How much to pay for OTC ? $200 to $300 fair enough ?

Yeah, that's an appropriate low end range. Consider combining that with a $50 dinner and a small gift if that fits the situation.

FYI, When referring to female Latin Americans the appropriate term is Latina.

Sorry about the dumb add on. You were correct. :-)

On the other hand, going by the location of OP's last review, the Bay Area underground hat dances might be within range...

Location, Location, Location. It would cost a lot more in New York than say El Paso, Texas. Generally though $200-$300 sounds about right. It's usually for a hour.

Although I rarely do OTC, I frequently receive quotes of $150-$200 per hour in Georgia from the dancers. I have never payed more than $200 plus dinner/drinks. That's the most I'm willing to pay. The cheapest OTC session, aside from a couple of free ones, was $125.

Location plays a very big part in the rates.

Specifying your location will help, rates do vary and a local person will be able to help you out better

I'd go up to $500 or more for a ten I find in Rhino. Life's too short to regret what you don't do.

Here in the Midwest, I pay $200-250 plus a nice lunch for an afternoon date, say noon to 5 or 2-7 p.m. For overnight (My preference) I've paid $350-525 plus fancy dinner about 8pm and nice brunch at 11 or noon the next day. I've done this 8-10 times with my ATF and *love* the 16-hour dates! At my age it's good to maximize the time between attempts :) A 16-hour date probably sounds abhorrent to a lot of guys, but I literally never get tired of this girl.

Thanks folks for your valuable comments. Am shuttling between Dallas and Houston if the location helps. Based on your feedback was thinking of bumping it upto $400 and a gift.

No pussy is worth more than $400.

I'd say $300 is a good and fair offer for an hour or two - why start at $400; bump up to that if she's dead set on it - you can agree on $300 and if you feel she went and above and beyond then tip an extra $50.

w.r.t. duration - well - that is part of the negotiation - how long do you want this "date" to be - if you want a half-day or an over-night then time is $$$ and one needs to contribute more, IMO.

Also - it seems a lot of PLs see dinner as part of the "payment" - I don't see it that way b/c she's not making $$$ eating w/ you but yet she's investing her time which 99% chance she's only doing (time) b/c she's getting paid not b/c she's getting a meal like she was some starving Somali - this is not to say some dancers may not enjoy a nice meal in a nice restaurant but IMO their time and their $$$ is the overwhelming motivation.

BTW - has it already been agreed up on or at least *well-understood* that there is gonna be sex on this date (assuming that is what you are doing OTC for).

$400 sounds high for that area.

I would follow Papi's advice and make sure it's clear that there will be sex on this date. Do not assume she just knows.

My usual M.O. is basically describe this whole thing as, "we'll grab drinks and dinner, and then head to the hotel." So she knows from the get-go that drinks and drinner are included. In my experience the girls almost never charge extra for dinner and drinks, except the super professional ones with escort-like models, so no reason not to just tell her right from the start. In addition, my experience is, once you get a stripper drinking, she'll want to keep drinking... or, in other words, "drinks" can often stretch out to hours-long, if you want it to, with no upcharge.

Another OTC-payment factor is the club she works at - i.e. is it a big-$$$ upscale club where dancers can bank $1k on a very good-night; or a dive where dancers have to cross-their-fingers that PLs buy at least one dance.

I have no idea what Houston is like, but $300 should probably get it done in Dallas at one of the lower end clubs. But if you decide to shoot for a hotter girl from one of the better clubs, you may need to bump it up.

No way a decent looking stranger lets you fuck her for $300. Especially when she's clearing that in one night without having to suck dick or have sex for it.

Chances are you'll be doing a junkie slut so wear five condoms.

Lowest I've gotten OTC was $250 and I'm near Columbia, South Carolina. Of course I do tend to go for white girls. But not sure that a hot white black/latina would be that much more of a discount

Papi was thinking of Michaels or Gold diggers @ Houston. Since you know these places happy to hear your inputs

I have not been to Michaels nor Gold Diggers but have read many of the reviews - Michael's is mostly Cubana dancers these days and seems like at least a mid-tier club w/ a pretty-good amount of $$$ in it - Gold Diggers is all-black and seems more divey.

Cubanas are more cutthroat so I would expect possibly a harder bargain than if she was AA; IME.

i.e. IME; $200 will usually do w/ a dancer from an all-black club (particularly a divey club which often times black clubs are) - $300 should "usually" do for a Cubana from a mid-tier+ club.

BTW - if she's Cuban and you are "planning" on asking for OTC but have not yet; then don't be surprised if she says no; Cubanas tend to be fairly-conservative and all business and like to keep their stripper-business in the club, usually.

Great inputs. Thanks Papi :)

In MA where I am the norm is $400 to $500. I've once paid $1000 for one who just kept saying no and I HAD to have her. I know my ATF had a couple of regulars who paid her $600 & $700 respectively plus a couple of hundred for a hotel. Supply & demand. Now I know 5's &6's who will negotiate lower but you must pay for quality.

Price varies depending on the relationship. I paid $100 to my ATF the first time; it was more of a tip than payment. The rest of the time it was free. My last OTC with a different dancer I paid $250 which seemed reasonable; she wasn't a 9 or 10 but had a decent body and pleasant face. I imagine some girls higher up on the food chain would charge $500+.

Then there's the girls that will fuck for fried chicken...I stay away from those!

$200-300 is sufficient for an hour with your basic entry level skank. Better looks, less whore-like, or more time, costs more.

^ Sounds like I'd be able to get by for about $100

I think these firm #'s are hard to use. As many have said, prices vary substantially by area and club type. I generally won't pay her any more than I would for ITC, including the room. The lower range is a bit under what I spend for ITC on her alone. Usually I'll pay her the same OTC for ITC, I save the cost of the room & she saves all the tipouts/house fees/etc.

Another thing others mentioned, what you want also matters. A girl who's gonna stop by, fuck, and leave, is generally gonna be cheaper than one who's gonna hang out, have sex, cuddle, have more sex, etc. Things like going to dinner, staying the night, etc can go either way. Some girls consider a nice dinner and staying the night in a nice place a perk, and will expect less cash. Other girls view those things as extra work and are going to expect extra cash.

Use Backpage in your area to get a baseline on prices. Check the photos, compare to your OTC choice and then find out the rates for short stay (SS) HHr and Hr. Then use those prices as a baseline when negotiating. Like other posters noted, location is one of the factors driving pricing. Also if the night you choose to pull your OTC girl is one where no customers are in the club you have some leverage if she didn't make her house fee.

If you feel your experience is worth what you paid, then it is. Don't let others dictate how much you should be paying because there are too many factors involved. JS69 admits to overpaying, but if he feels it is worth it he got a good deal. If you would later regret spending $50 even though the going rate is $300, $50 would not be a good deal.

five years ago my very first otc (in her hotel room) was $400. hot girl but i won't pay that amount again. part of the learning curve...

I rarely do it and the least $100 and the most $400 (two girls and party favors). I rather not. I am sensual and that takes a person very far. If they feel you can be a great lover and put money in their pocket then they'll take a hit. Day, location, club and time factors like some blokes said. You can get the finest lady in a black club for $100 on a Tuesday evening.