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Fritz That's It

Anaheim, California

So I stopped in after work...

So I stopped in after work to wait out traffic and there was an Angel's game on. Most patrons were ignoring the girls and concentrating on the game. 10 or so girls and all…

Eden Gentlemens Club

Plantation, Florida

went here after a late day...

went here after a late day at work.... nice looking club.. some good looking dancers... it was early tuesday, so it was slow... anyways, got a few dances, had a few drinks.... theres a 3 for 50…

Centerfolds

San Francisco, California

As others have noted, this club...

As others have noted, this club is a lot like other Deja Vu operations. Obnoxious DJ? Check. Constant pressure to buy dances? Check. It wasn't a total loss: the place is nice enough inside. I was a little…

Lusty Lady

San Francisco, California

Unimpressive, though kind of typical for...

Unimpressive, though kind of typical for San Francisco. No touching, of course. But there's also no real communication with the dancer, which is kind of a drag. The physical condition of this place is just revolting.…

Electric Blue Cafe

Tolland, Connecticut

stopped by the blue again. things have...

stopped by the blue again. things have gone downhill. so many low quality dancers. so many dancers that shouldnt take there clothes off. ever. anyway, we hung for awhile, there were a few options. i ended up…

Electric Blue Cafe

Tolland, Connecticut

Based on a recommendation from a...

Based on a recommendation from a friend, I stopped by this place to check it out. A dozen or so girls, not too crowded (but it was afternoon on a work day). Quality…

Private Dancer

Columbus, Ohio

I was back in Columbus and...

I was back in Columbus and again visited PD on a Monday (late afternoon to early evening) on the first shift from about 4pm to 6pm. There were 2 girls dancing and they were…

Cabaret Club

El Paso, Texas

The last two reviews (net scores...

The last two reviews (net scores 3.33 and 1.67) are believable as accurate, but the prior two reviews (net scores 8.33 and 8.00) are also believable as accurate. More than most clubs, Cabaret is…

Crystals

Thorold, Ontario

visited on thursday and friday. There...

visited on thursday and friday. There was no cover on Thusday but a $5 cover on Friday (after 8). This club is generally lightly attended before 9 but it starts to fill up by 10.…

Good Guys

Washington, D.C., District of Columbia

This was my first visit to...

This was my first visit to a DC area club. I was there from about 10:00 to 11:30 pm. There were 18 dancers working 3 stages in 3 song sets. I got…

Daydreams

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Went to this place after 6...

Went to this place after 6 years of thinking this place was only okay. The free beer was nice, you get 6 ticktets to trade in for like a 10oz cup of beer.…

Diamond Cabaret

Sauget, Illinois

Very attractive girls, esp. Candy and...

Very attractive girls, esp. Candy and Joclyn. Private dances are $40 per song, or $100 for 3 songs, so the $$ can go quick. Although YMMV, contact is decent-very good. In general, girls are AWFULLY…

Club Venus

Indianapolis, Indiana

This club is not too bad....

This club is not too bad. I was in on an afternoon. From what I could tell there were only 2 women working. neither of them were great lookers, but definitely tolerable. Drinks were fairly…

Zebra Club

Bridgeport, Connecticut

Visited Scruples on one of my...

Visited Scruples on one of my rare visits to CT, mainly because of the February review below that said Ruby's was dead due to recent law presence. Got there around 7:30 (?). Dead. One dancer was…

Ruby's II

Bridgeport, Connecticut

Went here after being disappointed at...

Went here after being disappointed at Scruples, the May 27 negative review below not withstanding. The place was even deader than Scruples, around 9 pm, but there was a shapely dancer on stage, so…

Masters Gentleman's Club

Myrtle Beach, South Carolina

I had the best time there...

I had the best time there and would love to go back with all those hotties. I've been the with my friends more than any other strip club in the US. The women there are…

Mynx Stratford

Stratford, Connecticut

Even though it says to "be...

Even though it says to "be the first to review Rumours" above, I recall previously having done so a year or so ago. My visit this time was very disappointing, so the ratings, and comments, are…

Millennium Cabaret

Bedford, New Hampshire

Stopped by Mark's after work to...

Stopped by Mark's after work to grab a beer and see some titties.... This place is a cool place to visit if you in the area. Its topless, girls are usually above average. Absolutly no…

Mons Venus

Tampa, Florida

Mons is nothing if not dependable....

