Comments by herbtcat

Thanks for sharing. You are learning quickly, young Padawan. The Force is with you... a little. After 40+ years of going to clubs in the Valley (and around the world), I'm not one to overspend on a VIP. Given the current prices at other nearby clubs (SR, DVNH, Synn, Xposed), $100 for a 15-min VIP is twice the price it was up to 2015 or so, but still generally better than the others. Now getting a LDK dance in VIP (i.e.: achieving "sploogination") even with her working OTP generally calls for a tip greater than $40. Either she really liked you (doubtful - not because you are not a "nice guy" but because she's not there to make friends), or she was disappointed in your tip but choose not to call you out for being cheap. I'd have kicked in at least $50...up to $80-$100 if you got HE with your zipper down, and over a hundy+ if you got more. Starting back in the 90's up to pre-covid, I would regularly get VHM and UHM at this club in the curtained booths in the back. Post-covid, I find that working a dancer for OTC gets better results - though be prepared to drop $400-$500.

Don't know why this review was approved. Please DO NOT mention dance names in connection with any EXTRA activities. Anyone can access these reviews if they want to, including LE, boyfriends and cub managers. If a paid/VIP member wants to ask for names, they can DM you to ask and you can then consider if you want to share. Let's help these dancers we love so much stay employed (and out of jail). Calling out stripperlover777, Ekid, JC2003, c1958s, Context22, 59, goldeneagles9 for approving as is. -You all know better!

Just got back from a one-month trip to Angeles City, Philippines. Had a total of 14 sessions across 9 bar girls (aged 19 to 31) including one threesome with two 20-year-old spinners. No condoms were hurt or abused in the making of this adventure. Total spend, including Business Class airfare: $12,500. Now what shall I do with the remaining $7,500? That's all going to be shared across my 4 current Sugar Babies, thank you.

Pretty sure Muddy typed that post while sitting in a VIP booth... and he did NOT type it with his hands..... Just saying.

Decided to do a recon/verification roll to SYNN NH based on this review. The loss of the VIP booth curtains is a tragedy. And as this is my #1 goto club in the Valley, I was not happy with the idea of losing it as a best-in-area location. I'm happy to confirm the loss of the curtains and to confirm that the dancers are no longer allowed to dim the lights in the VIP booth. Why am I happy? Because I'm also reporting that the loss of these ALMOST distracted from my FS VIP session. No names, because, we don't do that. I'll just say she sat with me right after I got my bottle of water and immediately let me know that she was interested in seeing and using my dick. We worked out the details and the tip (in addition to the $180 half-hour) and off we went. Before we entered the booth, she stopped by the podium by the regular dance area and whispered something to attendant. I assume she has worked out something with him and was letting him know he should "be cool." While we were in the booth - lights on, no curtain - another dancer came by with a PL from another booth followed by the attendant a few moments later. Everyone who passed by made a deliberate choice to not look into my booth. Which means they deliberately missed seeing Junior Kat getting engulfed by the dancer. So, if you know how to talk the talk with a suitable dancer before going to VIP, AND you are daring enough, fun is still available.

You are making this way too complicated. If you want or need the bouncer/host/manager to be "flexible" with the rules about time or activities in the VIP, tip them $20 and thank them for their assistance. Then go fuck your brains out... because if you are agreeing to $500, $600, $700+ tips to the dancer, she'd better be willing to go all the way.

Bravo. Thanks for the contribution.

Somewhat disturbing that The Onion, a full-blown satire site, felt it was a politically-correct requirement to call them "Strip Club Performers" rather than "strippers," or "dancers" or "handjob engineers," or "garage band girlfriends," "SMF Members" (SMF=Single Mothers Fund), or "Splooge Dodgers,'... Missed opportunity?

Looks like you have optimized the format for mobile devices. Looks good on my iPhone 13 Pro. But on my PC's 32-inch monitor, not so good, as all the content lives in the middle 3rd of my screen.

@Rickdugan I cannot stress this strongly enough: Run away from this now. Do not look back. Do not pass go. Do not let her collect your $200. There is no way this will end well for you. Yes, you may get to hit that once (that's the bait), maybe twice (that's her setting the hook), before the problems start. But you will soon find yourself being asked to pay for her kids, her rent, her lawyer and her medical bills after, in a moment of weakness, she fucks her ex and he beats her up. It will start small: "Hey babe, we're at the mall and I want to get my kids some lunch... can you shoot me $20 please!" (This may or may not include a titty pic.) Next: It will be a small emergency bill like a minor car repair or a big phone bill and she will promise some additional special fun asap. Then the big score: "Oh I need $10,000 to pay my attorney or I might lose my kids! Please! I'll give it up bareback for a full week if you help me, Daddy!" Be assured that once you send that $10k, she will ghost you - because her attorney is actually getting that week of bareback sex. How do I KNKOW this will happen? How do you think I know...? There will ALWAYS be more SB's to find. Always.

