Dancers talking shop

It's fun, sad, interesting, boring. Does it detract from the fantasy or fun for me? Not if I'm having a good conversation and I like the dancer. It's a slice of life. In no particular order, here's list of 30 real dancer shop talk/personal conversation topics dancers have brought up with me:

1. Who's on their period.

2. Who's husband/boyfriend doesn't work and is a freeloader.

3. Who smokes weed.

4. Who doesn't smoke weed.

5. Who does coke.

6. Who doesn't do coke.

7. Who to avoid because she does heroin.

8. Who will do OTC (from someone who doesn't).

9. Who won't do OTC (from someone who will).

10. Who is a gourmet cook.

11. Who likes to read good books.

12. Who worries that her (choose: ass, boobs, feet, hips, lips are too (choose one: small, big).

13. Who has a "real" job doing what.

14. Who has a plan for the future.

15. ....who doesn't.

16. Why so and so can't dance.

17. Who likes anal.

18. Who doesn't like anal.

19. Which assistant manager gets high.

20. What campground she likes to take her kids to.

21. Where her (choose: boyfriend/husband/brother/neighbor) is locked up.

22. Who's kids are good in school.

23. Who's kids are going to have trouble.

24. Who wants to write fiction and has samaples.

25. Who has enrolled in college and what classes they are taking.

26. What I think of President Obama.

27. What her Mom or Dad does for a living.

28. Whether I'm a Republican, Democrat or Independent.

29. Who's boyfriend bought her a house.

.... and to close, one of of the more popular topics:

30. Who wants another shot.

(and the corollary: who better not drive home).

With any type of business, isn't talking shop considered kind of a tedious way to pass the time? It gets old pretty quickly. Listening to a stripper talk shop just goes to show how stripping isn't much different from other trades. I'd rather talk about things that do separate strippers from other workers. Like, oh, sex, for example.

Dancers' shop talk usually is merely gossip, and I hate gossip. I also dislike shop talk because it reveals the fact that dancers talk about customers incessantly, and I'd prefer to imagine that wasn't the case (fantasy).

While depending on the girl's style some of it can be interesting and informative (for example house fees and tip outs, call outs and early leave policies, which bouncers are hard asses and which look the other way, etc) for the most part I don't like it. A lot of it is gossip and unflattering, particularly some of their comments about other dancers and the regulars. I very rarely hear "he's a great guy, treats me and the other girls well, a pleasure to have in the house". I sometimes wonder what they say about me.

I always find the stuff they say interesting, to some degree. Sometimes it can be hilarious, like when the dancers at my favorite club talk about this one customer who is always there when I'm there. Another favorite topic is the owner's brother/the bouncer, who is apparently the black sheep of the family. It can also be informative, because they will say who are the good dancers and who aren't, and who does OTC.

dancers (to their credit) generally know that making a connection is a good thing, and they do try hard. generally, my best experiences have been when they chat me up, but then also listen. linear, one way discourses actually bore me. its good for them to remember that we are often there for escape, not reminders of our own day-to-day bs. its fair for us guys to reward the dancers that get it. it becomes survival of the fittest.

Sometimes, what a dancer talks about/mood can help in trying to gauge the quality of the dance if she is new to you.

Unless the dancer is really warning me about a ROB I don't put much faith in what they say about other dancers. My general experience has been that the dancers who talk badly about the other girls usually provide a bad experience themselves. My recent favorite always has something nice to say about the other girls or else she will not mention them. Since she is the most attractive girl in the club and gives me the most satisfying dances, I have to applaud her attitude toward the other girls.

I enjoy talking "shop" with them, especially when I am new to the club or it has been a while since I visited.

I like to know if the managers are fair (most of my encounters have said yes they are fair, if you do your job, you are fine, if not, you fail). I like to know the rules of the club, I like to know about some of the girls, I will normally tell the girls my impressions of the girls that I think are ROBs or who I think is nice/cute/hot, they will respond as well.

Again, if I don't want to talk about the topic, I will change the subject at the earliest point I can.

I like it when two or more dancers are sitting with me and they talk "shop" amongst themselves for a bit. You can really glean some insight into their world if you listen in. Sometimes two dancers will chat with each other in their native language while at the table. For reasons I can't explain, I find comfort in this. Weird, huh?

Gatorjoe2, I actually enjoy talking shop with them too.

Sometimes it can be a mood changer, so I always try to steer around things that might do that. It depends on the dancer.

I enjoy the hell out of it. When you spend 5 or 6 hours in a club, you cannot spend all that time just getting dances. Many times I have spent time with 3 or more dancers just bull shitting. They talk to me just like one of the girls. Once we were talking about baby firsts. First word, first step, etc. I chimed in with "How about the first time they sleep all night?" They replied "good one".

I'm neutral. Pretty much the same as dancers talking about their kids (from the other thread) unless it hits on a topic I'm interested in.

I'll listen, but really have to be in a particular mood for a two-way conversation on shop talk. The more perceptive dancers will pick up on guys who might be carrying black belts in club fu. I'd rather just be perceived as an easy mark until I know what I'm dealing with on the other side. One of the guilty pleasures of being on the road so much is seeing the reaction (girls giggly with big goofy grins on their faces, for example) after getting way more than they bargained for...

Bro, you are making my head swell! Comparing me to Hugh. I do alright for an amateur. Always room for one more at my table and if necessary we can always drag over another table.

59 said that he wondered what the dancers were saying about him behind his back. Who gives a shit? I know dancers that do not like me. The word always gets back to me. The feeling is usually mutual. I remember the time that Avery told Toni that I was an ass hole and that she should not hang with me. Toni told her to go fuck herself and immediately came to me to report their argument. You can't win them ALL over. So don't try.