I’m fairly new to the strip club scene and now I’m finally got over the high of getting LP’s from the hottest women available in my area. Now it’s just spending over $500-$600 on really beautiful 3-4 girls (Yes it’s that expensive here) for the same although great grind LP’s and me getting handsy except for the south. The club i frequent to doesn’t allow for extras due to cameras and there aren’t any better options in AL. The only real choice is OTC but so far I haven’t been lucky. I tend to go for the most popular girls in the club and I have realized the chances are pretty slim for otc with them. One straight up told me she doesn’t meet any PL’s outside while one told me we can hangout for lunch and but in that context. Now while I’m not that well off but I would be more than okay to pay more than what is suitable otc amount nowadays. My question is despite getting this kind of response should i try again with these girls or tey with some other ones? Is the response like that because i’m not buying them multiple stripper drinks or not tipping 5’s or 10’s and going directly for vip or something so they feel i’m not that well off because i’d rather pay good amount for otc in place of wasting my money on stripper drinks or like giving away 50’s or a hundred on tipping girls. I usually buy them one stripper drink before vip just to show I treat them different from other girls. How much is too much though for otc even for a state like AL? Please don’t mind if these questions are lame or naive because i’m very new to this stuff. I just scammed last week because i negotiated an otc with a dancer and she said I’ll meet after closing but you gotta spend money on me by going to vip and then tip me guess what i’m still on delivered when i asked her if we were still on.
Most girls will do OTC only after you've seen and spent on them ITC a few times. If you're asking about it in the first visit, they may be suspicious of you and would 99% say no. But there is always that 1 girl in every club who offers OTC in the first visit ;)
Strip clubs are the opposite of the real world, it's not smart to seek anything BUT immediate gratification. Buy a dance from her, if it was worth the $ to you, buy another. Don't buy dances thinking it will lead to something beyond the dance, regardless of anything she hints at or promises.
Most dancers are used to being asked on dates or for OTC for P4P. A few seem genuinely offended by it. One approach is to ask something like "what do you think of dancers who make extra money seeing customers outside the club?" If a stripper agrees to see you OTC, assume there is a high chance she will ghost.
Consider the option of escorts ( theeroticreview.com ). But, which ever way you go, I think paid dating is not as different from unpaid dating as we would like. With strippers, you can spend a lot of money based on hopes for what will never happen. With escorts, most of the first dates will be disappointing, but still cost as much as a whole night at a strip club.
The first OTC is the hardest. Then you gain confidence and OTC becomes easier. It does help to see a dancer regularly and spend money on her. Once you have built an ITC relationship the girls will be more willing to do OTC.
There really no straight answer. It depends. You've got invest in the club, find the right dancer, get along but a lot of the time it sort of overlaps with dating... She still has to like you at least bit. YMMV.
Most strippers are druggies. Most have a dude who she does drugs with. Most prefer to keep the club separate from home. It's hard to compete with guys who bring them drugs and get high with them. But, a new girl might not like working in the club. In general, when you get a private, if you pay them quite a bit more than you negotiated, then ask for her phone number, you'll get it.
"I would be more than okay to pay more than what is suitable otc amount nowadays. My question is despite getting this kind of response should i try again with these girls or tey with some other ones?"
Why would you try again with the same girls? They said no. Move on, and revisit when you have thought through a strategy, changed something up, and given them a reason to be interested.
The fact that you're "ok to pay more than what is suitable" is the issue. Fix that, and you'll have a better chance. Sounds illogical, I understand, but your desperation is seeping out of your pores and these bitches can smell it a mile away. Women are great at it. You have to truly not care, which is of course antithetical to your purpose.
"In general, when you get a private, if you pay them quite a bit more than you negotiated, then ask for her phone number, you'll get it."
Do the opposite of this. You'll have more money, more respect from her, equal service, and if she gets a good vibe from you, her phone number (which she will not give you if she doesn't have a good vibe from you, regardless of how much money you throw at her, either that, or she just won't reply).
