Comments by a21985 (page 20)

Lump sum for sure, it's pretty common knowledge that that the annuity is a bum deal if you're half intelligent and can get even a partially competent financial advisor. I wouldn't go nuts with strippers, though I certainly imagine I'd go to clubs more often, not feel as guilty about how much I spend per trip, and probably have a few more greek and OTC sessions. Making it more obvious I have a lot of money just makes me more of a mark than anything to a stripper, which is something I would want to avoid. Besides charity and crazy money to splurge to get it out of my system, the bulk of my money would go to long term, low risk, low reward investments and/or some fast food franchising if I can get the right people to know how to make a franchise dynasty successful. I'd probably also get a small business where profit isn't a huge concern to keep my wife and I busy (like an independent bookstore).

Back with my old ATF, I somehow got a reputation as a small whale because of how much I spent on her. If she wasn't around other girls would come by and sit next to me and try to get dances and drinks from me. Got some front of the house fun (OTP hj, dfk, wet fingers) with no intention of spending money on them outside of a drink or there or a small tip sent their way during their stage set. Since my ATF kinda ran the place and had a mini posse of loyal dancer friends that would protect her regulars from other girls, there wasn't much the others could do or say when I finally shot them down. Though this could now backfire at that club since I've moved on from my ATF...

Kind of, but I still thought it was a bunch of guys over exagerrating or experiencing once in a lifetime luckiness. I had skimmed TUSCL a couple times and some other sites, but never took them seriously and was a firm believer in what Chris Rock told me about Champagne rooms. By the time I had my first experience, I had been clubbing for a couple years and the best I've ever got was moderate/high mileage and was content with that. When the cover went on and it slipped in the first time in a VIP booth, I thought it was a miracle. When it happened again my very next trip, I saw the light, became a true believer (and TUSCL lurker).

Yeah, her job is to tease, to create a fantasy where you want to touch her without that actually being the case. Her showing you her pussy never means it's open game to have at it, and you should treat like any other woman where, expressed explicit consent is the name of the game. Usually I don't touch tits, ass or especially pussy unless I have specifically asked to do so and/or the dancer for certain says I can. I will admit I didn't ask the last time my fingers got wet in the VIP, but seeing as she started making out with me, kept putting her tits in my mouth, and also kept trying to reposition herself so to get my hands closer to her pussy, I correctly took that as consent to dive in. Next time, ask again if you don't a response, regardless of her answer, it won't be the first or last time someone has asked to do so, and she'll prefer it over just grabbing at her. Most importantly, respect her response.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this, and to say its sad and sobering is an understatement. Its the shit like this that sometimes makes me what to become a white knight, not for my own selfish reasons, but from a sincere place to protect some of these girls from themselves and their surrounding and enablers. A lot of them are absolutely great, smart people who hit a rough patch somewhere down the line that they couldn't easily recover from but they deserved so much better. I'm sorry to hear this. Condolescences to you and especially her family.

I know the OP gets to choose on his thread, but I'd venture to say that it's anything outside ultra/high mileage (so not just past grinding, but also past groping, titty sucking, fingering, LDK, over the pants handy) that is usually (but not always) pre-paid for and often involves a pop.

I'm honestly curious what the remaining 5% is made up of...

Really dumb move, then again, I never really thought most SC management was particulary smart. But to completely throw away any possible culpable deniability by overtly providing condoms and lube to customers and dancers is beyond short-sighted. Anyways, because of added risk of raids, the essential assumed pressuring of any dancers into performing extras even if they don't to, and the minor idea that it kills any fantasy/delusion that a VIP session is any other than a business transaction, I'd run far away from that club and its incompentent management.

UGK - did you just say genitals? This isn't a doctors office or a court of law, loosen up a bit. My first was probably my 2nd or 3rd SC visit once I moved back to the Detroit area. I still thought extras were a myth. I took a girl down to a VIP room and the bouncer wasn't there so we were just waiting. All of the sudden the dancer pulled me up against a wall and started DFK. The bouncer came back and she immediately stopped, but as soon as we got into the VIP, there was no dancing and she went right back to DFK. As soon as the first song ended, unprompted, she said " I can do just dances, or 150 for a blowjob, 250 if you want to fuck. I guarantee you my pussy is tighter than your wife's" and then she proceeded to take my hand, shoved it in her panties, and proved that sure enough her pussy was indeed tighter than my wife's. I helped myself to the full menu and have clubbed solely for the extras ever since.

That means nothing if the dancer and club is going to recoup the low price on dances by sanctioning gratuitous overcounting. Would you run home and rave on social media about the great value of any other business if they were ripping you off and charging you for items you didn't buy? A lower price shouldn't blind you so much that you reward a place in spite of them openly screwing you over. That's not value, that's bullshit.