Funniest: A stripper left her BF's (who I did not know, of course) birthday present in my guest bathroom. It was a box of Cuban cigars. When I contacted her about 2 days later, she told me to keep them because she had just dumped him for cheating on her with another stripper from the same club (Oh the irony!). About 2 months later I took the remaining 5 cigars I still had to a buddy's "Guys night" gathering featuring steaks, scotch and cigars. One of the attendees was a guy I had not met before. When I dropped the last Cuban in his hands he whistled and told me how much he loves that brand (Cohiba of course). It turns out he hasn't had one in a while because his source was his stripper ex-girlfriend. I just smiled, fired up my lighter for him and changed the subject. :P Worst: A sugar baby left something in the trash can in my guest bathroom the day after my bi-weekly service cleaned my house. About a week later I had a different SB over and after using the loo, she asked me if I was seeing anyone else. "Hey! I'm only seeing you >right now<, Babe." Not really a lie - if you define "right now" as within the last 24 hours. LOL Then she asked me why there was a used tampon in the trash can. So yes, she set me up. But after a millisecond pause, I told her it must have been my real estate agent who was listing one of my rental properties (as well as giving me the occasional HJ if I take her out for sushi - yes, I have a complicated, but rich, life). The moral of these stories: Clean your fucking bathrooms and empty the trash after she leaves.

From the article: ""Their hands are somewhat handcuffed," said Pierre-Antoine." The must have edited out the next line: "And handcuffing usually costs an extra $30." :P

Most of the Deja Vu clubs I've been to, at least in Los Angeles, have a spinning pole placed up front on the main stage. The Vu in North Hollywood also had (taken out a while back) a spinning pole in the outdoor smoking area. I suppose the spinners enable more creative pole tricks. But like you, I rarely sport a chub based on how fast a dancer can flail her goldfish-tank heels through the air. (Yes, clear stripper boots with fake goldfish in the heel is a real thing - sadly.) How significant are these poles? I can't think of a single club review that bothered to mention whether the stage pole spins or was static.

I too live mostly in the sugar world, though I still spend a fair amount of time/money in my favorite clubs not to mention hiring pros, especially porn stars, from time to time. (Yes, I have pics! No, I won't share.) I have skimmed through reddit many times looking for decent discussions on sugaring and clubs. Each time I generally only find pure bullshit advice provided by so-called experienced SB's and strippers who claim they make thousands per week from guys that are really just pathetic simps. There may be some rich simps out there who willingly drop 4-digit amounts on a women in hopes they MAY get to smell their dirty socks. But that is FinDom, not sugaring or stripping. The truth about sugar relationships and lap dances/VIP's is very different than FinDom. So no, I don't use reddit for any intel about Strip clubs or sugaring. Total waste of time.

I don't drink in most clubs. In my home state (California) nude clubs can't serve booze. If I'm in a place where not ordering booze makes me look like a cop, I'll get a beer and nurse it until the paint wears off the bottle. Not knocking any PL's who do drink in a club (or who pregame), but for me, it makes no sense to induce blurry vision in a place where I want to look at naked babes. IMO, drunk dancers are to be avoided at all times. Yes, you MAY get offered a spontaneous BJ, but it's not likely she will actually deliver it - because she is - well - drunk.

@drewcarepnw well done! You've scored a win for Stripper OTC. Some thoughts on going forward: 1. When negotiating any future meets with her, try to stay away from activity-level pricing. Focus on time and benefits instead. And you can manage per-meet pricing inflation by proposing how more meets over time = more financial help for her. For example: instead of "add $100 for FS" tell her you'd like to be able to see her more often so you can both be happy. Tell her that to make that easy, you'd like to let whatever activity can happen just happen, as long as there is mutual consent. If you can shape the conversation that way, you avoid the upcharges and eventually, as her comfort and trust grow, she will just add in more fun activity naturally. Hint: Make a point of getting her off (with DATY) in EVERY meet and do it before you even consider your climax. The cash will bring her to the next meet. The orgasms will bring her back. If you can get her to accept, say $600-$650 a month (versus $450 now), split between 2 meets, she may see that as a big enough win to go for it. If she enjoys her time with you, it won't seem like twice the work, but twice the fun for more cash. A win-win. 2. Make a point of pre-identifying 2-4 hotel resources that are consistently available. As someone suggested use app like "Day Use" to find locations that offer short term rentals (like from 11:00 am to 4:00 pm). Do the same for restaurants around these hotels so you can easily flex up to take her to dinner when appropriate. If this sounds like I'm suggesting you treat her more like a sugar baby than a hooker, that's because I am. She may have been willing to provide extras in the club to trusted PL's (that's you!), but (in her mind) she never wanted to cross the line into full escorting. So make this about a FWB relationship and reap the rewards of hot friend who like to fuck for fun and profit, rather than a hooker trying to maximize pay while minimizing services delivered to random tricks.

