Nice guys finish last - even in strip clubs
Monday, December 17, 2007 1:25 PM
This post hits a grand slam on this issue, as posted 11-23-07 by "xdamage" on the Blue side (of the pink site) from the very lengthy "re: women" thread - in response to a request by "Shot" to explain: what inspires the behavior of nice guys (white knights) as it relates to females, particularly considering that such behavior is even less reliable when dealing with mercenary-like women such as strippers.
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I've been the white knight in my younger days. What inspires it? Many things I guess.
But I suppose the main thing is not really understanding women, seeing only the superficial behaviors and playing to them. I guess you could think of it like being a good pet. Act extra nice and you get petted for being nice. So you think, okay I'll go on being extremely nice and agreeable, and do "nice" things.
Of course at the time it didn't occur to me that hundreds of times later, there is a reason I'm always ending up as the "friend", and the other guy who is not so agreeable is the lover. It didn't even occur to me, maybe there is something wrong with me. I would think there is something wrong with her, for choosing "the jerk", and write her off as another confused woman.
In retrospect later, it's now blatantly obvious there really was something wrong with me for acting more like a pet then a man.
Maybe it stems from our current social trends, or mothers who are over mother their kids, or too many messages that say men should act like women or see them as "identical" to themselves, but whatever the reasons, a lot of guys seem to be walking around who pride themselves on being "nice" and "agreeable" to women vs just being themselves, being honest, and not worrying that every woman likes them.
The other part of it is that I now see that woman themselves don't always quite know what it is they are looking for in a man. This is not a diss. The same applies to men. What people really want is often deep seated in their biology, but what they think they want doesn't always match what is really driving them.
Therefore if you simply act in the ways that you are told they want you to act, more often then not, you find that they see you again as more of a pet, a friend, in a sense, boring and predictable, but nothing happens emotionally.
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