What does it take to fuck a stripper for free?
Clackport
Washington
There are times when you have incredible conversations with strippers. They pretty much tell you everything that's going on in their lives. At this point, you want to hang out with them, you want to get to know them better without being seen as a customer to them. After all some strippers are actually really cool people. So TUSCL, what's the best way to go about this? (On a sidenote, it is actually possible for strippers to date customers?)
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Odds are once you set foot the the club you are automatically labeled as as ATM. As soon as you buy a dance there's no turning back in virtually all cases. You are also automatically not good enoguh for her gold lined pussy by frequenting such establishments.
The conversation are just SS. Some are better at it than others.
fito, you would think that but that not true. I've only had the displeasure of meeting a few stripper bf's. One was a meathead with an expensive sports car. One was a rediculusly old guy. One was obcenely fat. And one was a complete stoner. There's really no logic to it. Like any woman it's whatever gets her wet.
The closest I've gotten to dating a stripper was with a moonlighting teacher (verified btw). I just happened to be her type, we aparently had some things in common, and I said the right things to her that she though we'd get along in the real world. She f-in asked me out. WTF! Of course I managed to F it up. Found out later that she had a lot a baggage so in retrospect it's probably a good thing that things didn't go further than it did.
Of the the dancers I have known who their boyfriends/husbands are, the guys either:
(1) work at the club as a DJ, bouncer, manager, bartender, etc...
(2) or knew the girl before she was a stripper
Only a few rare instances have I known a dancer to date a customer that later they maintained a relationship.
3) drug dealer
4) pimp
I'm always cool, I'm always myself, and I'm never trying to impress any girl. Maybe that's it...they like that I don't give a fuck(in a good way). I am young(23), but I don't know how much that has to do with it. I do smoke weed, and I smoked with 2 of them...maybe that's it! Most people who smoke weed like having someone cool to smoke with. Start smoking, and see if one wants to smoke with you. Although I never supplied the weed either, they always bring it.
Shit, maybe I just got lucky(it's like that sometimes)! I'm currently working on a 4th and she actually invited me to smoke with her. I'll let you know if I fuck her or not.
Answer to the OP's sidenote question is: Yes, it can happen, but the odds are against it.
yankee428 said it best.
It's because she either wants a new fuck buddy or a new boyfriend and somehow you got to be it. It usually comes with strings attached. She may be a drama queen and accuse you in the club very loudly of sleeping with other dancers with hardly any warning.
She could get sneeky and trick you into talking about what other dancers are giving you for free. She may even call you up and want you to come over to visit during the night even though you live 2 hours away. I didn't consider one dancer to be a girlfriend but at that moment she wanted to be, her real boyfriend had just left her and apparently I was at the top of her list of potential new boyfriends.
If you're not picky, it would be rather easy to get a dancer be a girlfriend in my opinion. However that is assuming there isn't too much of an age difference and that you aren't picky and any dancer would do.
One dancer I know would probably let me fuck her for free but then she might want to move in or something else. Like shadowcat said "About as much as it takes to fuck a wife for free."
I do remember one dancer was exceptional in buying her own drinks at the club and sitting and talking to me for a long long time. I was too naive at the time to realize she wanted to date me like a boyfriend. I just thought she was being very friendly. Well I had also promised myself I wasn't going to go out with any more dancers after I moved away from an area where it seemed like I was going out with one dancer or another. I had encountered a dancer that did something I didn't like. I never gave her my phone number and she didn't know where I lived so I cut everything off with the dancer. After a while, I couldn't even remember what she did to tick me off. I pretty much just forgot about her until I watched some old videos on my camcorder and she had walked in front of the camera when we took a beach trip.
If you bought dances from the girl, then your fuck wasn't free.
Sorry for stating the obvious
"Excuse me love, could I ask your opinion, does this damp cloth smell like chloroform to you?" :)
You may use it anytime. BTW, cheerleaders are very gullible, especially the blond ones.
And here I thought I was just paying for the dances. If that's the case, I got some good deals:"Buy 2 lap dances and get complimentary sex multiple times".
If you go to Mcdonalds and buy a McRib(just the sandwich, nothing else) and in your bag you find an order of fries with that sandwich, are the fries considered free?
Shit, looking at things from your perspective, is anything free?
Either one will work.
1) As mentioned, work at the strip club.
