Recently did an hour VIP with a favorite dancer. I had more than 20 half an hour rooms with her, but never did an hour with her. This time she said her rent is already due, she is far behind. So, decided to do an hour vip. She is always clean an very fresh. This time once she came closer, it was evident she did her regular makeup to look great but looked like did not bath for few days and her mouth smelled like bad egg yolk or ammonia or garlicky but it was immensely un tolerable. Also heavy weed smell. As I have great relationship with this girl and liked her as a very personal friend, I did not say anything, just said let’s just talk and drink today. Infact she messaged me to meet her at club, even after that she did this. $1200 was wasted. How to tell her next time?. Any such experience?
If you have a great relationship with her tell her. Sometimes it’s best to just be honest people esp if we consider them a friend. You’re the one paying so why wouldn’t you say anything at all? If she does get upset that’s what the other girls are for lol.
1200 for one hour? Did you add the 1 at the beginning by mistake? I know 200 would be a bargain nowadays, but I think you basically gave her a donation of 800 or 900 dollars. I guess you are some kind of good friend (or easy target) in her mind.
I don't know what you paid for the many half hour rooms previously, but was it really 600 each time? Wow!
Yes. I will tell her next time. I normally go for half an hour champagne room which is around 300 plus tip around 80$. But this club has next level VIP rooms for around 1000 for an hour. Plus tip. Looks I have taken for granted by this girl.
You wrote and I quote:
“she said her rent is already due, she is far behind”
You might have missed an opportunity, because that is when you should ask if she would be interested in OTC, that way she gets all the money and doesn’t have to share with the club.
But the opportunity is gone now…because she is probably going to want $1200 for OTC in the future.
I can’t believe you didn’t noticed the bad breath and not showered before going to VIP, and going to a high priced club should have been a red flag for you that she is just trying to take advantage of you.
But since “Everything on this site should be considered a work of fiction.” I think you should make up your stories more believable next time.
Champphilly is just another cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads.
But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself.
If engaging with his inane posts is fun for you, then go for it.
CJ-bend, it really happened. She does not do OTC as she started dancingjust an year ago and in her 20s. You don’t have certify me as you have all time on earth to read fabricated shit stories. Others can give their opinions.
ChampPhilly that sounds like an absolute ripoff to pay $1200 an hour.
Even $400 should include a full hour of full service. $1200 is the rate you pay for pornstars or insta girls with millions of fans.
Icee champ doesnt want or ask for extras. At least he earned the $1200, better than stealing and robbing every penny after all.
This may not be a one-time thing. I've found with my regulars that a sudden personal hygiene problem is a sign they have started caring less about their job. This may be due to a drug or alcohol problem, getting burnt out from the job, having problems making money and giving up trying or various other unknown reasons. When I notice sudden personal hygiene issues they will often continue. The girl will many times soon quit after that.
I will usually just stop visiting a girl in situations where this problem develops. I don't try to get into fixing whatever problems they have and that includes a personal hygiene problem. One time I told a regular with this issue I didn't want to do lap dances that night. She walked to the other side of the room, turned around, and made a face at me like we were in elementary school. She quit soon after that. This girl you are dealing with sounds like she is struggling. Her trying to manipulate you by telling you she can't pay her rent and getting you to feel sorry for her is a sign of that. A successful stripper doesn't try to push regulars into doing something they may not want to do. They know it will eventually drive them off.
docsavage, agree with you. When a regular does not care to keep the personal hygiene, then it is the time to move on. I feel she is into too much weed and drinking and rushing to club at last minute. This club has shower for girls in their locker room. Still she does not care about hygiene. Yes, it is time to move on, but only the drawback is going to same club. May be need to find out the days she does not work there or her shift hours etc.
Telling a customer my rent is due is not the move of a professional. Especially one whom I’ve never seen out the club but even so idk.
My bills is my business, what I do for you is our business.
But he did say she was a personal friend so it sounds like he pushed a line too. A “personal friend “, may ask you to help them out in their time of need so I can’t fault her for her energy.
Not to be mean, but is the OP somewhat new to this hobby? if not this cant be the first time he stopped getting dances from a regular dancer of his… this happens all the time for various reasons…
Also the fact we are talking about a dancer that played the “my rent is late” card also makes me wonder,
Most of these girls make fairly decent money. If they are late on rent then they either are living way way to high on the hog or they are spending it on something else very expensive…. if you get my drift.
In my experience it is not uncommon for dancers to implode by spending thier money on booze and drugs and starting a downward spiral, And it often starts with the symptoms described in the original post.
It’s entirely your choice how you spend your money, and how you enjoy strip clubs.
If this dancer is having trouble paying rent, and her breath is smelling unpleasant, that might provide insight into deeper issues that she’s experiencing. I hope she’s ok. But, she might be dealing with a chemical addiction. It’s entirely possible she’s having a bad month, as the economy is hurting, and guys might not have the free cash flow that is needed for strip club enjoyment.
