review comment
4 years ago
I think it's interesting that a guy going to strip clubs is getting bent out of shape over $20. Really? Unless the situation is that one had to scrimp and save for several weeks just to have a spare hundred or so to make the trip worthwhile.
discussion comment
4 years ago
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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
Give me 3-4 hunds and I'll help you get it spent pronto!
review comment
4 years ago
I've done this a couple of times at Christy's over the years. If you see somebody you like, you can always ask the waitresss who the dancer is and slip her $5 bucks to mention that there's a potential dance back in the corner. You might have to wait 15-20 minutes, but I've had good luck getting a dancer I'm interested in to come over.
discussion comment
4 years ago
The reason I see escorts or go to strip clubs is because I'm too old and/or ugly to score a decent-looking piece of early 20's civvie. Of course, I do a lot of research and pass up a lot of unacceptable strippers online and in clubs because my standards are probably far higher than a guy like me should have. If I could score the quality I'm looking for in normal life, I would have no need to pay for it.
discussion comment
4 years ago
The only time I got the stripper handshake was a few years ago in Phoenix. Went to the VIP, got the full on BJ, lots of fondling wherever I wanted to go and needed some clean-up at the end. And she was really hot. I considered it a win.
discussion comment
4 years ago
No cable for about 5 years. Don't even have a TV anymore. Netflix and mlb.com are all I have. Following D-2 basketball in the winter (while it was happening) via the school websites. Been reading a lot more, which is a good thing. Generally, the books are far better than the movies.
discussion comment
4 years ago
Honestly, in terms of club details, the only thing I care about is whether or not the club is in an awful area or has a thug-vibe inside. I'm not worried about whether a beer is 6 or 7 dollars. where the stage/bar is or if the bathroom has an attendant. Lap dances are universally about $20 on the floor, and I'm not gonna get picky about an extra $5 bucks higher or lower.
What I'm really concerned about is the qualify of dancers(young spinners are the best), mileage and possible extra's. Since I'm only in clubs about 5-8 times a year, during vacations, I don't want to waste my time and money in a place with ugly, big or old dancers. I also don't want to waste my time in a club where nothing is going to happen except a little grinding. I understand that there's always the possibility that you might run into the One Dancer in an otherwise tame club, that is willing to have more fun than the usual, but it's like the needle in the haystack. Although it would be awesome to know which dancers are the really fun ones, I understand the need for discretion. But as a non-regular who loves to have fun when I do go out, it would be nice to know, with some degree of reliability, where to go and who to look for.
Back in 16-17, I had 3 of the best 4 experiences of my life, (pretty much the ultimate experiences) at a place called Cheetah's in Phoenix. Since then, my standards are probably way too high. Unfortunately, that place has gone completely downhill in terms of attractive dancers, 3 straight springs, and not a single attractive dancer to be found.
When I look at a review, I'm looking for information that indicates I might find my standards met by a dancer I find attractive, with a ballpark idea of VIP price points. I appreciate the reviews that can do that with-out necessarily naming names.
discussion comment
4 years ago
And if you're hoping for a young and fit "8" or better, you'd better think in terms of 350-400.. My rent (controlled) has gone up 25% from 5 years ago. It's not shocking to me that the price of a high-quality hour of fun has also increased by about the same.
discussion comment
4 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Pretty sure part of the reasoning is that, should somebody's kid, or a coach or training staff get sick and/or die, the family of the victim(s) won't just come after the school, but the conference and probably the NCAA as a whole for many millions of dollars. No reasonable guarantee the school, conference/NCAA will win either. Nobody wants to be the one that made the call that costs that much money and creates a public relations nightmare that they may never recover from. Are they playing it too safe? Maybe, but with as much as there is to lose on many different fronts with this, I don't blame them for protecting their own.
discussion comment
4 years ago
When I think about it, I kinda consider myself a PL in that I actually have to pay money to see a hot girl naked, or get sex from a reasonably attractive partner. If I don't pay, there is no chance of me getting any love from an acceptable-looking woman. Over 40 years of the only women interested in getting frisky with me are women I would never want to see naked. Yeah, I have Ferrari standards with my Yugo looks. :( That's kinda sad.