2) Go to the strip club, but don't be a dance customer. Sit at the bar and buy drinks, and chat up the girl that approaches you. This separates you from the ATMs (regular customers like me). You gotta have some looks, patience, and a swagger. Imagine you are trying to date or fuck a waitress in a restaurant. You're going to have to put in some time.
#2 be very charming with a large cock then smack her
with it and make her call you daddy on fathers day
"As I stated in the discussion, this (question) is for my friends, not me"
LOL. Yeah, right And that's what you told the lady on the phone too when you ordered the case of ExtenZe
But for me, it's tough separating the stripper from the woman.
Over time, in my case, as the total (net, not gross) amount will accumulate until it hits the top curve and from there it spirals down ( like -2X). That's some shit if ya dig it.
last time we did it, I just gave her what was left in my wallet which was not much. Thing is, were in this gray stinky shit place where nothing is defined, yet it feels awesome to be in this zone where we are like strangers fucking it out and not knowing where will this go.
It could end today or maybe tomorrow. She clings to that like it is the last.
Just like any other relationship, if you're not her type, you're not going to get it.
Looking back, I will say working in a strip club (manager, DJ, bouncer), and/or knowing the stripper before she started to strip are your best chances at trying to fuck a stripper for free.
If you meet her in the strip club as a patron, your best chances are: not spending a lot on her in the club, having drugs for her, being worse off in life than her, and her being attracted to you.
"As I stated in the discussion, this (question) is for my friends, not me"
LOL. Yeah, right And that's what you told the lady on the phone too when you ordered the case of ExtenZe"
Being a RICH STUD like me.
Besides, free sex isn't usually worth it, as it often comes with baggage that ends up being *more* expensive than simple pay for play. Over the years, a very few strippers have offered to fuck me for no money, and it almost always turned out they were after more.
SJG
It was in 2008 after I got back from combat. My wife left me while I was gone. All I had after the Army was an old Jeep, a small apartment and some leftover savings. I'd go to this one strip club during the day just to drink. I suppose I knew I wanted to have sex with a stripper because I started playing games. Here's what I did:
-I always tipped and was never cheap
-NEVER got a lap dance
-Never let a girl catch me looking at her body for more than a split second
-Always ask the strippers about themselves and was super mystical when they asked about me. For example: so what's your job? "This and that."
-I never went at night
-I would watch the TV more than the girls, and sit alone
This one stripper Megan would flirt with me, and I'd encourage her to work the room instead. Finally I could tell she was losing money to hang out with me. Eventually she invited me to meet her in the parking lot. We went to my car and hooked up.
Then she invited me to meet her out. We went and bought cocaine (which I never did, but who cares?) and went back to my place. I knew her boyfriend was in rehab, but I didn't care because I was just cheated on.
She was pretty hot. Blonde with perfect tits and a nice young looking body. She told me she let a guy eat her once during a lap dance but that was it.
We went at it for hours, and the psychology of banging a stripper was amayzing. Honestly, she said some stuff during sex that still drives me wild today. We were together a few more times until her boyfriend got back. After all, I wasn't going to date her. She was one of the most honest people I ever met which was nice after being deceived. She told her BF what happened and he called me, and I convinced him to forgive her. Then I told him to wash his sheets! Haha kidding.
If you want to be with a stripper you must have your game face on and never deviate from the plan. If you get a couch dance, brag about yourself or stare at ass, you're going to be just another Joe and they'll never be interested. Basically do the opposite of what everyone in a strip club does.
Be mystical, polite, a little cocky and a somewhat damaged, and you'll get one. As for me, I'm average looking but tall. I was 28 at the time.
It gave me so much confidence that a year or so later I was dating my college professor. But that's a story for another time.
-NEVER got a lap dance
-Never let a girl catch me looking at her body for more than a split second
-Always ask the strippers about themselves and was super mystical when they asked about me. For example: so what's your job? "This and that."
-I never went at night
-I would watch the TV more than the girls, and sit alone"
I've had a handful of stripper friends-with-benefits. I will tell you, other than "never go at night" and "don't be cheap", I didn't follow a single part of your strategy -- in fact, to a pretty good extent I did the opposite, always: I always got dances, I was open about my admiration for her body and sexuality, am fine answering questions about me at least until my privacy limits (and, in fact, often told funny stories about myself), almost always SC with my buddies and never sit alone, and don't bother watching TV (nor am I so naive as to think I'm cleverly fooling the strippers into thinking I"m at a strip club but I don't care about naked girls lol). Opposite.
