The song and dance some of these SA/OTC girls need
rickdugan
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"I am a single mother who fled a very abusive relationship. I'm currently in (4) separate court cases with my abuser because he is my children's father. I'm looking for someone who is very generous financially and is willing to provide me with more financial help in order to save my children, vs waste their money on prostitutes who will spend hard earned money on drugs or handbags."
Now to be clear, she knows that I am looking for "intimacy" as part of the arrangement. So her idea is for us to meet for drinks and see if we click before she decides. She's not asking for any money for the meet n greet. If she is to be believed, she hasn't met with anyone yet and is very nervous, though we all know how that goes.
So of course let me translate. She doesn't want to feel like a prostitute, so part of how she's convinced herself that she's not is that she's using the money to pay a lawyer for her custody fight. She will also only do it if a guy gives off a good vibe and isn't terribly repulsive. Because after all, prostitutes are girls who will fuck anybody and blow their money on drugs, right? đ
So here's how it will go. We will meet for drinks, I will be my normal fun charming self and eventually we'll be off to the hotel. Along the way, she'll of course require affirmation from me. I'll tell her that, as a Dad myself, I have crazy respect for what she's doing for her kids. I'll also make it clear that she is definitely not a prostitute and if I wanted that kind of girl, I wouldn't be with someone like her. Then I'm going to have farmyard sex with her and then pay her. As the event winds down, she'll probably need one more round of affirmation from me, along with some compliments about how wonderful it was to go out she is.
The shit we do to see these girls, lol.
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Shut it Icee Zebra.
My brother from a hairless ape mother is simply explaining the respect he has for this girl. You may not realize that wantinâ to rickbang a sexy female doesnât preclude treating her as valued.
You be you brother rick. This lion has your back. ROAR!!!
And that was only a small snippet, lmao.
But at the end of the day, why do I care what kind of hustle she's using if I'm getting what I want out of it? If this ends up being some game to try to get the money without the payoff on her end, then she's going to leave very disappointed and all it will cost me is a couple of drinks and a little bit of time. If she goes through with it then I'll get laid, she'll get paid and then we go on our ways.
Once again, if she is to be believed, she told me that she went through that explanation because some of the guys she has spoken with seem to want to know how she intends to spend it. I told her that I appreciated the explanation but, if we move forward, any money I give her is hers to spend as she sees fit. Of course the only way that happens if it is mutually beneficial.
Easy peasy.
Compared to a prostitute doing it to help her children. Notice she didn't use the P-word referring to herself.
When one encounters this affliction in a girl he wishes to pay to stick things into, IME the best course of action is to lean into the storyline. Now of course a purist may wish to challenge these beliefs, but if he chooses to do so then he'd better be certain that proving her wrong is more important to him than getting laid. đ
Like I said, do you man, and have a good time.
I cannot stress this strongly enough: Run away from this now. Do not look back. Do not pass go. Do not let her collect your $200.
There is no way this will end well for you. Yes, you may get to hit that once (that's the bait), maybe twice (that's her setting the hook), before the problems start. But you will soon find yourself being asked to pay for her kids, her rent, her lawyer and her medical bills after, in a moment of weakness, she fucks her ex and he beats her up. It will start small: "Hey babe, we're at the mall and I want to get my kids some lunch... can you shoot me $20 please!" (This may or may not include a titty pic.) Next: It will be a small emergency bill like a minor car repair or a big phone bill and she will promise some additional special fun asap. Then the big score: "Oh I need $10,000 to pay my attorney or I might lose my kids! Please! I'll give it up bareback for a full week if you help me, Daddy!"
Be assured that once you send that $10k, she will ghost you - because her attorney is actually getting that week of bareback sex.
How do I KNKOW this will happen? How do you think I know...?
There will ALWAYS be more SB's to find. Always.
I don't preemptively avoid a girl because I think she's likely to ask for money at some point. Doing so would drastically reduce the pool of potentials to the point where the entire enterprise would be futile.
