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5 months ago
I dunno. I've seen dancers getting their bills paid throughout the decades I've been doing this hobby thing. A dancer who was on her way to being an ATF disappeared for over six months because a dude was paying her rent and paid to get her horrible teeth fixed. A true white knight that guy was lol.
That was 20 years ago. I think nowadays the whole sugar baby thing is more openly discussed, and it's more accepted to sell ass to pay the rent in casual circles. They just call it "hustling" these days.
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5 months ago
Because people can't just be content to enjoy what they have? Lots of places with off the books stuff are known, but that doesn't mean you need to go hopping up and down about it. Hard to look the other way when people keep demanding something be seen lol.
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5 months ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
I'm wondering what the rest of you are seeing when you click on the link. Maybe it's an inside joke and I'm not posting here enough anymore to get it.
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5 months ago
"It's not impossible to get OTC with a stripper the first night you meet her, but it's not easy and there's no magic-wand maneuver to make it easy...Generally, you need to locate a dancer that is either stupidly reckless or tragically desperate."
Now you're making me question my whole track record, CMI. Lol
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5 months ago
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Book GuyI write it like I mean it, but mostly they just want my money.
"How often do you find yourself wanting to go to strip clubs? I mean, in addition to the literal frequency with which you attend, what is your rate of DESIRE to attend?"
Almost never. There are few strip clubs that I actually enjoy as a place to "be". Until recently I didn't give it much thought, but a couple of times this year I've found myself skipping opportunities to go when it was convenient and likely would have ended with a stripper at my hotel. Point? The grind of the process now outweighs the gain (potential and actual).
It's not just enough for me to get a nice view, a hot time in VIP, or getting in the pants of a hot stripper. It needs to be *the* experience I want with *the* girl I want in *the* place I want or I'd rather not do it. Strip clubs are a means to an end, and I'm realizing now for me that's been the case for a long time now.
When I only did ITC then there was still the puzzle of what I could get done in club x, but after I made the jump to OTC club rules became almost irrelevant. I just need the place to have a decent lineup to work with. So as I think back now over all the strip club's I've seen, there are really only a few I enjoyed being in regardless of the girls.
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5 months ago
"At this point I was kind of in my head thinking I am wasting money and effort that could be spent trying to pull another dancer who would be more receptive to my offer."
If it's your local club, why the rush? First things first, never show the money upfront. Establish the vibe, then go from there. There's a lot of words on this thread already so that's basically all I have to say.
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5 months ago
"For all you fuck tards that can't wrap your heads around why Hamas/terrorist activities exist."
Actually this could be interesting. Why do you think Hamas started a fight that it knew it couldn't possibly win and risk the ruin and removal of the territories its people lived in?
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5 months ago
But if you tell everyone you're there are you still technically underground? Sounds cool. I just remember when the best rowhouse strip club in DC got a little too popular and then boom it was dust.
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5 months ago
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gammanu95My casual drinking is your alcohol poisoning.
I thought thread you were talking about was the welcome back thread, which seemed odd. For anyone who was wondering I think the thread he's talking about was the club robbery one.
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5 months ago
Welcome back, shadowcat.
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5 months ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
Pass
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5 months ago
Lots of responses here but jackslash wrote what I was thinking. The key to getting OTC is to be confident about it (and obviously not projecting a creepy killer vibe). If you put off a creepy vibe that's not something Internet strangers can help you with, but if you're striking out with the top girls try and land one who's acceptably hot and make sure it goes well.
Once you're known at the club as a safe and reliable OTC option other doors will open for you. I'm not going to get into how to land OTC as a new face because you're not at that point.
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5 months ago
If you find them tell us where they are...
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5 months ago
I did that this week. But I was only at the club because a dancer was working who I'll probably have sex with soon.
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5 months ago
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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free
Yeah that's a smash. If it's good enough for Tom Cruise she's probably got skills mere mortals don't see everyday.
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5 months ago
I've done it. Not lately I think. I usually purge those moments.
Any time it's ever happened is because of something that came out of her mouth or her ass. Dick breath I can deal with for a song by a subtle zig and zag but smelly ass gets on the clothes and doesn't come out without a full wash. Stank vag is tougher to pick up but I'll stop a dance immediately if that happens.
If I'm traveling I'm usually not packing enough clothes to have my club pants go down lol. But it has happened and that's what Walmarts are for...
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6 months ago
Hope you're back in the saddle soon. Make sure your young lady visitors don't cause too much of a stir with the nurses.
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6 months ago
"All dancers have to do is show up and be gorgeous and accessible."
Is this what you really think? I skipped most of what you wrote after I spotted this, but wondered...
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6 months ago
"They understand the circumstances and arrive dressed in civvie clothes so to not attract attention."
You're clearly mingling in classier social circles than I am, but nevertheless if she shows up she's going upstairs. I don't care if she walks in wearing a wooden barrel and rubber boots.
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6 months ago
I remember when people on these boards didn't know what a day use hotel was and look at them now lol...
"And has anyone ever been called out by hotel management for bringing a SWer to their room?"
Not once. Some hotels you can check into now send a digital key so you don't even have to talk with anyone on staff if you don't feel like it.
"What happened and how did you handle it?"
If it ever happened I'd probably just smile and shrug. Then walk away. You don't know what the locals are going to care about so admit nothing and get on with your day.
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7 months ago
I've had some pretty good times at this club. Haven't been there in a while but it had some definite advantages going for it from a talent and mileage perspective. Spanish speakers had a bit of an edge with the Latina lineup, but anyone could enjoy the fun.
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7 months ago
I was at a club in North Carolina (think it was Goldsboro?) at this club that was a converted house. While I was talking to this dancer The Hills by the Weekend came on and her voicebox must've been vibrating because it sounded like her voice was getting auto-tuned lol. She kept trying to talk and I just started to laugh. She looked embarrassed and I just pointed to get lap dances. It worked out.
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7 months ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
"Years ago, I a Cuban dancer in Florida, kept putting her hands around my throat."
Yes, she was thinking about killing you. But at least you lived.
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7 months ago
Here's what pornhub posted about it btw...
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