On the other hand, I see plenty of guys who are willing to settle for far less than I would just to get laid or see naked boobies. I see them as PL's too. Which is worse? Not getting any unless you pay or having to severely lower your standards to get any?
discussion comment
4 years ago
I've had 3 in my life, all from Phoenix. One had apparently changed her number by the time I came back into town a year later. The 2nd, ghosted me when I reached out a couple of times later in the week. And the 3rd, last spring, responded to let me know that I should come by the club that night, as they were shutting down for COVID. The only time I ever really hit the clubs is when I come to Phoenix for spring training. (I go kinda nuts for a week every March) At home, it's a 90 minute drive to any clubs worth going to, which isn't really worth the effort unless I'm already have another reason to be down there anyway.
review comment
4 years ago
Would be interested to know which of those dancers falls into the under 25 range and which of them falls into the around 5'-5'3" with-out heels and about a 100-110 pounds (petite, slender, tight & no stretch marks) range. Even though the only time I'm in Phoenix is around spring training time, it would be nice to know if the type of dancer I'm attracted to is likely to be available. Also, although I know it can vary from dancer to dancer and customer to customer (sometimes they're not feelin' ya), a general idea of VIP mileage would be helpful. Over the years, I've discovered that low mileage from a hot dancer is not good, but I'd rather have that than high mileage from a not hot dancer. Prefer A over B, since it's possible she'll improve the dances as she gets comfortable with you. On the other hand, people rarely get better looking..
review comment
4 years ago
I was there for an hour last March, a couple of days before the pandemic shut them down. Probably around 8 or 9 at night. I think there were 5 girls working, only one was even close to slender and she was older (late 30's-early 40's, eeww). She mentioned she'd been dancing nearly 20 years and she looked pretty hard and used up. I got a VIP dance from one girl, because she was friendly and had pretty eyes, but bolted after that. $25/dance in the little VIP area this guy described. She had the Big Girl boobs, but was unfortunately also big everywhere else. Fondling allowed everywhere except where G-String was, some nursing, but not inspiring because I didn't think she was attractive.
As I've mentioned before, I had 4 of my best dance experiences of all time in that club, but it was back in 16-17 when they actually had some attractive women working. The last 3 years have been pretty awful, Bandaids level talent. Actually, Bandaids actually had one a couple years ago that was far more attractive than anything I've seen at Cheetah's in 3 years now. Very disappointing, because the club has promise, if they could just get decent looking women to work there like they did 4-5 years ago.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Since I tend to go for young, tight, very petite and the fact you can't see her face to see if she's even a little attractive, I would probably pass.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Not a fan of hair down there.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Over the last 30 years, I have probably averaged $20 per year. I probably waste more than that on stupider stuff, but we all probably have. Like, how many times have I wasted 10 bucks on a complete air dance or bought a drink for a woman who, it turned out, was completely unattracted to me? So far, I've won $10 once, $4 another time and gotten a free play on the next drawing about 5 times. I never play Scratch Offs.
discussion comment
5 years ago
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48-CowboyForcing Baby Boomers To Stop Being Babies
I would be the first to counter with Phoebe Cates in her Fast Time days and that SI Swimsuit model Paulina Poritzkova in the mid-80's. And then there's........ Forget it, I can't remember all of their names, but it seems there's been at least a couple every decade that I liked better than Carmen. Beyonce, the singer, is another than comes to mind, based on pictures I saw from 10 years ago. Unfortunately, they pretty much all start to lose it once they get into their mid-to-upper 30's. Of course, if you like the thick thighs, then your tastes are probably completely different than mine.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Tuesday, March17. Have never had the chance to OTC. Gotten a couple of phone numbers over the past couple years, but when I called- Crickets. To be fair, I pretty much only go to clubs when I'm in Az. for Spring Training and I seem to get the numbers on my last day in town. ("Call me when you're back in town!") Of course, when I get back a year later, those numbers are likely no good anymore. Once every couple of years, I might find time to hit a club in Sacramento, but that's obviously not enough to really develop a rapport with anybody.