Mons is nothing if not dependable. You may not go for the out-in-the-open atmosphere, and the mix of women might not suit your exact needs, but it's pretty consistent for talent and quantity.…

Rick's Cabaret

New Orleans, Louisiana

This club is in the heart...

This club is in the heart of Bourbon Street in the French Quarter, right in the midst of the tourist area. It is a very upscale club. Of course, the dancers are very…

Synn Gentlemen's Club

City of Industry, California

Decided to check this place out...

Decided to check this place out based on recent reviews. As a side note: my Magellan GPS did not recognize that street number in COI. I had to put in La Puente, even…

Rick's Cabaret Raleigh

Raleigh, North Carolina

Made a visit last Fri to...

Made a visit last Fri to see a certain dancer who was suppose to be working. Had sent her a email and she said she was working Fri,Sat and Sun but for whatever reason she…

Flight Club

Inkster, Michigan

I visited Flight Club once on...

I visited Flight Club once on a recent trip to Detroit. It was in the evening on a Tuesday (May 27). Maybe not the best time to go. But I had no other options.…

Club Fantasy

Los Angeles, California

The number of dancers on duty...

The number of dancers on duty was closer to 11 than to 25. Sundays and Mondays and Tuesdays are slower nights than the rest. On the one hand, it's good because there is less congesion…

Gold Club

Memphis, Tennessee

Traveled on by the Gold Club...

Traveled on by the Gold Club on a hot Thursday afternoon. There were about 10 dancers. Mostly 5-6's, a few better. The titty bars in Memphis are a mere shadow of their…

Fantasy Island

Los Angeles, California

I was in the area with...

I was in the area with a friend of mine so I decided to re-visit this club. I've been here before at night and it's usually pretty busy on the weekends. I wanted…

Bikes, Babes, and Beer

Havelock, North Carolina

I hadn't been here in ages...

I hadn't been here in ages since I saw so many rough looking characters last year. No place to get a dance, there's no VIP area, and all the chairs were taken up by local…

Déjà Vu Saginaw

Saginaw, Michigan

It's been about a year since...

It's been about a year since I've been to this club. There has been a drastic decline in the quality of dancers, although a few talented favorites remain: Taylor, Charisma, Tiarra, Mari and Alicia, to…

Epic Exotic Nightlife

Winston-Salem, North Carolina

They are now open for lunch....

They are now open for lunch. No cover charge before 6pm. They've done some remodeling since I was there last. Very clean and comfortable. There are 3 different VIP rooms now.…

Bucks Cabaret

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Stopped in here on a Friday...

Stopped in here on a Friday around 10pm. There was plenty of girls hanging around, all in 6 to 8 range. There were mostly skinny girls, but did have a few fuller figure…

Mickey's Gentlemen's Lounge

Cumberland, Rhode Island

Well, after visiting this club a...

Well, after visiting this club a couple of times during the day, I had wondered if I have given a fair accounting...I figured I'd give it one last shot....my last visit there was so lame…

Club Femme Nu

Honolulu, Hawaii

Visited Femme Nu on a Wednesday...

Visited Femme Nu on a Wednesday night about a month ago. Arrived at 7pm and initially it was disappointing. Some nice girls but no superstars. Around 8pm it all changed ... that's…

Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

My first visit ever to PP....

My first visit ever to PP. I went on a Wednesday and Thursday. My expectations were just to have some fun. I knew the girls would be good looking, the girls would be friendly, not necessarily…

Front Room

taboo2

has anybody heard of a new stripclub opening up in the chicagoland area or nw indiana called taboo2? Saw advertisment in paper but had no address on it.

Bagdad

Barcelona, Spain

Was here 3 years ago. Cute...

Was here 3 years ago. Cute girl on stage grabbed me, unzipped, mouth condomed, blew. Show was not as hot as marc1969 said, but i can believe him. Barcelona is fun - including the topless…

Peek a Boo

Portland, Oregon

I stopped in just to check...

I stopped in just to check it out. There were only two dancers working. Both black. One was maybe a 6, but the other one was huge and maybe a 4.…

Chantilly Lace

Portland, Oregon

Had some time to kill and...

