Comments by a21985 (page 19)

@deuce - I never admitted I was particularly coherent and it usually takes one to know one...or perhaps it's my simply comprehension shortcomings that was the issue. I 100% understand what he's asking, especially after the 2nd read through, but the lack of pronouns and the incomplete sentences through me for a loop more than it should've. It's been a long day, I guess, moving on...

I get what you're asking, but it's terribly its terribly coherent and hard to follow. Anyways, as an extras guy myself, it's metro-Detroit above all else. When you pay for dances in the VIP, you are more likely to get bj or FS than your are to get an actual dance...100% serious.

1. Lack of ass 2. Bolt ons 3. Nipple piercings (I wanna suck dem titties, not get metal in my mouth) 4. Scars (c-section, cutting, etc...) and sores 5. Too much pudge Honorable mention: pubic hair and short hair. I'll deal with it, but I heavily prefer a very nice, clean trim or clean shaven. Also, short hair just ain't my thing. Unlike a lot of you gents, if the right mood strikes, I actually can find myself very attracted to girls with a lot of tattoos and some facial piercings (ala suicide dolls style).

Yeah, she doesn't sound like she was ever a ROB, just dancer who had limits that didn't fit the mold of what you look for in a stripper. Girls change what they're comfortable with doing, for better or for worse, temporarily or more long term. Her change in style just happened to benefit you this time around.

To append JS69 half joking comment: "What's important is that I'm first customer she fucks that day." I'm sure you all are great people, but I'd much you get my sloppy seconds then the other way around...and that is why I'm an early afternoon shift PL.

With my old ATF, I had a conversation early on in the (business) relationship about including me in the cattle call texts. We had a GFE thing going on, even when we talked outside of the club, and I felt that including me in that bullshit took away from that, especially considering all the money I was spending on her and how well I was treating her. From there on, if business was slow and she wanted to try to get me to come in when I hadn't preplanned it, I'd get some conversation beforehand and then a customized message...always accompanied by a different pic to help me consider it. When we started to break it off with each other, she went back to me being just another part of the cattle call, and I knew that was pretty much it for us. It's not an approach for many PLs and dancers, but if you have a good enough relationship with her, a frank conversation about expectations could work.

I seem to remember Deja Vu in Ypsi having featured dancers fairly often back in the day. Have no idea if they still do because I haven't gone there in years and avoided features when I did.

Lexi Belle? Hot damn, used to love her stuff, with how her personality was on screen, I can see her own the stage at a club.

Speaking of dancers who participate in these customer focused SC forums, whatever happened to Nina? She was quote vocal on here and another more regional site too... But to you're point, I have not come across that, sounds like it could get awkward...or you can use it to your benefit (half price bj for a good review?). I got the vibe that strippers who get involved in SC forums are more of the kind that would go on SW and not really do the things I look for in a dancer...

If you've had "plenty of success" with extras in clubs but are still afraid of offending a stripper by asking her outright, then not only have you been incredibly lucky, but you probably could stand to learn how to ask tactfully. These women are groped at, oogled, have heard it at all and in some cases have sex for a living. They have much bigger metaphorical balls and thicker skin than you give them credit for.

Somewhere, there's a stripper you texted wondering why you keep texting her and hoping a slow response will help you take a hint....especially if your texts are all buddy buddy rather than more "business" focused. But in all seriousness, outside of my former ATF who would text just to chat, if I text a stripper, it's "are you going to be in today" or "when's your next shift." If she doesn't respond in a time I see fit to make my decision, it's her loss. They're working women with real (often strange) lives outside of the club, and sometimes plenty of other regulars they communicate with. To top it off, they're naturally flakes. I won't hold it against them if they are slow to respond, I'll just move on with my plans.

When you're at a strip club looking for extras, you need to be an alpha male. This means if you're usually timid about these things but looking for a nut, you need neee to flex your personality from beta to alpha. There aren't secret codes, and these girls are used to being asked these questions and have no problem telling you their strict limits (or lack thereof). Just ask, and you can always do so discretely if it makes you more comfortable (ex: "what's on your menu"). If you look for signs forever rather than being upfront with what you are looking, you're gonna keep wasting money on dances from girls who aren't providing what you want, or getting had by dancers who see you're a beta and milk your wallet without putting out.