-->"If you want to be with a stripper you must have your game face on and never deviate from the plan. If you get a couch dance, brag about yourself or stare at ass, you're going to be just another Joe and they'll never be interested. Basically do the opposite of what everyone in a strip club does."
Again, I got dances, was always open about what I was there for (and let's be serious, do you really think you fooled the stripper into thinking you were at a strip club but totally disengaged, because you didn't "stare at ass"???), I basically followed the opposite of all your advice and got stripper benefits, not once, but a few times.
I think sometimes, we guys follow some goofy process that makes us feel like we're a genius, it leads to some success, and we attribute that success to the process. Likely, you luckily found the right girl at the right time, were perhaps a bit more handsome and interesting than you're letting on, etc. You got that stripper DESPITE all the mystical stuff and pretending you're above being in a strip club, not because of it, I'd bet.
Getting them a little drunk seems to be a common factor.
Being cute, trustworthy and charming all helps too, of course.
As a white guy I’ve noticed I have some extra game with other races.
I think it may help to tell them you’re from out of town too. That way they don’t have to worry about potentially fucking with their income by hooking up with a customer.
The girls in Vegas are wilder than most. A lot of girls travel from out of town and work the weekend or for a few weeks in town so they can make big bucks. They’re sometimes there by themselves and get lonely. I’ve had a high percentage of OTC chances there. It’s expensive to go strip clubbing in Vegas, though.
*I count it as free even if I bought some lapdances from them that night
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DATE/MANAGE STRIPPERS: HONEST ADVICE THAT WORKS
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The absolute easiest way .....
Work on your body
Be a bad boy and look like one
Have drugs
Be interesting to her, connect to her on HER level
Make her feel smart and act like you admire her hustle that makes her think shit is her idea
Be direct and confident
You can buy a few dances and maybe vip, definitely drinks just dont act like a trick
ask her to leave the club with you. maybe tip her out and pay the house fee to not be a dick.
Its very possible to fuck strippers without P4P even when you first meet them. Its just 99.99999% not likely the way most guys think.
The absolute easiest way .....
Work on your body
Be a bad boy and look like one
Have drugs
Be interesting to her, connect to her on HER level
Make her feel smart and act like you admire her hustle that makes her think shit is her idea
Be direct and confident
You can buy a few dances and maybe vip, definitely drinks just dont act like a trick
ask her to leave the club with you. maybe tip her out and pay the house fee to not be a dick.
Anyone who feels the need to tell people that they're giving good advice usually isn't giving good advice. Especially since you're a troll.
Lmfao!!
I prefer paying upfront.
LOL ... yeah, Phatboy's advice is nothing but things that "he" (as Ish points out, he's someone's troll persona) just recycled things he read on PUA websites, plus things he read about how pimps act. Everyone who posts here knows that, but maybe some of the lurkers don't.
I've been in FWB w/ strippers a few times. For me, all of those times happened with strippers who were my ATFs. That is, exactly the opposite of the tired PUA & phatboy's recycled-PUA advice about "don't buy lapdances, don't be a 'trick'". I never looked for this specifically, but over time things evolved this way. The last time it happened, once she retired from stripping, she just stopped charging me. I don't pay my ATATF anymore either... although those girls did & do expect high-$ experiences.
So, not claiming this is the universal advice for everyone, but the common pattern for me has been:
- Make her your ATF, spend like you would on any ATF ITC & OTC. Shoot to be her fave customer
- Evolve from ATF/customer to something close to SD/SB (in retrospect, I learned from my experiences on SA that that's what I've been doing). Treat her well, don't be an asshole, but also don't be a little bitch, don't take any shit or let her walk all over you. Don't call women "hoes" or "bitches"; don't put them on a pedestal or white knight her.
- When she starts seeking you out, you might be turning the corner. I felt pursued every time this happened.
Although I'm not sure how much you can really conclude from my 3 or so FWBs over 15 years lol... in any case, again, it's not something I look for, or care if it ever happens again.You don't want a stripper girlfriend man. Just tell your fucking friends to enjoy it for what it is, and get a job so they can afford OTC
That comes with strings attached though. Might want to pay them to leave because if they don't want to leave, hope you like being married.
I heard some stripper BF have jobs.
I suggest playing lots of video games so your girlfriend can complain about stuff you do.
Of course, she can always find someone else. How long do stripper boyfriends last? Until the next kid?