Had some time to kill and thought I would stop in to see what it was like. There were about 6-7 dancers. Probably 7-8 guys hanging around. They play country music.…

Vixens Gentlemen's Club

Martinsburg, West Virginia

Stopped by as the club was...

Stopped by as the club was opening for the evening. Nice, modern looking with several stages. First several dancers were not head turners and they danced to rap, a big turn off. Then came a…

Passions Men's Club

New Orleans, Louisiana

Was passing through and hit Passions....

Was passing through and hit Passions. Building isn't well marked, which didn't help. Once I foudn it, paid my $10 and went up stairs. There were 3 girls working: two nice-looking, one chunky and…

Cabaret Club

El Paso, Texas

Stopped by on Tuesday. I know...

Stopped by on Tuesday. I know the looks of the girls varies greatly and you can usually find a descent looking girl to provide you the kind of service you want if you take your…

Ultra Gentlemen's Club

West Palm Beach, Florida

Maybe not the latest style, but...

Maybe not the latest style, but has it's own. While many clubs these days seem to invest in fancy decor, T's value is in it's atmosphere. I never have to deal with snotty staff, stuckup…

Adelita Bar

Tijuana, Baja California

Paid another visit to Adelitas recently....

Paid another visit to Adelitas recently. As with prior visits, you can always have a great time. Had three SOGs this time. Its pretty much as previously described --…

Coz's Eight Ball Lounge

Cadillac, Michigan

Stopped in Tuesday and enjoyed myself....

Stopped in Tuesday and enjoyed myself. Most of the dancers here have been at Coz's for several years. My favorite is Harley. She has a wonderful personality and gives great LDs.…

Choice Gentlemen's Club

Minneapolis, Minnesota

visited on a quiet night, got...

visited on a quiet night, got lots of attention from dancers as a result. friendly staff, aiming to please. a few 7's and 8's, mostly 5's and 6's. mileage varied widely, but…

Baby Dolls

Dallas, Texas

always a favorite spot on my...

always a favorite spot on my frequent visits to Dallas, you can expect to be entertained no matter when you visit because the dancers are consistently good looking, friendly, and always aiming to please. I…

Biggins

Daytona Beach, Florida

All I can say is WOW. I...

All I can say is WOW. I have never been to a worse club in all my years of going to strip clubs. There were only 3 or 4 girls working there at 11:00 at…

OG Gentlemen's Club

Las Vegas, Nevada

I can always count on Olympic...

I can always count on Olympic Garden during my trips to Las Vegas. Better mileage than other local clubs, but not quite the same level of looks as the others. The girls will…

Sugar's

Seattle, Washington

This review reflects conditions prior to...

This review reflects conditions prior to the recent happenings. Beautiful black girl with a perfect 10 body talked to me right after entering the club. Declined a dance and chekced out the rest of the…

Electric Blue Cafe

Tolland, Connecticut

Made a recent visit to EB....

Made a recent visit to EB. Got there about 8:00 on a Wednesday night. Not too crowded as the girls outnumbered the guys by about 2:1. On this night 4 girls ata…

Center Stage

Springfield, Massachusetts

Visited here on a Thursday night....

Visited here on a Thursday night. Very few customers (about 4-5) but a lot of dancers. However, while most were 5/6's there were a couple of 8's. Had a series of dances…

Bottoms Up Lounge

Akron, Ohio

Once you get past the run...

Once you get past the run down nature of the club, you can actually have some fun (at least by Ohio standards). The caliber of the girls was mixed, anywhere from a couple of 5s to…

Vixens Ybor Strip

Tampa, Florida

Back to Scarlett's again after quite...

Back to Scarlett's again after quite an absense.It's good to know some things in life stay the same. Mileage is still good; girl are still personable (for the most part). I had 2 very good…

Crush Gentlemen's Club

West Columbia, South Carolina

went here on the wend after...

went here on the wend after memorial day .......2 for 30 in the vip or 2 for 50 in the champagne roon took Marisa in the champagne room after a dance in the vip thought…

Dollhouse

Columbus, Ohio

I has been well over a...

I has been well over a year since I last visited. I figured I'd check them out and see what was going on. The first thing I noticed is that the club leans very…

Pazzazz Show Club

West Carrollton, Ohio

Used to like this place when...

