Comments by crizgolfer (page 2)

Stage presence is one of the first things that catch my interest in a dancer. How does she move? Does she make a connection with the audience? Does she smile? These things make a BIG difference to me. The dull ones that sway and act bored. They don't make much off me.

Thanks for the info. I had decided on checking out Jiggles. Seemed like the best contact club in the Portland area. I still may make a night run up to Seattle at some point during the trip. I was thinking of making a visit to Rick's. I was not aware of Honey's but will look into it. If you wre to choose between the two which would it be?

Minnow...thanks for the info. I will be overnighting in Portland in order to catch an early flight on a Sunday (I just realized it will be Super Bowl Sunday). I will be working about halfway between Portland and Seattle (my flights have been booked into Portland). After reading the reviews for Portland I thought maybe an evening trip to Seattle may be in store. The guy I will be working with would probably be up for a roadtrip some night. Rick's looked interesting. Anyone else out there have any more recent experience with that particular club? I am leaning toward a road trip into Seattle one night and then also a stop at some club in Portland the night before my flight out. I don't expect every club to be like "The Lodge" in dancer quality...what can I say? I was like a kid in a candy store there. Each time I picked out a gorgeous girl...the next one came along and she was even more gorgeous...hehehe...and they were quite "playful" also...

I started looking at the Seattle area also (just in case I can sneak away for an evening). I will be working about midway between Seattle and Portland. How about the Seattle area. Rick's looks interesting. Anyone been to any of the Seattle clubs?

Trojanreg...I relate to what you said here a lot. The one dancer I have spent the most money on (of all dancers ever) never asked me for money, never asked me for a dance, and never asked me for a drink. She would greet me as soon as I arrived and we would hang out until I left. I would ask for dances when I wanted them and offer her drinks whenever she did not have one. I consistently spent more money on her than all other dancers combined. It had little to do with her looks (although I found her very pretty). It had everything to do with how much fun I had when I was with her.

I guess if I walk onto a car lot I expect the car salesman will try and sell me a car. He will put the best light on his product that he can (he may even fib a bit). I assume a stipper will do the same in a club. Caveat Emptor!

Evilcyn...You say that you make "a little less over all" than the dancers that use mind games. You also state that you have had some regulars for close to 10 years. Out of curiosity. Even if you do not make as many "big hits" as some dancers do you find that your earnings have been more consistent over the years due to your approach?

I was in a club in my travels one time and found an absolutely fantastic dancer (according to my standards). I went to that club a few times while in town just to see her. She was ATF material in my book. She was exactly what I like in a woman (looks & personality). I travelled back to that location a few months later and was excited to think I could see this dancer again. This time looking to probe into her a bit more (see if I could pull dow the SS shield). Anyway, I go into the club and ask a dancer if my fave is there. I am told that she is not dancing right now as she had knee surgery. I was crushed. It took a good 10 minutes to find another dancer....and she was exactly what I like in a woman. ;-)

Tessie, I will star by saying that your approach is very reasonable. I would have no issues with it. As for the pouncing part, well, it depends on my mood. Generally, I do not mind a dancer greeting me as soon as I enter the club. I will not be ready to buy dances at that time, so if it is a "Hey, wanna dance?" approach, then this would not earn points with me. If you joined me right away and were willing to sit and talk (maybe have a drink) and let me get settled (maybe helped me do some stage tipping), then I would consider that an enjoyable start to the evening and earn you some points in my book. It may even pay off for you as the night goes on. If you hit me up for a dance in the first 5 minutes then I would most likely decline at that time. That may have nothing to do with your "hotness" rating. Just not ready. The hand waving you speak of seems a bit rude. I don't know though as this is not something I normally do.

I sure hope there is no correlation, or my beloved Packers will be in real trouble.

I was in Dallas a few weeks ago. I had a REALLY good time.

No...sorry...

The first night I met one particular dancer we had a real nice conversation. I did not see her again for about two months. She remembered the conversation...details and all. That was a very good sign for me.

CG...we are not headed the wrong direction. We are already there and have been for quite some time. Government was only suppose to tax for basic revenue needs. This obviously has not been the case for many years. Also, there is the little issue I have with taxing for purpose of social engineering. I don't recall where this is allowed (from a consitutional perspective).

"You look like Michael Douglass....but younger..." Aaaaahhh...thanks sweetheart...

CG...I agree on the term ATF. I use it as a catch all for the "special" ones. I have a tendency to think of dancers on different levels. Level 1 girls would be the ATFs. Level 2 would be the ones I like, but something is missing. If no level 1 girl is around, then a level 2 will do just fine.

Usually a dancer that gets to an "ATF" status with me is one that has a personality that meshes with mine. It is a given that I find her sexy to look at, but there are usually many dancers in a given club that are nice to look at. It is the personality that makes a difference. As an example, one ATF that I have not seen in a while and miss to a certain extent is not my normal type. Granted she is a very nice looking young lady, but she was only 19 years old at the time. I normally am attracted to women a bit older than that. What caught me about her is that we had the same sense of humor and playfulness. I always had fun just hanging out with her. Plus, she picked up on me real quick. In our time together she never once asked me for a dance or money. She just went with the flow. She always knew I would take care of her before the night was over.

Then there are those that don't feel the need to have a lasting relationship, so we look for interesting women. "Nice" or "bad" means little as we are looking for "interesting" and "fun." Sure, if I meet a woman that blows me away, then I will go with the flow. To date this has not happenned. I personally enjoy dating a variety and lounging in strip clubs. Dating and strip clubs are two different things (IMO)...although sometimes the strip club thing does turn into dating. This generally gets "interesting." Yes, I like "interesting."

Aaaaahhhh....yes...the land of the "free"...

Just give a club a try. If the dancers are as "tired" as some of the reviews make them see...then that may be your chance to bank.

Wondergrl5...look at it this way. You came out pretty strong and telling us what most of us want to hear. It was not so much about the enjoying dancing part. It was more the open emphasis on wanting to be an "extras" girl (at least it was for me). I was/am skeptical. It appeared that it could be trollish in nature. Just hang out for a while and if everything checks out over time then everyone will start believing you. I assure you that none of the guys here are in the habit of running dancers off the site. We enjoy their input an interaction. If you are truly what you say you are then soon enough you will be very popular here.

BG...relax a little. I never intended anything I wrote to bring you down. I cannot possibly list the number of times I have screwed up. I cannot list the number of failures I have had in my life. Thing is just stay focused on what you want. Pick a goal and keep going. Start working on the LSAT again if that is really what you want. You can get there. Life is not easy for anyone. Succeeding (at whatever) is filled with failures along the way. Dude, just fucking get back up and start going again. As for relationships with women. I am not one to give advice on a lasting relationship. I have not had one to this point as I am divorced. I have also not met the one that will hold my attention forever. Who knows? Maybe that is yet another flaw in me. BG...you seem like a bright guy. I think you can probably accomplish anything you want with the right attitude. I think that the only thing that is blocking you is YOU. Think about the type of woman you want. What type of man do you think you would have to be in order to have a woman like that? Be honest in this thought and not bitter. Once you have that picture in your mind, then ask yourself...Can I become that man?

Aaaahhh...The Poconos....I have not been out there since last May. Very beautiful....but kind of in the middle of nowhere.

Oh...your eagerness will make you a very successful dancer.