Since you know this girl well, it’s best to subtly let her know that she needs to clean up. If she keeps having a smell, it could cost her more money in the future.
To those who keep criticizing how much he spent on that room, I'll say what I always say on this topic, which is that nobody has a right to judge how another grown man spends his own money. Sure most of us wouldn't drop that kind of coin on something like that, especially with no realistic prospect of a payoff in sight, but Champ is fully entitled to have his own priorities and spend his own money how he likes.
@Champ: With that said, you did her no favors by not saying something to her. I understand the desire to avoid controversy and I also normally avoid "shoot the messenger" situations, but this girl was so off the rails that hearing it from someone would have been doing her a service. It sounds like this girl is fucked up in the head if she couldn't comprehend how bad she smelled and looked to others. It's always sad to see a girl bottom out like that, but it happens. It wouldn't surprise me if drugs were involved.
If you pay $1200 for an hour vip it encourages a scam and a ripoff. Why would a club even have that pricing structure in the first place? Even $800 for an hour VIP is overpriced. If its a very famous dancer, with huge lines and wait times, or a club with lots of competition for buying lapdances, maybe they can get away with charging that much
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BTE, that expensive VIP hardly anyone goes for it. They go for regular champagne room costs half of it. Anyways, I just wanted to help her, so I did that expensive vip. Definitely not happening next time. Most people in this forum made me to realize that is too much money even if I want to help esp a dancer.
Rick, that girl is going downhill from the year ago I met her first time. I noticed not a single good civilian person in her friends list, mainly dancers struggling in their personal life, med dealers etc. Also, the bad friends she had played huge part in transforming her to this mess may be.
MeNot2You, yes. I asked her where all the money has gone as she works 6 days a week. She has excuses of loans she borrowed from friends and family during the pandemic. Not sure on this.
Inflation, Pandemic may have a slight role. But totally a personal mess by dancer.
I have a close personal friend who is a dancer as well. Known her for the better part of a decade. She developed a problem with alcohol and over time went from working a good hustle in the club to just going and having everyone buy her drinks for a shift.
It started out with “can I borrow a few bucks” etc to “can you please pay my rent” etc. I finally just set boundaries: told her 1) I’m sorry but I can’t take on your problems 2) you need to get squared away (ie rehab, which I will helped her get into) 3) I will pay you well for your time in the club but I’m not an atm and I’m definitely not going to fund her self destruction.
===> "Rick, that girl is going downhill from the year ago I met her first time."
If she was getting progressively worse, then why did you continue to patronize her? Like I said before, I'll never criticize how another man spends his money, but that assumes that a guy finds some value in the interaction that makes it worth it to him. If that was not the case, why did you not make a change sooner instead of riding with her as she continued to fall apart?
Rick, good question. She is more intelligent than most dancers on the floor, we have lots in common to talk for hours. She easily hangs out with me for few hours. It is more like meeting a good friend. That’s the reason why I failed to notice or ignored that she is slowly falling apart. But now it realize I have taken for granted. Will find a way to quit her.
Cacaplop you said she's been going downhill for years. Then say you didn't notice her going downhill. You post with so many profiles you forget your own bs and contradict yourself
Icee champ isnt cacaplop. Its clear from the writing styles and themes.
Also there’s nothing impressive about using stolen money to tip dancers or buy dances. Nothing impressive about flexing stolen watches either
2Icee, please stop it, as I liked her, I kind of ignored minor problems until it got really worse. Don’t research. This is the forum to share thoughts, ideas and helping each other. Don’t be cheap.
The exorbitant amount notwithstanding, here's one way to let her know, and the sooner the, better.
"Hey babe, it seems like you've been working hard today and I'm glad I can help. You might want to take a few minutes to freshen up though. Ok to leave the clock running if you can come back in a few minutes. Or take your time and let's start over when you are ready."
Hopefully she will appreciate it and will clean herself up then do a great job getting you messy in the best way! But if nothing else, she will respect your candor.
You got taken. I would have said "my god, you stink", and not paid her anything. Since it's too late for that, I'd tell her she stank last time and you couldn't do it. And stop doing her favors, she's not doing you any. She actually owes you a freebie. Don't consider her to be a real person she's a whore and a public cum-dump
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I don't know what you paid for the many half hour rooms previously, but was it really 600 each time? Wow!
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
You wrote and I quote:
“she said her rent is already due, she is far behind”
You might have missed an opportunity, because that is when you should ask if she would be interested in OTC, that way she gets all the money and doesn’t have to share with the club.
But the opportunity is gone now…because she is probably going to want $1200 for OTC in the future.
I can’t believe you didn’t noticed the bad breath and not showered before going to VIP, and going to a high priced club should have been a red flag for you that she is just trying to take advantage of you.