But, like with anything OTC-related, the ability to easily disengage requires a level of emotional detachment. Guys who tend to get fucked up in the head when they get a bit o good pussy and/or spend time with these girls in faux romantic situations should think twice about doing some of these things. For a guy like that, I actually agree with the warning.
2. Assuming her situation is true, itâs a sure bet that the childrenâs father will at some point learn of your existence. Whether it gets thrown in his face, or he starts investigating where sheâs getting money from, he will find out. At that point you may be dealing with a very angry ex-husband to be, or perhaps you get to be involved in her legal woes. Do you really want that?
Stay away. The juice ainât worth the squeeze.
Also, anybody with 4 court cases is litigious and to be avoided. Then again youâre probably pretty good at navigating this stuff.
"Drew, why do you always come into a thread that Icee gets properly disciplined in" âŚthis is your opinion. You copying and pasting the same nonsense post over and over isnât discipline. Itâs just you copying and pasting a post. Neither informative nor useful. Kind of childish. Definitely not discipline and definitely not discouraging anything, in case you havenât been paying attention.
â (why do you) engage with her in a way that gives her an easy springboard back in?â Icey can reply to whomever with whatever he wants, I neither give nor withhold the power of response. Why do I engage with Icey? The same reason I engage with anyone. They make a point, I reply with some relevant (to me) point, as I would in any forum. Itâs a free country, bro.
âShe got slapped down because she behaved like a silly troll and deserved it. Don't legitimize her by engaging in a discussion which will inevitably bring us back full circle to a silly girl troll comment.â Fuck that. If you donât want to engage in discussion, you are free to ignore Icey, me, or anyone else you donât like. Donât waste your time telling me who to and not to engage with, Iâm not going to listen. BTW, your smackdown is not nearly as devastating as you imagine.
And for Godâs sake, stop calling Icey âherâ. Itâs middle-school level behavior. We get it, you donât like him. Why donât you answer a REAL question instead of whining about Icey, like the one I posed to you?
Fuck that. Any OTC I ever did was after getting to know the girl ITC. Granted, not a guarantee that you'll be safe, but 20x better than a random on-line hook-up.
Rick, the situation you described, if that was me I'd be EXPECTING some goon with a fucking Uzi to bust through the door before I even got my dick out.
Other than that, your plan to use empathy and well-timed affirmation sounds spot on brother!
I've never even heard of that lol. Was it some direct to video soft core before those two revived their careers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derailed_(âŚ
Maybe she's a medical anomaly who reminds the lucky guy she's banging why all those babies got made?
Strip clubs maintain that wall better. Even there you can run into problems. One time a stripper boyfriend told me to stop staring at his girlfriend while I was in the strip club as a customer, and she was there as a stripper. She immediately yelled at him to stop it. When the other strippers in the club heard about it, they came over and apologized to me. Many strip clubs ban stripper boyfriends. In my view that is a good idea. Even if they don't bother the customers, they can still get in quarrels with their stripper girlfriends. My oldest regular just got fired because her boyfriend was coming in the club and causing problems.
Damn straight Wallape. ROAR!!!
And now for a copy and paste moment...
No, I'm calling Icee a girl because she's actually a girl. Not just any girl either, but one filled with a great deal of resentment. It's obvious not only from the angry tonal quality of her posts when discussing hookers and Johns, but only a girl could fuck up a male pimp character so badly.
As an added bonus, I was only subjected to one affirmation moment, which was easily handled with a couple of stock assurances I keep ready to roll for these same moments with OTC stripper friends.
With all of that said, I also sensed that some of you were right about a bigger ask lurking around the corner. So I'll just play future meetups by ear and be ready to hit EJECT when needed.
That prick is not sincere about anything ever, she kvells when she gets attention
This place would be better if that troll was gone.
Rick knows he trolls by repeating the same inane comments. He does it when his fragile ego gets hurt because the truth gets told. It fucks with his delusions.