Used to like this place when i was in college. Stopped by there on the way home from work this night. Few beers etc. Beers were cold.…

Cheeks Gentleman's Club

West Carrollton, Ohio

Visited Cheeks after going Pazzazz this...

Visited Cheeks after going Pazzazz this night. Should have come here first. At least there were some dancers. Not all great. None really bad. Only one was a real…

Déjà Vu Lake Forest Park

Lake Forest Park, Washington

Went there on a thursday evening....

Went there on a thursday evening. It was my first time to the Lake City Deja vu. I have been to a couple other Vu's before but I usually go to Fox's since I live…

Cabaret Club

El Paso, Texas

I went to this place last...

I went to this place last night on the strength of a few of the past reviews. The cover was $10 and it's BYOB. $3.50 gets you a bucket of ice. This…

Foxy

El Paso, Texas

This place was a lot better...

This place was a lot better than the visit of my last review. There were a lot 7's and 8's. Including a girl named Stephanie that used to dance at the RP.…

Cadillac Lounge

Providence, Rhode Island

Stopped by the Caddy on a...

Stopped by the Caddy on a recent Wednesday evening. A wide quality range of women are available (3-8's). Met up with Eve, a sweet milf type who looked just as sexy in street clothes (it…

Sugar Shack

Lake Geneva, Wisconsin

This is one of two strip...

This is one of two strip clubs I have visited in Wisconsin, the first one being the Airport Lounge. I definitely thought ths one was way better. I prefer the nude clubs so I decided…

Club Bristol

Sun Prairie, Wisconsin

This club is ok, which makes...

This club is ok, which makes it the best in the Madison area. 5 girls dancing the night I was there. Ranging in looks from 4 - 8. A couple of the girls…

Anthony's

South Hadley, Massachusetts

Well, I finally got a chance...

Well, I finally got a chance to swing by Anthony's. The reviews from this site made it sound like 'my kind of club'. I went on Wednesday afternoon, around 3:30, on my way…

Front Room

Craig's List computer help please - unrelated

I recently found something that I'd like to purchase on Craig's List. But when I try to contact the person listed it won't let me, I get a message saying they don't support the type of system that my…

Tony's Place

Baltimore, Maryland

The kind of place where dancers...

The kind of place where dancers lay out hankies on the bar stools before they sit down. This is one of those reviews where I've got to give the place low marks because ratings…

Bar L'Axe

Montréal, Quebec

Went here on a tip from...

Went here on a tip from dancer at SC. It was Sat evening around 9:30pm and absolutely zero dancers to be found anywhere. The place was empty. Around 10pm we noticed some…

The Brass Ass Lounge

Newport, Kentucky

I'm with MarkScandal, and wish to...

I'm with MarkScandal, and wish to publicly thank him for his review. The combination of low ratings and the misleading Bikini Club listing kept me away for years, which I now regret. Once I figure…

Brass Bull

Newport, Kentucky

Similar to the co-owned Brass Mule...

Similar to the co-owned Brass Mule across the street - see my review there for overall trend. The Bull on the night I went had fewer dancers and of a more variable quality. No VIP…

Miss Kitty Showgirls

East St. Louis, Illinois

I have been to a few...

I have been to a few of the clubs in the area and decided to try out Kitty's. I was not impressed. Got there about 11 and they pushed us out the door…

Wild Orchid Gentlemens Club

Reno, Nevada

this club continues to disapoint. this...

this club continues to disapoint. this is the third or fourth time i've been in during the afternoon and nothing is going on. there's 1 to 2 girls working and that's more than there are…

Night Shift

Baltimore, Maryland

I was just really lazy not...

I was just really lazy not to have ever dropped by this club. Heard it was a cool place. Also heard once I finally showed up that the place was bought by the…

Kaos Grill and Gentlemen's Club

Parkville, Maryland

The menu here is about the...

The menu here is about the size of a bookmark, which is odd considering it has grill in the name. Beers are $4 draft, and they have some imports on tap along with domestics.…

Fox's

Tacoma, Washington

Hit the club on a Friday...

Hit the club on a Friday night about 9 PM. Place was just getting going and the dancers where really selling hard. Most were pretty nice and took "not right now" pretty well.…

Hot Lap Dance

New York, New York

Had a great time in the...

