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9 years ago
The bondage aspect of Czechfantasy really turns me off, that and the assembly line method of sex. Forget sloppy seconds; you'd be damn lucky if you were getting sloppy tenths or twentieths. I've seen some sample videos on amateurlapdancer on pornhub. Not a whole lot to them, especially considering they're only a few minutes long (if I remember right).
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9 years ago
4got2wipe: "Truth be told I'm no where near as strip club/stripper obsessed as most of the posters on TUSCL!"
*GASP!* Heathen! Break out the torches and pitchforks!
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9 years ago
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BigPoppa99;)Florida-hooking up with Ms. EveHartley, since 2010!
SJG, you can't judge the world by California's laws alone, let alone by whatever laws apply to wherever it is you actually live. BYOB bars are probably a lot more common that you can imagine, and there's nothing illegal about them today (local ordinances providing, of course). In fact, "BYOB" has its own category here on TUSCL. Here's a listing for just one of them:
https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?ID=1415
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9 years ago
GMD, have to agree; That airheaded bimbo routine Somers did was worse than nails across a chalkboard.
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9 years ago
I never found Suzanne Somers very attractive, just too much ego to support any sex appeal. I'm surprised the list didn't include Judy Landers' sister, Audrey.
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9 years ago
The prison should let general population have him.
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9 years ago
Now if only more conflicts could be resolved with a simple contest like that.
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9 years ago
I did like that they said *consensual* sex work. Once that ball gets rolling, maybe the police will pay more attention to real crimes rather than wasting resources criminalizing consenting adults.
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9 years ago
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BigPoppa99;)Florida-hooking up with Ms. EveHartley, since 2010!
Okay, that earned a laugh. SJG, "BYOB" is "Bring Your Own Beer (or Booze)." BYOB bars don't have to worry about paying for alcohol or experienced bartenders, and I'm guessing that the licensing is probably cheaper, too.
DoctorPhil, at least he just gave us a Cliff Notes interpretation.
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9 years ago
Ivana Ball
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9 years ago
Diana Rigg and Elizabeth Montgomery both. I really liked Goldie Hawn in her Laugh-In days, too, but that wasn't listed in the video. Maybe it's listed for the '70s.
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9 years ago
Okay, that last paragraph was supposed to be the last paragraph of answer 2. Weird.
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9 years ago
I'm agreeing largely with GMD, too, though with the caveat that it's going to vary greatly from provider to provider, from region to region. One AMP I used to visit offered some really good, really solid massages, along with FS. The women I met ranged from probably 5-8. Have to say, one woman, probably a 7.5, caught me seriously off-guard during the pre-massage table shower when she started giving me a rimjob. Yeah, I wasn't ready for that and asked her to stop.
As for your questions:
1) I think AMP is pretty much the default in our country. We think of massages, we tend to think of Asian women largely due to media stereotyping. But, yeah, assortments of ladies can be found at assortments of MPs.
2) It's going to depend on a lot of things, much like with strip joints and strippers. Some actually are massage therapists and they won't offer you anything more (other than maybe a bottle of water). Some working in studios will tend to be more cautious, especially if you're brand new. They'll be using their LE radar on you to gauge the possibility. And they'll probably want to test you, often either by grazing your junk or (less likely) letting you cop a feel. If she comes out and asks you if you're a cop, chances are she's either brand new or incredibly lucky and naïve because cops can lie when it comes to this question. They're just not allowed to touch or be touch in the privates (though that might depend on the locale, too).
Therapists who operate out of their apartments and homes, I'd probably do some extra research on. Stings are just far too likely. Course, you have to watch out for some of the hotels, too, because the police can and will set up stings in them. If you do find yourself in a private setting (rather than a studio), try to do your own LE tests before towels start disappearing.
3) It's really about as safe as ITC in the VIP -- it's going to vary greatly, depending on the city, the politicians, the churches, and, very much, the political season. Now that we're heading into the 2016 elections, you can pretty much plan on even more raids on massage parlors, deserved or not.