review comment
5 years ago
I went in Sat. nite 3/14 and found a girl named Trinity who was a cut above the rest (if you don't mind a fair amount of ink). She was the only one out of about 10 dancers that was even close to what I'm usually looking for. Got a little more view than expected in the VIP area by the time the 2nd dance rolled around. Typical groping/kissing boobs with close, but not quite touching downstairs. ($25/dance and I got 3) Was going to go back to see her and try 30 minutes on Sunday, but got sidetracked. Had planned to find her on Wed. or Thursday, but I guess the club got shut down Tuesday night. A shame. I thought she might be fun.
review comment
5 years ago
If you look at all the decent quality escorts in the area, they are at least $350 an hour. I've been checking a few sites regularly since the first of the year and if you have high standards, you're paying at least that much. Obviously, you pay a bit of a premium at a strip club because it's a strip club and there are more people involved in letting things happen and they need to be tipped for their discretion.
review comment
5 years ago
All I know is that in 2016 and 2017, 3 different women gave me 4 of my all-time greatest strip club experiences. *Everything I could have hoped for, and all 3 girls were a 7 or better. Slender redhead with big fake boobs. A slender-to-athletically built girl with a slight gap in her front teeth and a very petite, cute Hispanic girl with incredible nipples. All were definitely in their early 20's, which is absolutely my preference. It was amazing!!! Of course, none of them were still there when I came back to visit. I was back in 2018 and again last year and the talent was pretty much non-existent. It was awful! Chunky, old and/or ugly. I'm coming back to Phoenix in a week and I'll give it another chance. If the day-shift has cute girls, I'm sure I'll have fun. Judging by the reviews in the past year, I'm afraid that things are still at the 18-19 levels as opposed to the 16-17 levels of talent.
review comment
5 years ago
Coming over in March. Curious about which dancers are in that 21-25 range and petite (100 pounds or so)
review comment
5 years ago
I like how you were able to keep track of all the girls and give them a rating. Just tough to know what constitutes a 9 for you as compared to what might rate a 9 for me. I may have a higher standard than some, but 10 is actual sex in the VIP. A 9 would have to be an intimacy level just slightly below what would get a 10. Nips in mouth and hands allowed anywhere, (over the clothes in certain areas) could get a 7. Am I anywhere close to what your standards are? In any case, good information to help choose a dancer.
review comment
5 years ago
It's sad and ironic that the exact information I want from a site like this is also the exact information that will cause a problem for a club and/or lessening of a great time in said club, and therefore cause me to stop going to that club because it I can't get the value and fun that I'm looking for. At the same time, the lack of this exact type of information can also keep me out of a club, because (due to time/$$ restraints) I want to KNOW that the value and fun I'm looking for is available before I waste my time and $$ going into said club. The Circle continues to circle.
review comment
5 years ago
All I know is that I went to the Bourbon once about 3 years ago. Will admit that pretty much of the dancers were pretty good looking and pretty fit. I took one up to the VIP area for a couple of dances. She had an Asian look, but I don't remember who it was. Since it was that long ago, she's probably not there anyway. Less 2-way than I've gotten used to in Phoenix in that she allowed "some minor" fondling of the boobs, but seemed to prefer that I didn't. She seemed to want my face and hands between her boobs as opposed to on them. Near the end of the 2nd dance, I leaned in to lick some nipple and that was a definite No-Go. At that point, I figured that this club is more for looking than fondling and haven't been back since.