I was almost a strippers BF a couple of times. Close call. One stripper went so far as to act all pissed because she accused me of sleeping with another stripper in the same club. Drama queen. Super angry because she thought I was sleeping with another dancer in addition to her. Actually I thought about it. I saw the other dancer working in myrtle beach a couple years ago. She keeps popping up. I don't usually end up with any stripper unless I drink too much. Then I start agreeing to do stuff sometimes.
I don't leave clubs with complete strangers most of the time. Usually I have to get a lap dance or BJ first. Then I feel like I got to know her a little bit.
I heard that front room DFK happens when I treat a stripper as a civilian girl. Never feed a stripper money! Don’t act like she’s a sexualized fembot!
After looking deeply into her eyes, and DFKing for hours in the front room, she will beg you to take her home for a night of TLN sex!
You will wake up the next morning with her in your arms - and she will fall quickly in love with you.
If that approach fails, chloroform is a very useful option..
"- You're going to have to spend money. It will get her attention and make her notice you ITC. Don't get dances though. Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills and give her a few hundred dollar bills just because. These bitches associate everything with money. Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it. She will accept everything. Whats different when she likes you is her reaction to it. She’s gon feel special and treat you like a king, start doing shit for you in return. Ie buy you groceries, clean your place, cook for you, do her hair and nails how you want them, dress like you want her to, shes going to want to share shit like that with you. But remember, this is a very temporary stage. The goal is to get her interested enough to get hooked, eventually she’ll be the one giving you money cos she’s just going to associate it with her liking you and that’s how she expresses it. The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular."
anyways dont bury my advice in the bs. its great advice n shit
Its very possible to fuck strippers without P4P even when you first meet them. Its just 99.99999% not likely the way most guys think.
The absolute easiest way .....
Work on your body
Be a bad boy and look like one
Have drugs
Be interesting to her, connect to her on HER level
Make her feel smart and act like you admire her hustle that makes her think shit is her idea
Be direct and confident
You can buy a few dances and maybe vip, definitely drinks just dont act like a trick
ask her to leave the club with you. maybe tip her out and pay the house fee to not be a dick.
Also, your posting style in 'street thug' persona is cartoonish. It's a caricature and obviously someone playing a role that is unfamiliar to them outside of last episode of whatever bad cop show they watched.
You're a troll.
I don't know what you get out of this, but you seriously need a hobby to fill your free time.
Can I suggest going to a strip club for the first time?
Right, the poor advice, right down to "whatever you do, don't do lap dances" ("Don't get dances though") is straight out of the PUA handbook when it comes to strip clubs
-->"Also, your posting style in 'street thug' persona is cartoonish. It's a caricature and obviously someone playing a role that is unfamiliar to them outside of last episode of whatever bad cop show they watched."
Exactly. He/she read some articles from pimps, and randomly apes the phrasing and terminology. Like I said, whoever is behind it is probably having fun. Just want to make sure no one takes this persona, or the advice, seriously
I respect PhatBoy’s approach, as it works for him. I also respect Ishmael’s insights regarding women and clubs.
I’ve been in long term committed relationships, and it was great, but I’m no longer looking for one. I’m not looking for a soul mate or a relationship. I’m looking to fuck and not deal with the emotional ups and downs that accompany a relationship.
cashman, yeah the emotional part of relationships sucks, especially with strippers.
One other advice piece I’d give is that I would never ask for a girl’s phone number in a strip club. If they want you to have it they will offer it to you, in my experience. Now, whether its actually a sincere sign of them being attracted to you is something you’ll have to figure out yourself on a per case basis.
A dancer will give you her number, if she perceives you as someone who would be a good source of money from OTC sexual encounters.
Can someone who would be the strippers type have sex with her for free? Yes
Can someone old enough to be her dad or grandpa and or is not physically fit and or is very socially awkward have sex with her for free? No
Lol...
It's twentyfive.
fucker.
This latest one I did buy some lapdances but it was a good move cause it got us into a private room and once I got my hands on her she got all riled up and wet and started making out with me and it was game over from there.
We met up at a bar last night, had a few drinks and then went and fucked in her car in the parking lot, no money exchanged, shes just incredibly attracted to me, lol.
Mostly it’s guys who have game outside the club in real life who don’t really need to go into clubs, but when they do they lay forth some efforts and charm the ones who are ripe and ready to get charmed. Pretty simple formula and if you aren’t that kind of guy you’ll be paying.
(and $)
SJG