4) Happy endings will depend on the provider and probably the surroundings, as well as how comfortable and how familiar the therapist is with you. HE can range from handjobs to FS, but they're also very much YMMV. One therapist I met was reputed to only give HJs and BJs, at least to first-time clients, but for some reason, she gave me FS -- and didn't ask for any extra money -- which was okay because not only did she give a poor massage (despite what others had said), she also sat on my head, which really didn't help the neck any.
5) Cost is going to vary greatly again. Massage therapists tend to start at $60/hour, body rubs at probably $150/hour. And typically, the subject of happy endings doesn't come up until late in the session, so you can negotiate then. Personally, I'd consider the market average for the area for one hour with an escort as the baseline to work from, factoring in the quality of the massage. I'd just ignore the little guy though; you know he's going to drain your wallet before the therapist will ; )
6) Like the others have said, do your research. I'm not a big fan of Rubmap.com (there seem to be more trolls looking for free membership on that than here on TUSCL), but I've had a lot of good luck with eroticmp.com. Eroticmp.com has forums much like these, and much like these forums, you really have to get a feel for who knows what he's talking about and who's just full of shit. Just to be safe (or safer), I'd double-check some of their info with what you might find on TER (but you have to be a paid member to access the information on massage girls there).
Sorry if this comes off as flip, but like with mongering, you really need to go out and experience some of these places first-hand in order to start to build up your radar for MP extras. What we write here and on other sites is a good start, but you really won't know until you walk through those doors.
And, yes, LE can find these places, too. Even though all reviews are supposed to be considered works of fiction, too many stories set in the same place can and will ping on LE's radar. It's why one of the most popular, most reliable FS AMPs in the Twin Cities got shut down -- too many morons bragging about what they did there. That's why the forums are important; you get a chance to virtually meet a lot of these enthusiasts and start back-channeling information.
Hope this helps. If you have any more specific questions, feel free to PM me.
On the other hand, I once visited a place that was reputed to offer extras and even gave off the extras vibe, but the attendant gave me a pretty pathetic massage. Nuts, I went in the for just a relaxing massage (and the possibility of more); instead, she did some Thai stretching techniques on me and, several years later, one of my hips still acts up. John, whatever you do, whatever you're looking for, do your best to make sure the "therapist" actually knows what she's doing and if she starts doing something that sets your alarms off, make sure she stops.
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9 years ago
Aren't strippers basically just a gimmick to get us in the door? I have a feeling that's probably how it started out anyway.
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9 years ago
"White," but my friends call me "geek." And if you have any problems with that, I'll tell Sven and Ole to break out their snowmobiles and pay you a visit, complete with lutefisk!
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9 years ago
Harry Dick
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9 years ago
Damn vandals destroyed another great work of art!
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9 years ago
It's sounding like unicorns do exist!
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9 years ago
But it's fun to feed the leeches, especially when they aren't feeding on you.
Another major variable: Dancer's attitude -- If she tells you she's hot -- over and over and over -- chances are she's going to insist on some crazy-ass price, even though she's no longer worth the cost of a burger that fell out of a drive-thru window.
Dancers that tell me they're a princess, I try not to laugh at. Dancers who tell me they're a goddess, I tell them I'm glad I'm an atheist.
I know -- not really helping -- but rates and OTC/ITC are really something that a PL has to find out for himself. We can tell you all sorts of stories, which may or may not be true, which may or may not be firsthand stories from us, but you're the only one who can experience any of his own stories. Good luck in your hunt.
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9 years ago
I might have to take my dad to a strip joint now.
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9 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
As long as it isn't North Dakota, South Dakota, or any small, rinky-dink town, I don't think it'd matter a whole lot to me.
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9 years ago
What is this "strip club" of which you speak?
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9 years ago
JS, crude? Me? Naaaawwww. And with the four of you, what would the sex afterwards be referred to as anyway? ; )
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9 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I have a few times. More often than not, I'd tip them a few bucks on stage, get a few dances tableside (this was back before lap dances became prevalent), and buy her a drink. Shortly after that, I'd call it a night.
One time, the club I used to hang out, held an auction of some sports memorabilia with the proceeds going to one of the dancers. Her brother had been killed in a boxing match earlier that week. Have to admit, I felt really bad not sticking around and hanging out with her more.