You dudes throwing money at them thinking you can buy stuff that's not for sale.
Agreed. The fact that I was willing to pay more is these girls are the hottest I’ve encountered. I typically go for white girls is there prospects like these in atlanta and which club in atlanta would have my preference and extras for grabs
if you are willing to spend then go to the extra heavy places. Detroit, FL, LA, etc. There are many threads discussing these areas including specific clubs, the types of girls, what's on the menu, and prices
I agree with 5footguy. The hottest girls typically offer subpar service. They rely on their looks too much. the best extras are usually your 5 to 7 range. Eager beats pretty in my experience.
My limited experience suggestion: 1) make sure you are presentable. 2) don’t cheap ITC. 3) watch the girls, which ones display a more close and touch interaction on the floor. 4) make selection and take her to VIP a few times. 5) tip her well (IF earned). 6) tell her you want to do this again. “Text me if you’re working Saturday?”. 7) do another VIP. did it get more risqué the second time? 8) Ask about OTC.
OR the quick, risky, go for broke: step 1) when in the club and you select a girl, say you need to tip her by ApplePay. 2) she gives you her number to send the tip. 3) text her the next day and ask if you can see her again. 4) await a response or non response.
They’re women and they’ll have safety concerns. Try not to increase those concerns.
1 - "there are cameras" is a scapegoat excuse for girls won't don't want to say they don't want to do xyz. If a girl uses cameras as an excuse, walk away. If she simply isn't comfortable with doing xyz, and states as such, then respect her choice and decide how much you are willing to pay for what she DOES do. There are plenty of clubs with cameras that are known for fun times.
2 - Don't request number right out of the gate. They get that all day/night. Your best success and least frustration/rejection will come when they offer their number without being asked. Of course, if they offer their number quickly, be in the lookout for ROB behavior or the psychology which results in buying more VIPs/spending more money because they got into your head.
3 - Never fall into the "do VIPs, and we will do OTC" trap.
4 - if she's says no once, don't ask again.
5 - focus on 7 & below girls, and the ones that are not just attractive, but also pleasant to be around.
6 - ask yourself why you want OTC. More comfortable setting for playtime? Want to feel like you're on a date? Want to be seen in public with a more attractive girl than you're normally with? Maybe you don't really want OTC, but ITC will suffice.
7 - don't trick yourself into thinking OTC will turn into a regular dating/girlfriend situation. It most likely will not. Even moreso, don't believe you are different/better than those who have failed at dating strippers. Nearly all will fail, and most who succeeded wish they would have failed.
8 - Prepare yourself for flakes/no-shows/drama/random requests for nails/Uber/sitter/etc.
9 - don't come across as needy. It will cost you money in the cases where you get an agreement in OTC, as she will sense desperation and increase her asking price.
OTC can be fun, but is may also be more complex and expensive than ITC, and you can have good times of various variations ITC.
I have always played the long game and don't rush to OTC. If I'm interested in a dancer I'll go 2 rounds per visit to the club. After 2-4 of these visits we've exchanged contact information. By this time some have already offered OTC. If not I'll bring up getting together. 90% of the time its a yes.
Personally I don't think it's more expensive, at least not a tremendous difference. Rates between ITC and OTC are usually not that different. Some clubs charge a lot for private rooms and you can get hotels near that price; note a lot of dancers don't like to pay for parking so you need to figure out if you're going to cover that cost or go so far out from the city center where there isn't a parking fee. Some suburban hotels do a lot of wedding business. Since they know their guests will be getting ready for the big day, rooms have lots of mirrors.
Lots of responses here but jackslash wrote what I was thinking. The key to getting OTC is to be confident about it (and obviously not projecting a creepy killer vibe). If you put off a creepy vibe that's not something Internet strangers can help you with, but if you're striking out with the top girls try and land one who's acceptably hot and make sure it goes well.
Once you're known at the club as a safe and reliable OTC option other doors will open for you. I'm not going to get into how to land OTC as a new face because you're not at that point.