I used to live in Phoenix, which is where I started clubbing 11 years ago, but I was woefully ignorant and bad at it. Now that I've been in the Detroit area for awhile and, found my swag and know what I'm doing extras-wise, I'd love to go back up to the Valley of the Sun and redeem myself for all my SC failures there.

Last week, I was getting incredibly turned on by a chubby blonde, little bit of a stomach, but absolutely drop dead gorgeous face, perfect big round tits, and a killer smile she would shyly flash whenever she got a tip. I can't explain it but even though she never looked my way or talked to me, I was on the verge of just throwing my wallet on stage for her. I didn't though, because I was already hitting it off with a dancer who was exactly my type and quite different than the dancer on stage: young, tall, slim, long haired brunnette with small perky tits. Past that moment, sure a handful times, I've gotten dances from girls I'm not attracted to just because no options were available. It's been pretty much esclusively out of my desperation rather than pity, but when it comes to extras, I don't spend that kind of money unless they are indeed my type.

I married an incredible pair of 38DDs, so big tits is not I look for at a club. I gravitate towards smallish, perky Bs when I have a choice.

My wife has a lot of family in Youngstown, so I unfortunately have been plenty of times. A pistol whipping for let a dog loose sounds about right. Never once did I realize (nor care to realize) there are strip clubs in that area.

Founder doesn't really delete users, even the overt trolls, so that certainly is quite odd...or telling. It ain't my money on the line and their is plenty of experience on the board from my neck of the woods, so it's not bad for my business. And it's not really cruel to new people, as new people join and thrive all the damn time. If your story is legit, get some thick skin and understand its got some odd inconsistencies that smell like troll/bs. If it is a bs or even a slightly fabricated story story, then accept you got called out. I don't think you're a troll at all, I just don't think you know what you're doing just yet. Then again I am not at all anyone that's the slightest bit important or of note on the board, so my opinion isn't really gonna help you out here.

I don't think the OP ever told us in his last thread why he got booted and his review deleted the first time around...

Meh. I fucking love strip clubs and giving my money to the ass n' titties therein, but I wouln't want one in my neighborhood either. Hypocritically, I might even be one of those citizens putting up a bit of a fight.

To follow up on 4gots comment on LDKs, don't just go ahead and do that. While some live for it, it's frowned upon by many strippers since your essentially going to cum on them without their permission. I don't do that, but if I did, I'd take my cue from the dancer before proceeding and make it clear that was my end game. As for his comment about criticisms, this is a forum for PLs. We're going to bust your balls and give you an education in the meantime. Don't take it personally but learn from it. All of us have been burned in a club one time or another, and lord knows I spent way too much money in clubs for nothing to show for it until I really learned how it worked. Since your here, I imagine you do want to learn about the fun to be had at SCs for your money's worth rather than just make a simple trip or two.

Absolutely its a hobby, why else in their world would their be a site dedicated to PLs who do nothing but talk about it? Welcome to the world of clubbing and congratulations/condolesences on your recent divorce. I hope you are going to clubs to have fun rather than fill a (metaphorical) hole. Try not to spend that much money and know if you go back to that club, you're probably now a mark by any girl who saw you spend so much money with nothing really to show for it. At absolute worst, a grand spent in the club should get you laid at least 2/3 times.

Then you're completely fine and being waaaaaaaay too paranoid. And you also spent way too much for your dick to stay in your pants, you're doing this strip club thing all wrong.

Getting really drunk at a strip club, not really sure how much you spent, and now you are paranoid about a rash on your dick. Are you brand new to clubbing? Not that its a bad thing, but it sounds like it. Anyways, the hell if we know without more info (did your dick even go anywhere) and we aure as shit don't want to see a pic of it. The only std that could cause a rash that quick is scabies, so did she have lice jumping around her bush? The more likely cause of any rash you'd pick up at a club is from being irritated by something you put down there or she put down there to freshen things up (soap, perfume, etc...). Lighten up, relax, and get tested if you need to. You'll be fine. Or if you're going to be paranoid about every little thing off about your dick after being serviced by a stripper, consider finding a new hobby.

Pence is from Indiana, not Ohio. Still, as someone from a neighboring state of both, both states suck and your point stands.

Make that three in a row. Opened this up to mention exactly what JS said: its not the tanlines themselves, but that they represent what someone else didn't get to see.

@warhawks - damn straight! I'm a disgusting, perverted and inpulsive human being, but if I'm gonna do a lot of dfk and some daty with a dancer, I'm sure as shit gonna get there first thing in the afternoon shift to make sure I'm getting first fresh pick of day. If nothing else, its psychologically helpful.

^^^ Before I truly became aware of the world of extras, I tried my hand in escorts. The amount of research needed to find good ones, plus the risks of complete bombs, shady characters and LE just made it not worth it. I don't think I'll ever go back to that when I can pay a little bit more for much higher quality girls with less risk/research...and they audition for me as well.