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5 years ago
That's correct TFP, I was unaware of Waffle as a tuscl member and of posts re her travels
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
-->@O.P Papi: "Ever noticed a dancer that caught your eye b/c she danced very-well; and by very-well not necessarily sexually or b/c she was showing you her tits which of course is always appreciated."
In the SC, I equate dancing well with dancing sexually and don't separate the two. Sensual performance generates bigger tip by me to dancer. Impressive acrobatic pole work also generates bigger tip because I find it entertaining and want to reward the effort. Twerking does nothing for me, and neither does lazy prancing around the pole with no sensuality.
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5 years ago
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whodeyFat bastard that can afford to fuck hot strippers
Deceased girl's mother quoted in article as grievingly stating: "“A duty of care exists in any relationship. If someone is obviously in danger, one has a legal obligation to take steps to help."
Moral obligation? Sure. Legal obligation? No.
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5 years ago
-->@shadowcat:"More than a mouthful is a waste."
I've been hearing that once since I was in high school. I'm not a subscriber. More than a mouthful is fun.
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5 years ago
The loud phone talking douchebag described reminds me of the Ken the stockbroker character in Breaking Bad that was doing the loud phone bragging/talking in the bank and had the KENWINS license plate. I couldn't find the clip of that scene but here's the clip from later that episode where Walter White blows up his car, which was awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GI4rwSqrEk
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5 years ago
You can pull OTC out of the Fantasy Girls club but if you're only there for one night and are looking for a sure thing it may not be worth it to wait she gets off shift at closing time which is 4 AM.
No experience with its sister club Spice House across the I've heard you can pull OTC out of there too.
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5 years ago
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PutaTesterWest Coast. He who dies with the most memories wins.
Nice review, thank you
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5 years ago
I've passed on opportunities with various co-workers over the years. I don't regret any of those because those girls would've never kept their mouths shut about it and the consequences wouldn't have been worth it. Well, I suppose I regret one of those because she was sizzling hot, but she was also my admin assistant.
The one I regret is a Puerto Rican chick I met when traveling Europe during summer in college and we spent a week together sharing room as we traveled through cities we had as mutual desinations. She said she was a virgin and wanted to save it for marriage. We made out a lot in shared room and final night she opened her legs and said let's do it. I declined based on what she'd stated about virginity. My youthful chivalry has since died and I regret that one.
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5 years ago
^ NPUP - that would be a good tuscl username
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5 years ago
That was a good article.
I had bought the Tom Ford Tabacco Vanille but returned it after wearing it a few times, it was too strong as was Muddy9’s experience.
Recently wearing mostly Dior Sauvage when clubbing
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5 years ago
Thank you for accepting the mission TFP, you're a trooper
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5 years ago
Those Singapore Air stewardesses are so hot in the body tight, tailored outfits the airline has them wear. @reverend, with your penchant toward Asian girls those stewardesses must drive you nuts
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5 years ago
As Cristobal said, to each their own. But would I? Fuck no, unless there were a way to be certain I am her first arriba of the day. I have no interest in ingesting a prior PL's splooge if he did the girl BB or the latex flavor if it was covered. Yuk
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5 years ago
^Sorry, I didn't mean "unlimited mileage" I meant unlimited access north and south. This place has no closed door rooms (at least not that I'm aware of) and the VIP dance area is a big open room with chairs and divider walls and I've never observed BJ or FS being performed
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5 years ago
My guess is the 3/100 sales pitch is a lingering thing from last year and previous when this place was $20 per dance in VIP room.
Back then there was a sign at VIP entry that said $20 per dance, but if you wanted mileage the girls would negotiate their own rate and would start at 3/100 but you could negotiate 4/100 with unlimited mileage and sometimes even 5/100 during weekday dayshift.
Then this past winter the sign changed and it now says something to the effect of tame dance is $20 per and touching is $30 per. This is the only place I've seen a sign like that and it's humorous - I wish someone would take a photo of sign and post it in the photo section of this club - I haven't taken the photo because every time I pass the sign I'm with a girl.
Now I just pay the $30 per song and talk to girl in advance re what mileage will be like unless she puts off an I'm Loose vibe before proceeding to the VIP.
Anyway, seems to me the overpriced 3/100 quote ($33 per) is a carryover from the before-the-sign-changed days.
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5 years ago
Billy and Harry?
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5 years ago
ithinkidontgetit
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5 years ago
—>@subraman: a review which focuses on the girls (without compromising them!) is more useful than the 10th review in a row which mentions drinks cost $8 and the stage is round and on the left. “
Nailed it. Yes, I would prefer that reviews check all the boxes. And it’s too bad many reviewers are too lazy to do that. Me personally, I approve if they provide acceptable intel without checking all boxes. But the intel most appreciated is the girls, what mileage is available in the club, and the dance/room pricing
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5 years ago
-->"I don't mean to be a dick, but if Pete put as much time and effort into the review as he did his OP complaint, it would have been published."