I've never heard of any of the shows mentioned, and that makes me happy. I stopped watching reality shows a long time ago...because they are based on anything BUT reality. I don't know who any of the displaced hosts are (except Trump who I already despised before Apprentice and Dave Navarro because he's, well, Dave Navarro). These are not robots - they are props. Robots are coming and will replace humans in dangerous or menial roles. Sex robots are also coming (pun intended), and I am much more interested in them. Actually, they are already here and can be acquired for $4,000-$12,000 USD. No, I do not own one and will not buy one - yet. If the entire "reality show" genre disappeared today, the "cast" members would just keep trying to collect and monetize IG followers. And producers would create the next wave of cheap, quasi-porn Gex-X focused programming - probably about adult games available through Patreon and Steam.

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Useless, generic blather. Meaningless generalities. It's about what I expect from politicians, not true mongers. Key problem: If she is not "promiscuous in (her) personal life," wtf are you dating her?

If you aren't getting sex from her when you give her money, you are not a Sugar Daddy, you are a simp. You might as well call her a FinDom, buy her some whips she can use to flog your balls, then tip her a grand for the sacrifice she made by paying attention to you. (See how stupid that sounds? Now don't be that stupid.) I've had SB's I met in strip clubs before Seeking was just a wild idea in Brandon Wade's hind-brain. We didn't call it sugaring then. We called it "I'm gong to bang that hot stripper in my apartment again to avoid splooging extra VIP fees on the club owners."

Posters should be able to delete a post or comment. Shit happens, people may not originally write or edit as "gracefully" as they should. But I suggest when something is deleted you leave a notice/marker stating there was a deletion. For example: "This post/comment was deleted by it's author, HerbTCat."

Don't have any recent (post-COVID) 1st-hand knowledge, but I expect the most likely clubs offering on-the-floor dances will be bikini clubs. Ex: Sunny's Saloon in the Valley.

After I have gone to great lengths to find, buy and wear pants that are less than 4 molecules thick (if only I had those!) I would be extremely upset to see a dancer throw down a cloth barrier in my lap that is guaranteed to deny me any sensations from her grinding. Might as well stay home and watch MILF porn! Unless... Unless she intends to slide her hands under the blanket and get access to goods without the VIP cameras seeing the action. Then I'm cool with it. I've encountered some dancers over the years who use some type of cover (towel, bandana, cloth napkin, etc.). They are almost always the dancers who won't even contemplate extras. In fact, they typically germophobic dancers who fear I will "finish" without warning them. Basically, they just hate the idea of touching jizz. Now that is their prerogative and custies must respect that. But it's my prerogative to decline the dance and move on. Regarding dancers who carry hand sanitizer (at least pre-Covid), I've had some amazing and unexpected extra services delivered by many who just unzipped me, sprayed, wiped, and went to work. Good times.

The exorbitant amount notwithstanding, here's one way to let her know, and the sooner the, better. "Hey babe, it seems like you've been working hard today and I'm glad I can help. You might want to take a few minutes to freshen up though. Ok to leave the clock running if you can come back in a few minutes. Or take your time and let's start over when you are ready." Hopefully she will appreciate it and will clean herself up then do a great job getting you messy in the best way! But if nothing else, she will respect your candor.

@rickdugan, Welcome to my world. Hope you enjoy it. My current SB rotation includes: 1. 26 year-old Latina studying to be a nurse 2. 35 year-old former DVNH stripper who got her real estate license 3. 20 year old Viet spinner in college to be a digital artist 4. 25 year old A-list porn star who lives in FL and comes to LA for shoots and to see me 5. 31 year old A-List porn star who lives outside of LA and also comes to LA for shoots and to see me They are all no-drama, high-energy and great in bed. I probably went through 70+ 1st meet & greets to get to these. And I'm always looking for backups and replacements since even the best arrangements eventually end. Worth it? Hell yes!