I've used my P-card on multiple $1K+ bill bar/dance club tabs before. But I don't ever want to come close to testing my company's opinion on expensing a strip club visit on a work trip.

@shadowcat - if they no show, don't they lose their ability to change flights with just a change fee....meaning the airline got their money regardless of whether they were there or not? Seems like there are already safeguards to make sure no shows don't matter.

@dougster: Relatability is a heavy contributor. So many of us have had a brush with overbooked flights at one point or another, directly or indirectly. Not only is it obnoxious, but its a symbol of corporate greed, which so many of us are wired to show public disdain over. To see it taken to this extent and to be able to say that it could be me next time strikes a much stronger nerve than some things that have a more legitimate, profound and broad impact. In other words #firstworldproblems.

My former ATF was an awesome girl, loved talking and hanging out with her in and out of the club and the sex was amazing. But...I'll leave the splurging on material gifts for my wife. The best physical gift I ever got my ATF was when I ran out to buy her a few packs of Djarum Blacks when for a couple weeks she became obsessed with them for some reason. I often thought about it, but I gotta be honest, it felt like the ultimate PL bullshit to buy a dancer stuff. Hell, she had one regular more loaded than me who bought her designer handbags, etc.... She was kinda appreciative, but at the same time made fun of the guy for it behind his back. One time while i was hanging out of her at the club, he brought by a gift, she accepted, shooed him off and continued to hang out with me. If you're into giving your ATF gifts, great, but it ain't for me. Regardless of how close the relationship is with a dancer, I'll keep giving her the greatest gift I know for them: cold hard cash for services rendered.

If any of us were advisors to any president, you can sure as hell bet strip club expenses being deductible on 1040s would soon be on their way...

What the hell would you think would happen in a world where something spreads like wildfire as soon as it happens? It's as if they have zero understanding that while often simply annoying and full of empty threats, sometimes social media justice can be very damaging to a company's reputation. I've got to imagine they're in for a rude awakening. I've got a couple personal trips coming up that I won't be considering United (it helps that they're often not the cheapest). I also have a work trip in a few months and will specifically being requesting not to be booked on United by our corporate travel agency.

A couple stories that don't quite fit the topic, but are close enough: One of my reps at an old job in Phoenix was a former stripper...but a few months into the job, began stripping again I believe at Christies Cabaret in Tempe. She was very open about it. One of my coworkers went and saw her dance. I however am discrete about my hobby and didn't partake. 2nd story - At another job, rumor had it the girl who sat a few cubes over from me used to be in porn. She however was out of the game and didn't want anyone to know. I never brought up with her directly out of respect for that. However, though she wasn't particularly hot to me, a porn star is a porn star, and I had to see her stuff. I eventually found out her porn name and furiously jerked off to nothing but her videos for like a week straight. This was like 7 years ago, so I've long since forgotten her name (real and stage), but she was in what I remember is a fairly well known scene (she was a small and skinny redhead with shorter hair, and the scene was a really rough blowjob, possibly more, where she starts crying and legit gets really pissed off). Might go search for it now....

Meh, there are plenty of morons here too, as is evidenced on plenty of threads. There are a lot of arguments that the bulk of us are probably egotistical, exploiters, sexist, no impulse control, etc, etc...So we certainly have our flaws. But to your point, to have money to spend on such an expensive hobby, and to be able to charm a stripper into things that the average guy at a SC couldn't, you'd certainly have to some advantegeous combination of intelligence, awareness, humor and charisma. That and/or dumb luck.

In all seriousness, she's a heroin addict. Doesn't this suspiciously sound like she was turning a trick and the pimps got impatient, or the victim simply didn't have the agreed upon amount? I know it's potentially ignorant sexist victim shaming, but I have hard time believing this situation is simply a robbery where she raped him by forcing his hard cock in her mouth. There must be more to his involvement in this predicament where's a smidge less innocent as he seems...

Nice.