Had a great time in the past here - was in town again and decided to go over. Membership card saves a few bucks but its still pretty expensive to get in.…

Keepers Gentlemen's Club

Milford, Connecticut

Keepers sits right near the pilot...

Keepers sits right near the pilot gas station in Milford CT and is easy to find. Once inside one can get a reasonably priced drink from one of their very friendly bartenders. As for the…

Xposed Gentlemens Club & WetSpot Bikini Bar

Canoga Park, California

Went to Xposed on a Monday...

Went to Xposed on a Monday after a half-day at work. Was there at 2pm and there were 2 guys and 5 girls. Only 3 of the 5 girls were attractive. The…

The Palace Gentlemen's Club

San Antonio, Texas

I visited a lot of clubs...

I visited a lot of clubs some of them had $5 table dances. The girls were unfortunately only worth $5, so we went to try the Palace. The dances here were $20 but, the ladies…

Riverport Tavern

Sarnia, Ontario

Back in Sarnia and figured I...

Back in Sarnia and figured I would stop by the "port" to relive some old memories. It was a Thursday evening about 7 and while they didn't have to many dancers, several of the…

Cruisin' Chubbys Gentlemen's Club

Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin

I...

I was thru here last weekend on my way to Minoqocua to visit some friends and I kinda liked this joint. I have been here before and it has…

No 5 Orange Showroom Pub

Vancouver, British Columbia

This was my first visit to...

This was my first visit to No 5 Orange, and I was quite pleasantly surprised. First the odd stuff. Yes, the stage dancers are nearly completely separate from the lap/private dancers. A dancer explained…

Bourbon Street

Phoenix, Arizona

Arrived on Wednesday at 5:30 PM....

Arrived on Wednesday at 5:30 PM. $8 cover charge. The cashier gives you a receipt; don't crumple it up, you need to give it to the doorman to get in. The club isn't quite as dark…

Vixens Ybor Strip

Tampa, Florida

I had been here before and...

I had been here before and it became one of my favorite clubs in Tampa because of the laid back feel. Of course the little short Puerto Rican girl I saw there kind of helped…

Gold Club

San Francisco, California

Went to Gold Club for the...

Went to Gold Club for the first time in 5 years. It looks more upscale than before. Upstairs looks like a nice restaurant with just a few booths on the side for private dance.…

Players Club

Rosedale, Maryland

Wandered in on a recent Sunday...

Wandered in on a recent Sunday for some reason I can't really remember. This might've been after running through Sparrows Point looking for clubs that no longer exist since I wound up with extra…

The Crazy Horse

San Francisco, California

After hanging out at the Gold...

After hanging out at the Gold Club for an hour and a couple of expensive drinks and air dances, went over to Crazy Horse to get some real action. It is a slow night,…

T & A's

Fairview, New York

Has changes it's name to T...

Has changes it's name to T & A's. It also looks like it redid the inside as the furniture and the lap dance cubicles are new. They seemed to have spruced the place…

2001 Odyssey

Tampa, Florida

On my way out of town...

On my way out of town I decided to drop by a second time. Thursdays this spot is open until 5 am, so it wasn't a hard choice since the other clubs were shutting…

Rick's Cabaret

Portland, Maine

Marks's Topless Donut Shop is open...

Marks's Topless Donut Shop is open located in the lap dance area at Platinum Plus, and is one more example of new and different ways to present adult entertainment to an eager (usually male) general…

Win Place & Show Bar

Louisville, Kentucky

Used the "free" pass in the...

Used the "free" pass in the paper to get in. As other reviewers have said, this is a nude club, so no alcohol. More on that later. Went in the afternoon, after a meeting at…

Mons Venus

Tampa, Florida

What can I say I live...

What can I say I live in a place that has some great clubs and great dancers. See the flight club Detroit. I was here on business and have heard all about this legendary club.…

Gold Cup

Houston, Texas

Stopped by on a Thursday night...

Stopped by on a Thursday night last week. About 20 dancers ranging from 5-7. There is one large stage in the center with 3 smaller side stages. I got a couple of laps in the…

La Chambre

Detroit, Michigan

See the reviews of late and...

See the reviews of late and just duplicated them. This is an ok local bar with girl next door looks and friendly cheers bar staff. I got a few drinks and a few dances with…

Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

I think this is one of...