Apparently rejection is a difficult thing to psychologically manage. Backlash from rejection by a sexy dancer is more understandable than backlash from rejection by anonymous PLs on a strip club review site.
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5 years ago
I'm not afraid of anything and get to choose the way I spend my money without taking your trolling into account
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5 years ago
Here's my quasi-Article on the topic but submitted in discussion thread:
CHANGE IN CALIF LAW:
The shift of dancers from independent contractors (ICs) to employees in California was caused by a Calif Supreme Court opinion, not a legislative act. Court opinion was issued in April 2018 and was not stripper specific. The IC versus employee test it established made it impossible for lots of types of workers (strippers included) to continue to be classified as ICs. Whether you agree or disagree with the court's opinion or are pro-labor or anti-labor is immaterial – it established a legal precedent and any employer not conforming would be taking a major risk. DV owns most all San Fran clubs. In October 2018 the DV clubs all switched over to the employee model and a girl could not get on the floor until the girl signed the employment contract. Why DV waited 6 months to do the switch is unknown to me. It had to have been a risk management decision. It's unlikely DV desired the switch because now they have to deal with payroll and withholding and lots of labor laws (rest breaks, meal breaks, etc.).
THE CHANGE SUCKS FOR DANCERS:
Here's what I know about the TL DV clubs (I don't frequent DV FN clubs because other than Centerfolds the girls are generally not good looking there):
-- I haven't seen the contract but I have seen girls' pay stubs.
--The girls get paid minimum wage for hours worked during shift. Club keeps some first amount of dance and room earnings per shift ($150 I think it is) and pays the minimum wage out of that amount.
--As ICs, girls used to keep 67% of what they made off rooms and club kept 33%. Clubs now taking a dramatically bigger % of the room fees than before. I don't know what the stripper/club % split was for dances under the IC regime but the girls say club is taking way more than before.
Here's what the girls say (and I mean multiple including CFs that stayed):
--They uniformly hate it. They want to be ICs again. No girl has told me they prefer the employee setup.
--They make dramatically less money.
THE CHANGE SUCKS FOR PLS:
The new employment regime sucks at the TL clubs and here's my first hand knowledge reasons:
--The tip hustle has increased dramatically as the girls seek to compensate for the income drop.
--There was a mass exodus of girls. 3 I could classify as CFs left immediately. About 2 dozen other girls I used to like watching on stage and occasionally get dances from are gone. The ones who've stayed are the ones seeing themselves as having no other options.
-- Penthouse is dead because of the exodus - I haven't been back since and don't intend to return. Gold Club is still busy – I suspect that's because it's always had the best looking girls and is close to the convention center hotel corridor and gets more PLs. Some girls transitioned from PH to GC and there's also some new talent but not as good as before due to the exodus. I don't know about Hustler because my recent visits there at off hours have not been good (low quality talent).
--In May, room rates increased 25%. Rooms rates were already high but now I'm done with rooms forever.
--The floor dance and VIP chair dance prices have increased but I'm not sure how much. I heard the floor dances increased from $20 to $40 per and the VIP chairs increased from 3/$100 to 3/$140. I'd appreciate someone confirming what the new dance pricing is. If it's by that amount then SCing in SF will for me be mostly drinking and watching and not touching. That is a crying shame.
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5 years ago
I was in Dallas and driving during that storm on Sunday that knocked out the power and it was crazy so I'm not surprised there was damage and long term power outages. The big orange drums on side of freeway separating roadwork from freeway lanes were blowing all over in the lanes. On sidestreets there were trees splitting down the middle from the wind and big branches were flying all over the place. Right in front of me the big parking lot sign from a fast food place blew down and shattered the sign all over the roadway. News reports later that day showed a construction crane toppling into an apartment building, killing 1 and injuring 5.
Texan thunderstorms still better than Calif earthquakes or southeastern US hurricanes but it was nuts.
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5 years ago
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Jascoimr.wonderful to single moms and college age girls...
I may not agree with everything founder says or does but I'm amused by the way he says it and his curtness. Thank you for the sandbox founder
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5 years ago
^Yes. Bring her flowers next time you’re at the club
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5 years ago
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AtAboyStill learning to proofread
Does she know? No, it would = instant divorce.
How do I explain where I was? Not really, because I go when she's out of town or when I'm out of town but I have to exercise caution and sometimes have plausible explanation for why I'm not answering phone calls or responding to texts.
Do I go because she doesn't dig sex? No, I go because viewing and having my hands on beautiful women in their 20s - 30s with perky tits and tight asses is amazing. Have never encountered a stripper older than mid-30s but if I were to find a milf stripper in great shape I would be into it.
Have you ever considered bringing your spouse and doing the couples thing? No way, and would never suggest it because there's no chance she'd be into it.