Rick you can call me whatever you want in your delusional little brain. You don't even believe it you're just trolling. But you're a sick fuck who brags about being a great family man while living a double life preying on vulnerable women and pretending they're not really desperate hookers. SJG would be proud.
We're all entitled to own definitions of fun, as well as discourse. As ever, we have the choice to ignore him or even push the ignore button. Trying to control who someone else engages with on a chat forum because you (or I or Rick) don't approve isn't just intrusive or pointless, it's a flex. I.e. instead of doing the simple things to avoid a troll, it's an attempt to bend others to one's own methods and ultimately their will.
And they won't put me on ignore coz their reason for being here is trolling.
They've proven my point. They get butthurt by reality so they derail the thread with their whining and trolling
Btw this whole conversation is ludicrous given that you first came on here pretending to be a pimp who was selling his crack ho GF's ass out the back door. Seriously now honey. But I digress.
You are free to believe that any woman who has a financial needs is utterly incapable of making her own informed decision, but I do not. We all work for money, whatever the job. Don't belittle others who are willing to make different choices than you by treating them as helpless victims. It's absurdly condescending and more than a little misogynistic, or at least it would be if you were actually a guy. Shame on you.
That's the very paternalistic view that strippers all over the country are forced to constantly battle as others try to take away their choices under the guise of "helping" them. Be better than that.
[New copy and paste post for his "predator" trolling]
We all know he never intended to meet and he had the opportunity.
If he/she was on fire I wouldnât waste an ounce of piss to put it out.
Got all of you reasonable folks out there, who besides Iceefag posts headline posts attacking board members children or wives
Thatâs who youâre being reasonable about
Rick you wallow in coercing desperate hookers. Everyone on here sees it. It's why you're considered a vile low life.
Btw this whole conversation is ludicrous given that you first came on here pretending to be a pimp who was selling his crack ho GF's ass out the back door. Seriously now honey. But I digress.
You are free to believe that any woman who has a financial need is utterly incapable of making her own informed decision, but I do not. We all work for money, whatever the job. Don't belittle others who are willing to make different choices than you by treating them as helpless victims. It's absurdly condescending and more than a little misogynistic, or at least it would be if you were actually a guy. Shame on you.
Berating the desperate women you pay to fuck
Coercing desperate hookers
Berating tge poor
Telling us how rich you are
Your delusions that the hookers you pay aren't hookers
Everything out of your mouth is ludicrous
Btw this whole conversation is ludicrous given that you first came on here pretending to be a pimp who was selling his crack ho GF's ass out the back door. Seriously now honey.
Do you feel like a dirty little Iceefag
LULZ
You can lie about me but I'm saying the truth about you
Rick most of your threads are about
Berating the desperate women you pay to fuck
Coercing desperate hookers
Berating tge poor
Telling us how rich you are
Your delusions that the hookers you pay aren't hookers
Everything out of your mouth is ludicrous
Now hurry and get butthurt and copy snd paste your inane ramblings
Btw this whole conversation is ludicrous given that you first came on here pretending to be a pimp who was selling his crack ho GF's ass out the back door. Seriously now honey.
Seriously people, she couldn't keep a desperate coke junkie stripper whore with both money and drugs. She lost her to a loser weed dealer. And then on TUSCL she has to read posts from guys like rickdugan and twentyfive that easily could get with the same type of stripper and even hotter ones through simply using their experience and money. This literally hurts her! She only wishes she had it that easy. Instead she has to work at it twice as hard and go after the most desperate junkies out there. She even has to shoplift to afford her whores. So of course she's gonna hate on rickdugan and any PL on TUSCL that can get a stripper whore with a lot less effort.
Rick most of your threads are about
Berating the desperate women you pay to fuck
Coercing desperate hookers
Berating tge poor
Telling us how rich you are
Your delusions that the hookers you pay aren't hookers"
^^^Translation -> I'M SO JEALOUS