Comments by gatorjoe2 (page 2)

Took me a second, but I believe he is implying that if the girl was fighting to get away from the rape (i.e. her hole would be moving/spinning etc) that it would be impossible for a guy to get his pencil (dick) into the opening (pussy). Thus if the girl really was "fighting" back or resisting that she wouldn't have been raped.

I have done the 2 dancer thing several times... It depends on the situation and the girls. One time, I could only get the one I wanted naked by going with her friend (cost me 10 extra dollars). One time, it was complete air dance by both (talk of a waste of money). I have had more good experiences than bad with it. One time there was a high upsell at PP in Columbia. I didn't like the girls to begin with and couldn't justify it (the dance might not have been bad, but they were just pushing it to hard). If it comes naturally (you are sitting with two, having fun, they get playful with each other or you), then it has been a more enjoyable experience. One time, one girl was extremely shy, the other was a little more "outgoing" and helped the shy one learn the ways. It was fun.

No guy wants to be cheap and tip only a 75 cents. Guys at least in the strip club don't want to be carrying around quarters. So what do you do when you are given 75 cents change, but want to give a dollar or more tip. That's right, you leave the change and a buck. Just made 75 cents on the patron.

I don't mind tipping... But a place I have visted twice over the past month, has a cute "suicide" girl (trust me, it's a compliment) working the door with a sign that says "Tip or Die" Thought that might be a bit extreme, but I would much rather "tip" her than the guy that works there. Such a contrast having a female work the door vs a guy. I almost feel better having a girl than a guy there like it will be my lucky day. I will not tip the bathroom trolls unless I go #2 or have no aim. I can't stand these guys.

I think it is the vibe that person gives off while "being courted" and during the dance. Sometimes you know a person is a cheapskate, sometimes you know he is honest. I will say the girls at my frequent trust me a lot. I will say I have to go to the ATM, but they have to stay in the dance room and pay their "fee". There have been times where I had t hunt the girl down in the back to make sure she got her money. The ATM is right by the door and far from the dance room. It would not be hard to get to "sneak" out. I never will do it, because I will be back and never want the karma of doing that.

I have gone to the SC to watch something that I can't get at home (UFC/Boxing PPV). 45 dollars PPV at home vs 5 dollar charge, 20 dollars worth of drinks, good company (strippers and other guys watching it). I am not a person that goes to watch a national championship or superbowl or world series, which is on a normal TV. I have heard that Tootsie's in Miami which has giant screen in their warehouse/stripclub, fills to the brim on a fight night.

One time when I was a PL for this one dancer, I escorted her to the mall for a shopping trip. I said I would buy some things, but I told her I got to see her change and get a quick lapper each time we bought something. 3 lappers and several stores later. I was a happy man.

I used to live in a town that the police installed giant speakers on the "gang" corners and played classical music in blaring towns. The effect the gangs left those street corners, due to not liking the music (this was after they cut the power once or twice and vandalized the speakers a couple of times). Needless to say, the music work. I don't care what the music is as long as it is not "screamo, heavy metal music", which hurts my ear drums worse than anything. I really do believe that at smaller clubs, music influences the dances and the patrons who come in more than prices.

Nothing is more reassuring to man to walk into a bar where the bartender knows your drink, your job, and can talk to you about it (don't care the gender). Good Bartender can be be a great councilor, a pick me up on a hard day, a person to celebrate a good day with.

