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17 years ago
MiDancer,
just wanted to make sure you understand that I say the above as a compliment and as a sign of my admiration of your educational accomplishments and commitment to learn and grow.
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17 years ago
MIDancer,
as always, I am going to speak my mind here. I am sure you are an awesome dancer, but you need to get the hell out of the biz ASAP. Too bad I would never be able to buy LD from you :(
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17 years ago
Shadowcat,
have you met the fellow TUSCLer who wrote you the email? It sounds like that the part of your jealousy comes from you not approving the dancer's choice of who she should be giving the FS. I do not know what Bones told you, but imo, if she is not so choosy, it could be to your benefit, unless the guy she gave FS had other "competitive advantages" besides money, which put you outside of her circle of candidates for FS.
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17 years ago
Fondl, much like you I have high standard when it comes to physical attributes of the dancer. After the incredible experience that I recently had (just 4-6 months ago), I do not think I can find a dancer like my first ATF (she quit dancing too). I feel your disappointment: 6 years is a long time. But do not get discourage. Keep positive, that's the key! You may find her, or she may find you your very next trip to the club. Life is full of surprises.
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17 years ago
No.5: honey, when you say that a sure shot to the man's heart is though his stomach, you are aiming too high...
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17 years ago
As much as we try to commoditize dancers, the nature of business is still highly subjective, especially for well rounded customers that have certain standards. Fondl, it may be the case that your values have changed a bit during the time you took off from clubbing, or may be the simple case of being "at the right place, at the right time". If anything, the economy should increase the supply of the dancers (both new and those that came back dancing) while pushing the prices down. Dancers' pay still relatively high compared to other careers the girls can pursue give the background of many. I think now is the time to get the best deals out there, just like with Real Estate. The economic laws are almost as reliable as the law of gravity, LOL! Fondl, hope you find your next ATF soon.
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17 years ago
There are just too many variables to suggest that one approach is better than the other. Not only dancers' personalities and looks are different, but the personalities and preferences of the customers are different too. Additionally, different club attract different clientele and some dancers are just ill suited for a particular club. Common sense and willingness to go extra mile when needed is a good starting point, imo.
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17 years ago
Doug, I wish we can meet some day to compare notes...
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17 years ago
Jab, I go to SC for several reasons. First reason is to harvest sexual energy which I bring back home. That happens 95% of the time. Falling in love of experiencing romantic feeling toward a dancer, if channeled properly, produces unexpectedly good results in other areas of my life (professional, personal, creative endeavors, etc). I recognize that the second reason is a dangerous route given my personality, but you know what they say in Wall Street Journal: higher risks, higher returns. And I do not really care what kind of cutomer I am, I have my own agenda.
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17 years ago
Thanks, Dr. Phil for suggesting that I am an "incompetent customer" or "when it comes to relationships they [me} seem beyond dumb". I do respect the fact that you are about 30 years older than I am and I will not take your wisdoms apart. I'll just say: "May you never run out of turkey!" :) Seriously, Jab, lighten up and learn to respect and tolerate others' points of view and not try to win EVERY argument, its impossible.
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17 years ago
Jablake,
sounds like a story of both of my ATF. One that I fell in love with found another job and stopped dancing, and the second one I left myself because I felt we were starting to connect on too many levels. The difference between our stories is that in both cases I stopped buying dances from them, it just felt wrong.
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17 years ago
I agree with Jablake. When my friends and I take our wives to SC they form a group of 4 to 5 hot ladies that are 28-35 yo. They get close to the stage and the dancers love them and they usually do an impromptu show together. Us, the husbands get complements from the DJ and the crowd. If we get drunk enough, we do order LD for our wives, and some really get into it :) Sorry, could not resist to brag - its been a long day at work...
I suggest to keep on trying different clubs. I have seen couples like yours getting the deserved attention here, in Detroit.
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17 years ago
MIDancer,
interesting approach, learned something new today. You being different from the what we perceive to be a generalized image of a dancer wins our admiration. Though some may still think your replies are just some twisted SS, just kidding :)
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17 years ago
MIDancer,
I get your point that most of the guys are idiots to start with and would not know the truth from a lie. I can even see that at some point it would discourage a dancer from telling the truth because it may hurt the business. But how does your policy of telling the truth works if you need to create a sexual fantasy and the guy, for instance, a bold, overweight shrimp with bad breath etc, so it is almost impossible to find anything attractive about him? I remember your average is 20-25 LD per shift plus 1/2 - 1 hour in VIP so your policy works, but how is it applied?
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17 years ago
Book Guy,
it is quite possible that the dancer you describe comes from the similar background as her boyfriend. Oftentimes, the dancers come from low-middle-class dysfunctional family where their fathers left their mothers and oftentimes, there is a history of sexual abuse my a family member (father, uncle etc).
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17 years ago
MIDancer,
you are an exceptions that only proves the rule. My proposal of "10 Customer Truths" is a mere summary of the most common things that us, the customers, find annoying in dealing with dancers. This is an attempt to honestly come out and say: we want this and do not want that. What dancers will do with that truth is entirely up to them. I suspect that nothing would change, but it feels good to try...
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17 years ago
MIDancer,
you know what one good looking and an experience dancer answered me once to "How is it going tonight?" "Oh, don't worry about me, I always make out like a bandit" and she laughed. What a fresh approach! That really differentiated her from the rest of the dancers. And we as customers do look for something different in our dancers and the answers to the routine questions could by one of those things.
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17 years ago
SCs to tend to attract some bad characters. Since these bad MFs cannot get a date OTC, they come in for a fantasy one. I do not go to SC during the night 95% of the time because of what you have just described and because the best dancers in my area that work in smaller clubs (I like them better) do not work night shifts for that same reason.
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17 years ago
Just do not think that you never going to see her again, think the opposite. In fact imagine that you have already met her once and you are about to meet her again. As unlikely as your meeting may sound, just keep her "alive" in your thoughts. "Make" her your neighbor, or someone that you have more odds of running into. Believe in it as you do with other things you hold dear. I am sure with time and your positive thinking something like what happen to me will happen to you. It just has to, its the law that has worked for centuries...Hang in there, Jab!
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17 years ago
Jablake, have you tried searching for her videos on YouTube?
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17 years ago
Will be doing mine this morning. Thanks for the reminder.
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17 years ago
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17 years ago
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David, I think we need to do our own "10 Customer Truths" and make it a permanent part of this site, placing it right above Stripping 101.
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17 years ago
Different folks like different strokes (pun was intended :) Looks are important for me, sorry to disappoint some.
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17 years ago
David, haha, I am with you there!
I am very discriminative when it comes to who I will buy dances from.
They really have to sell me on... I do not even know what it is half the time... things just have to click and the looks is just the first step in the selection process.