But since “Everything on this site should be considered a work of fiction.” I think you should make up your stories more believable next time.
Champphilly is just another cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads.
But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself.
If engaging with his inane posts is fun for you, then go for it.
Otherwise, don't think you're answering sincere questions.
~ Call.Me.Ishmael
~ April 29, 2022
“In this world, shipmates, sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport; whereas Virtue, if a pauper, is stopped at all frontiers."
~Father Mapple via Herman Melville's "Moby Dick".
Even $400 should include a full hour of full service. $1200 is the rate you pay for pornstars or insta girls with millions of fans.
Icee champ doesnt want or ask for extras. At least he earned the $1200, better than stealing and robbing every penny after all.
I will usually just stop visiting a girl in situations where this problem develops. I don't try to get into fixing whatever problems they have and that includes a personal hygiene problem. One time I told a regular with this issue I didn't want to do lap dances that night. She walked to the other side of the room, turned around, and made a face at me like we were in elementary school. She quit soon after that. This girl you are dealing with sounds like she is struggling. Her trying to manipulate you by telling you she can't pay her rent and getting you to feel sorry for her is a sign of that. A successful stripper doesn't try to push regulars into doing something they may not want to do. They know it will eventually drive them off.
Telling a customer my rent is due is not the move of a professional. Especially one whom I’ve never seen out the club but even so idk.
My bills is my business, what I do for you is our business.
But he did say she was a personal friend so it sounds like he pushed a line too. A “personal friend “, may ask you to help them out in their time of need so I can’t fault her for her energy.
Also the fact we are talking about a dancer that played the “my rent is late” card also makes me wonder,
Most of these girls make fairly decent money. If they are late on rent then they either are living way way to high on the hog or they are spending it on something else very expensive…. if you get my drift.
In my experience it is not uncommon for dancers to implode by spending thier money on booze and drugs and starting a downward spiral, And it often starts with the symptoms described in the original post.
Hate to say it but time for you to cut and run.
If this dancer is having trouble paying rent, and her breath is smelling unpleasant, that might provide insight into deeper issues that she’s experiencing. I hope she’s ok. But, she might be dealing with a chemical addiction. It’s entirely possible she’s having a bad month, as the economy is hurting, and guys might not have the free cash flow that is needed for strip club enjoyment.
Since you know this girl well, it’s best to subtly let her know that she needs to clean up. If she keeps having a smell, it could cost her more money in the future.
@Champ: With that said, you did her no favors by not saying something to her. I understand the desire to avoid controversy and I also normally avoid "shoot the messenger" situations, but this girl was so off the rails that hearing it from someone would have been doing her a service. It sounds like this girl is fucked up in the head if she couldn't comprehend how bad she smelled and looked to others. It's always sad to see a girl bottom out like that, but it happens. It wouldn't surprise me if drugs were involved.
It happens all the time Bharlem, lol.
Public Service Announcement (PSA)
BigThirdEye and Champphilly are just cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads.
But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself.
If engaging with his inane posts is fun for you, then go for it.
Otherwise, don't think you're answering sincere questions.
~ Call.Me.Ishmael
~ April 29, 2022
“In this world, shipmates, sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport; whereas Virtue, if a pauper, is stopped at all frontiers."
~Father Mapple via Herman Melville's "Moby Dick".
MeNot2You, yes. I asked her where all the money has gone as she works 6 days a week. She has excuses of loans she borrowed from friends and family during the pandemic. Not sure on this.
Inflation, Pandemic may have a slight role. But totally a personal mess by dancer.
I'm not taking this seriously.
It started out with “can I borrow a few bucks” etc to “can you please pay my rent” etc. I finally just set boundaries: told her 1) I’m sorry but I can’t take on your problems 2) you need to get squared away (ie rehab, which I will helped her get into) 3) I will pay you well for your time in the club but I’m not an atm and I’m definitely not going to fund her self destruction.
If she was getting progressively worse, then why did you continue to patronize her? Like I said before, I'll never criticize how another man spends his money, but that assumes that a guy finds some value in the interaction that makes it worth it to him. If that was not the case, why did you not make a change sooner instead of riding with her as she continued to fall apart?
Also there’s nothing impressive about using stolen money to tip dancers or buy dances. Nothing impressive about flexing stolen watches either
He also says she went downhill but also that he didn't know she went downhill.
Basically just another cacaplop troll thread
Almost as humorous as "This thread is closed."
Almost...
This thread is now closed.
Iceefag is a Frenulum
Ok now you can close it
"Hey babe, it seems like you've been working hard today and I'm glad I can help. You might want to take a few minutes to freshen up though. Ok to leave the clock running if you can come back in a few minutes. Or take your time and let's start over when you are ready."
Hopefully she will appreciate it and will clean herself up then do a great job getting you messy in the best way! But if nothing else, she will respect your candor.