I think a lot of the ideas would end putting your club you are consulting for out of business or in trouble with the law.I think chandler though has a lot of the right ideas. I have no problems with a bouncer peering down a long row of booths, chairs,couches, etc. I also think the girls like it for safety reasons and it at least makes it seem like you are trying to prevent the drug dealing/prostitution that goes on. For clubs that extras are not common place, it makes sure that the girls have a reason to say no, which again I am ok with. Remember not every guy goes to a club looking for extras. Cameras, well that is another issue. No guys want to think they are being watched and video taped becaue of how the tape may be used. But, a dispute, a battery, drug dealing, etc happens in the club, it is a great way to prove it. Perhaps the best way if you don't want the bouncers eyeing what is going on is to have the super cameras like we see in the casinos in Las Vegas. The eye in the sky sees all. Obviously, the camera is not in plain site. Drink prices should be lowered. I hate paying 5 dollars for a beer, hate it even more paying 7.50 for a lemon drop martini. Reasonable prices make everyone happier. The issue isn't the DJ, but rather what he does. I think the girls' input for the song is fine, but choosing the song is bad. You are going to get a lot of rap/r+b stuff that middle aged white males (the guys with the real money) don't want to hear. Allow the DJ to announce the girls, announce 2 for 1s, and if there happens to be a bachelor party, let him do his thing. Other than that, stay quiet. GK's 12-14 are great ideas (#15 would be taken care of with 14). I believe in a flat tax for working at the club (5-10% of whatever you make). You make 1000, i get 100, you make 20 dollars, I get 2. That way we avoid the "I have to make 60 dollars just to be able to walk out of here" Again not all clubs are 'extras' clubs, not everyone goes to clubs looking for extras. Mons Venus is not an extras club, but still does really well.

TUSCL Brother, One dollar coins aren't a scam, if they are the official US coins. If we actually used them instead of paper dollars the US Mint would save lots of money because coins stay in circulation much longer than paper money.

All the girls say they are from Florida, I mean, come'n when's the last time you were excited to a Wisconsin heffer. Florida girl conjures up an image of beach, bikini, and strip clubs that are actually fun to go to. It's the same as the girls that say they are from Las Vegas trying to impress more than they should. And yes, I have been out of state to clubs some of the girls will state they worked at Mons or Tootsies or something like that. I grill them on the clubs to see if they really know anything or just playing up an image. A lot of them it's just play.

While I am at it, Founder this has absolutely nothing to do with hot women, strip club, escorts, or anything possibly relating to strip clubs, if you are willing to take down reviews I hope you will take down this bull shit. Hell, I don't even care if you hate Obama, but question the man's policies(socialist or necessary), but this lame ass attack when it has been proven over and over again to be untrue. Is absolutely incredible.

please don't tell me you believe this garbage. This was a set-up, the man is a coward and screwed up in the head. He enlists in May to fight in Afghanistan. Two months later the man thinks "Oh shit, Obama might not be Commander in Chief because he might not have been born here." Hey idiot, when you signed up in may he was CiC, he will be CiC long after. Nothing changed from May to now. Additionally, a reservist he chose to go to active duty and amazingly enough he can choose not to go based on his current status in the reserves. If this man truly believes any of the bullshit he is going to try and lay down, I hope we find every check that he has accepted from the US Army as a reservist and demand a refund, i don't want chickenshit like him representing my country. Only a truly cowardly soldier, waves good bye as his fellow soldiers go to fight. Oh for those that still believe this BS. Factcheck.org, a completely non-partisan site that actually researches the material, did it for you. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

I like Dudester's idea, but of the places I visit, only one of them is even big enough to accomodate something like that (Tootsie' Miami). I believe Tootsie's requires all the girls to check in which means they take a quick photo of them. There are TVs throughout the place that will show the picture of the girl who is currently dancing (not exactly what it should be, but at least towards the right direction)

Oh I would add with the Tab, that I made sure I had a waitress that seemed trustworthy, the shy timid type who treats work as a job and not a party is the one you want, not the one smoking, grinding, and being involved in the party. I will say that a credit card makes it way to easy to spend money though.

As one who was seduced by Shadow's promise of extras at PP, on my first visit, I didn't get any where, and felt "Damn, Shadow lied, I must have to go the champagne room to get the extras" My next visit, upon taking a promising young lady to the champagne room, I used a credit card/License, I don't remember the cost, but I do know what I was told was going to be the cost was the cost that showed up on my card. With the champagne room, there was no "extras," maybe a bit more intensity, but only because of the length of time. The champagne and fruit platter were nice, but I don't like champagne really, and I am more of a meat and potatoes like of guy. Anyway, my advice is that the champagne room is not worth it at PP, some clubs it is absolutely worth it, but at PP, not really. Oh, just so shadow is not a liar, I came to the club on an empty Sunday around 5-6, and received what was promised by shadow with little solicitation other than I saying I knew shadow(candyman) from TUSCL. What does this show you? Be patient. The Champagne Room is not worth it at PP. If the fear is the credit card might be overcharged, my experience with PP (both for a tab, cash advance, champagne room) is that they are always accurate.

