Midwest OTC

Hey dickhead, try the search function because we just went over this in another post a few days ago.

It varies from city to city like in Chicago it may set you back $600 but in pipestone Minnesota you may be able to pull it off for a carton of cigarettes, a 6-pack of diet Mountain Dew and 6 OxyContin pills.

I am not sure why you have to call me names just because I don't get a chance to read EVERY post on here or know what all has been posted. Just looking for some advice. If you have to be a jerk about it then don't comment.

There are no standards, asking going rates is like asking how much a used car is. I had a dancer quote me 200 for half an hour and I laughed at her. I had already done her friend who was as hot, sweeter, and had a better personality for half that price for a couple hours. Some guys overpay and some guys hook up with hot girls on the cheap for whatever reasons. YMMV, always!

Ok

I guess I am just looking for personal examples like that from OSU. Just tell me in real examples what you have paid and for how long or what was involved and what you would rate the girl in looks

$100 -- drinks, half and half in my hotel 1 hr. That was pretty recent. I've gone as high as $250 in the Midwest, but I don't go to Chicago for OTC.

Coolguy I gave you a straight answer.
Now I have a question. I just checked and you've started 10 or 11 discussions but have not reviewed any clubs, why is that?
If you want straight answers from most of these guys get some cred and do some honest reviews first.

In Chicago you can get an average girl for $200 for an hour, plus the room. An 8 or higher sets her own price...$500 will get you a hottie and GFE but may not be enough if there's a specific girl you want, as some can get 4 figures. This is the same as anywhere I assume. Outside of Harvey, the Chicago area clubs are not big on extras or OTC so girls who work these clubs aren't necessarily OTC types. But they ARE out there.

Leech

$100 in cold hard cash plus $50 in food stamps

The buckeye is right man....most guys on here are going to be reluctant to talk to you if you haven't reviewed any club's or you are brand new.

Midwest is just way too large a region to get any accurate idea on rates. Best bet would be to scour the Backpage ads for the area you're looking at, then go from there.

Yeah – the question was just to broad – OTC prices are often more on a per club basis rather than a whole damn region.

Sorry it was too broad. I guess what I said mid thread then is I was asking for examples of what u guys pay and what part of the country you pay that? Also then how much u pay for like a 7 or 8 then how much for 9+? I would like personal examples from you guys please so I have an idea. Thanks.

Our resident expert on setting up OTC's is Rick Dugan. You need to read his System. It makes a lot of sense. He says that for your specific area you should read CL and BP and find out the going rates. A lot of it I think depends on how you talk to the girl. Are you treating her like a prostitute, or are you treating her with respect?

SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…

There are too many variables to say the price is $X.

Some variables:

+ kind of club – upscale; dive, or sorta midtier – in upscale clubs it may probably take more $$$ to get a dancer out of the club – perhaps at least $300 to $500 since they can already make good $$$ from good custies in the club

+ dancer's looks – if she's hot and she *knows* she's hot; she may be used to getting paid well either ITC or OTC

+ dance price – if dances in the club are cheap (e.g $10); then the OTC may be cheaper since it would take selling lots of dances for her to equal an OTC payment – e.g. if dances are $30 and one offers a dancer $150 OTC: that is just the equivalent of having to sell 5 dances and it may not be worth it to her


There are too many variables and you have given very little info – I would guesstimate a fair price in the Midwest may be b/w $150 and $300 depending on the girl (her looks etc) and type of club she works at (i.e. the kind of $$$ she can make ITC). If you observe that she may not be making big $$$ in the club; start w/ $150 and see if it's wroth it to her – but if you observe her apparently making good $$$ (selling lots of dances or VIPs); then it will probably take more.

Please don't feed the leeches.

But it's fun to feed the leeches, especially when they aren't feeding on you.

Another major variable: Dancer's attitude -- If she tells you she's hot -- over and over and over -- chances are she's going to insist on some crazy-ass price, even though she's no longer worth the cost of a burger that fell out of a drive-thru window.

Dancers that tell me they're a princess, I try not to laugh at. Dancers who tell me they're a goddess, I tell them I'm glad I'm an atheist.

I know -- not really helping -- but rates and OTC/ITC are really something that a PL has to find out for himself. We can tell you all sorts of stories, which may or may not be true, which may or may not be firsthand stories from us, but you're the only one who can experience any of his own stories. Good luck in your hunt.

@SJG: Too funny. What I have said is to take the average prices on BP and Eros, then get the average of those, and you should have a reasonable measuring stick. Truth be told, this is still a surprisingly good approximation. Top shelf talent may push closer to, or even hit, the Eros prices in some areas, but we pay more for quality anywhere.

Now I need to ex out NYC, Boston, Chicago and perhaps a couple of higher priced urban areas from this equation. When there is a fuck ton of money chasing a limited supply of hot strippers, the supply/demand curve will naturally be skewed, which is the case in these areas. In areas like these, escorts can be considerably cheaper than trying to take strippers OTC.

^^^ The Expert!

SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/

I don't claim to be an expert on anything. Each seasoned hound on here is a much more reliable source for his own particular area than I will ever be. I also undoubtedly pay a "tourist tax" in some areas as I could likely score OTC easier and cheaper if I was a local regular. What I pay now in my own home base feels like a steal compared to what I would have likely paid if I was just passing through.

^you gave us the system. makes you the expert.

In STL area, 150 worked with a solid 7. Second visit, I negotiated for "quickie" for 100.

Rick Dugan, you are the expert. Lots of guys walk into strip clubs, with no system, and they get their wallets sucked dry by pretty girls. What do they get, 'extras' and 'mileage'. They get nothing, because they let girls sell them dances. They are doing it on the girl's terms.

It is a joke!

You've showed that you have to find your own way. While yours is not the only way, you are the first one to come straight out and show the key element, that you have to politely deflect the dance offers. You have to politely decline, while counter offering.

The idea is not that complicated, but just by reading this forum I can see that most guys don't understand it.

SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/

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