♥️ Dancer OTC For Me Could Range From $250- 500 Depending On How Long & What We're Performing. I Would Talk With Mi Stripper @ The Club First For Good While & See How She Is Before Meeting For OTC. Good Luck!
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Most dancers are used to being asked on dates or for OTC for P4P. A few seem genuinely offended by it. One approach is to ask something like "what do you think of dancers who make extra money seeing customers outside the club?" If a stripper agrees to see you OTC, assume there is a high chance she will ghost.
Consider the option of escorts ( theeroticreview.com ). But, which ever way you go, I think paid dating is not as different from unpaid dating as we would like. With strippers, you can spend a lot of money based on hopes for what will never happen. With escorts, most of the first dates will be disappointing, but still cost as much as a whole night at a strip club.
regularly and spend money on her. Once you have built an ITC relationship the girls will be more willing to do OTC.
Better yet, drive a few hours over to Atlanta.
Why would you try again with the same girls? They said no. Move on, and revisit when you have thought through a strategy, changed something up, and given them a reason to be interested.
The fact that you're "ok to pay more than what is suitable" is the issue. Fix that, and you'll have a better chance. Sounds illogical, I understand, but your desperation is seeping out of your pores and these bitches can smell it a mile away. Women are great at it. You have to truly not care, which is of course antithetical to your purpose.
Do the opposite of this. You'll have more money, more respect from her, equal service, and if she gets a good vibe from you, her phone number (which she will not give you if she doesn't have a good vibe from you, regardless of how much money you throw at her, either that, or she just won't reply).
You dudes throwing money at them thinking you can buy stuff that's not for sale.
IME, the "hottest" girls are rarely the best. Just talking about this recently here:
https://tuscl.net/discussion/84798
OR the quick, risky, go for broke: step 1) when in the club and you select a girl, say you need to tip her by ApplePay. 2) she gives you her number to send the tip. 3) text her the next day and ask if you can see her again. 4) await a response or non response.
They’re women and they’ll have safety concerns. Try not to increase those concerns.
I’m not sure what the policy is here for listing other websites, but there are several options for finding escorts. PM me if you want some info.
2 - Don't request number right out of the gate. They get that all day/night. Your best success and least frustration/rejection will come when they offer their number without being asked. Of course, if they offer their number quickly, be in the lookout for ROB behavior or the psychology which results in buying more VIPs/spending more money because they got into your head.
3 - Never fall into the "do VIPs, and we will do OTC" trap.
4 - if she's says no once, don't ask again.
5 - focus on 7 & below girls, and the ones that are not just attractive, but also pleasant to be around.
6 - ask yourself why you want OTC. More comfortable setting for playtime? Want to feel like you're on a date? Want to be seen in public with a more attractive girl than you're normally with? Maybe you don't really want OTC, but ITC will suffice.
7 - don't trick yourself into thinking OTC will turn into a regular dating/girlfriend situation. It most likely will not. Even moreso, don't believe you are different/better than those who have failed at dating strippers. Nearly all will fail, and most who succeeded wish they would have failed.
8 - Prepare yourself for flakes/no-shows/drama/random requests for nails/Uber/sitter/etc.
9 - don't come across as needy. It will cost you money in the cases where you get an agreement in OTC, as she will sense desperation and increase her asking price.
OTC can be fun, but is may also be more complex and expensive than ITC, and you can have good times of various variations ITC.
Personally I don't think it's more expensive, at least not a tremendous difference. Rates between ITC and OTC are usually not that different. Some clubs charge a lot for private rooms and you can get hotels near that price; note a lot of dancers don't like to pay for parking so you need to figure out if you're going to cover that cost or go so far out from the city center where there isn't a parking fee. Some suburban hotels do a lot of wedding business. Since they know their guests will be getting ready for the big day, rooms have lots of mirrors.
Once you're known at the club as a safe and reliable OTC option other doors will open for you. I'm not going to get into how to land OTC as a new face because you're not at that point.