business reasons.”
Here’s what I wrote: “Dugan and Jap, you keep making this about a moral high horse. It’s not that at all. I see it as almost 100% a business decision, aside from the girlfriend issue. ”
Your reading comprehension sucks ass. You’re arguing with yourself at this point since you refuse to believe me when I tell you directly I’m not passing judgment.