I think this is one of the best in SC, arrived at 3:00 in the afternoon. I like going to clubs in the afternoon, seems like policies are less restrictive and since there are less…

Sonny's BYOB

Robinson, Texas

ive had alot of fun on...

ive had alot of fun on several occasions here. Since its opened back up the girls and atmosphere are still great. Depending on when you visit you can find some of…

Bobby's Bar

Melrose Park, Illinois

Stopped by here about a month...

Stopped by here about a month ago. The crowd was small and there was a ballgame on the TV. Crazy asian sue tried to corral me but I avoided the entrapment. I…

Lust Gentlemen's Club

South Amboy, New Jersey

I will post a review at...

I will post a review at another time. I am now involved in a NJ strip club trek. So sometime soon I will be posting my reviews of here and other NJ clubs. I got lost…

Cheetah Palm Beach

West Palm Beach, Florida

This bar seems to be changing...

This bar seems to be changing into a more expensive higher class club. In the days it used to have the neighborhood feel to it, but alot of that is gone now. The dancers are…

Players Club

Rosedale, Maryland

I continue to be surprised that...

I continue to be surprised that this club recieves such a high ranking. I don't think it is even the best club in the Baltimore area. The girls at McDougals are much prettier…

PT's Showclub Louisville

Louisville, Kentucky

Business was pretty slow when I...

Business was pretty slow when I stopped by while in town again recently. Still a friendly place and decent girls but it was so quiet that everyone was pretty laid back and the girls…

Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

I made a quick visit to...

I made a quick visit to PP this past Tuesday afternoon, arriving just before happy hour at 4 pm. When I entered, I didn't see but one dancer sitting at the bar and one…

Bare Fax

Ottawa, Ontario

Do not have many clubs to...

Do not have many clubs to compare to as my experiences are limited to date. Had a good time.Not too much pressure and the women were hot - but not as hot as Spearmint Rhino…

Players Club

Rosedale, Maryland

This club continues to deliver great...

This club continues to deliver great entertainment. Two stages and dancers rotate after one song. Weeday night I attended was 10-12 girls raning from a 6-9. Place is laid back and BYOB.…

Front Room

Weed, OTC, legal question... (not ENTIRELY off-topic)

I thought maybe someone here would no the answer to this question... (first some background info) I don't do drugs, though have tried MJ in the past (never felt anything, so why use it?) Anyhow, a few times I've OTCed…

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Drug tests.

BY law, I am subject to random drug testing. Over the past 25 or 30 years, I have been tested about 10 times. It doesn't bother me. I get an hour of overtime pay for spending 20 minutes pissing in…

Front Room

4 day work week. Yeah I know off topic.

There has been a lot of talk about this lately due to the high cost of gas. Work 10 hour shifts for 4 days and then have 3 off. This can work for many occupations. My office is open 24/7/365. We…

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Advertising on TUSCL

founder: Hey, I don't mind the new ads on TUSCL -- you have to make a buck where you can......but I do find the ad for "Cam Boys Live" beyond the scope of TUSCL....LOL !!!

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drinking dancers

how long can a dancer dance who is 30 and drinks 10 vodka drinks every nite.leonard3

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Waitress turned dancer.

The most gorgeous cocktail waitress that I have ever seen in my favorite club just turned stripper. 2 months ago, I joking asked her if she was ever going to strip. She replied that she was thinking about it. Well,…

Front Room

The Battle of the Sexes

When I was younger I was raised to be "nice to women" and also a "feminist" in the nicest possible way -- this meant, that I basically assumed that any human who could do the job, deserved equal pay; that…

Front Room

Travel companion results

I took my young dancer on my business trip and it went pretty well. We had a slightly bumpy start because she picked up a bad cold that moved into her bronchial tubes just before we left, so she…

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You ever decide just to stay home and save your money?

I did tonight. Didn't get as much sleep as normal either. Gas prices keep going up along with all the other bills. Maybe I'll play a pc game, haven't done that in a long time. I…

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Memphis Platinum Plus and Tunica Caberat

Anyone know the status of these two clubs? I actually enjoyed the Tunica Club - which was in Memphis, just like the PP in Memphis but not as crowded. I know that they were shut down but I…