I like looking nice when I go so a nice pair of dark slacks and either a polo or button down. No jeans, ever. Jeans hurt the girl, and don't look right. Shorts, I have done the cargo shorts with no underwear, it was an ok experience. Felt pervy. I shouldn't because I have gotten extras, but the shorts just made me feel pervy. The things I will never wear at the club though are: 1) jeans or other rough pants, 2) a belt, 3)light in color pants, and 4) a white shirt, I feel like I am glowing in the black lights.

I enjoy talking "shop" with them, especially when I am new to the club or it has been a while since I visited. I like to know if the managers are fair (most of my encounters have said yes they are fair, if you do your job, you are fine, if not, you fail). I like to know the rules of the club, I like to know about some of the girls, I will normally tell the girls my impressions of the girls that I think are ROBs or who I think is nice/cute/hot, they will respond as well. Again, if I don't want to talk about the topic, I will change the subject at the earliest point I can.

I listen to the music, sometimes the club is boring, sometimes the ladies aren't that interesting and a good song can make it interesting. It's not background music, if it can make the club more like a fun party and less like the morgue. Sometimes all the rock music, especially the metal, gets too much for me. Same with rap, a healthy mix is good. Old white guys should be willing to have their limits push a little by the music. I like the classic rock occassionally, but it has to fit the club and the situation. My favorite club is mostly middle aged white guys, some white collar some blue collar, especially during happy hour. My expectations is that there should be a lot more rock, but pop works as well. Mistake is letting the girls choose the specific song, let them choose the genre (rock, metal, techno, r+b) and let the DJ do his job. Nothing worse though is the jukebox playing the same 5 songs over and over again, because the girl just loves that song.

Several clubs that I go to have always told me that if they work the friday/saturday night shifts than they have to work at least one "off" day as well. That way those stable of girls has to come in at least once to work, otherwise very few girls would be at the club on a Tuesday night. While every club has to do their own thing, Mons Venus has one of the best in my mind. The club charges 20 dollars upfront (no bathroom trolls, no tips to the door lady, no anything). That usually also includes a token for a free juice drink. From there, the girls dance, you pay. No BS. If the girls want to do 3 for 50, they will. They come and go as they please, no mandatory times on the stage. But not every place gets the girls, money, and reputation that mons has. Tootsie's in Miami has girls coming in at all times, but generally they work a shift, depending on the hours of the shift they work determines their payout. Some clubs don't allow the girls to wear jean skirts as part of their costumes, no heels can be worn while doing a private dance (to not mess up the couches), one foot on the ground, etc. Clubs have fines, but it's the same reason that governments have "sin" taxes to encourage certain types of behavior.

I would rather not have gone than have a bad day at the strip club. For me, strip club is a sort of mini-vacation, I could have spent that day fishing or at the beach or doing some else. Since I have to travel 4+ hours to get to a decent strip club, then I consider a bad time at a decent club to a problem. If I am at a closer, but below average club, where a bad selection is more likely, then I am not as upset at the bad day, but more pleased at a good day.

Steve has it right. Eliza Dushku is super hot, one movie you forgot is "The New Guy" where she plays a much hotter cheerleader. If not her, Julia Stiles, love her.

My favorite club has a gog show every Friday, twice a night, once for the happy hour club, once for the night club. As stated, the DJ is the one leading the charge. No matter how much the girls make, the girls then come around with their bucket and ask for a dollar tip from every guy. It is interesting with the right girls, but the girls are often not the ones I want to see on stage anyway. Again it is only fun, if there are others enjoying it. A show with 5-8 guys watching and tipping is not much fun.

Bathroom Troll freak me out. I will tip them simply because I am OCD about washing my hands and on average in a 4 hour trip to the club will go to the bathroom 3 or 4 times. The door girl always gets a dollar in and and a dollar out. One of my favorite places to go always has a stunning blonde working the door, always looks classy, no urge to see her naked, but it is nice when she recognizes me when I haven't been there in 4 months. The places that are closest to me have guys as gate keepers. I don't enjoy that, it sets up for a very different atmosphere, just seeing a guy at the door rather than a girl.