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16 years ago
Well for me it begins with the appropriate dress attire – pants I would never ware in public, but in a darkened club they work quite well. They are made of a super thin polyester or nylon that feels like I’m not wearing a thing when she sits on my lap. The fly is open, but with a flap on the inside the hides my dick, but has extremely easy access for my dear friends hands.
Saturday afternoon I had a dancer sit on me and gave me a super hard on. She said my part belonged to the wrong ethnic group because of its size and thickness (they say that to everyone I know). Well, anyway she proceeded to rub it on her pussy until she at least acted like she had a great orgasm. Being in public at the stage and having that kind of experience is so much more fun than in a private VIP room. I tipped her $20.
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16 years ago
Nothing that drastic. Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode when the light hits a woman’s face she suddenly looks pretty damn bad. I met a dancer OTC and the sunlight made her look not nearly as good as she did in the darkened club.
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16 years ago
What is your outlook on dancers all together?
They all have significant personal issues or they wouldn’t be there. Everyone I talk to has a sad story to tell and how they don’t have any money.
What is your tipping style? Examples - Strict $1, what do you expect when you give a dancer a tip, etc..?
I normally tip $3 but that is for a good portion of one song and some lap dancing. Yesterday I tipped a girl $20 for a very high mileage lap dance at the stage and just one song. If she simply dances in front of me and does not show the kitty its just $1.
What do you expect out of a lapdance and VIP rooms?
Don’t go there anymore unless I know I’m having sex. Too boring otherwise.
Do you pay for talking time and/or do you offer to buy drinks or will you buy the dancer a drink if she asks? Or do you refuse under all circumstances to buy a dancer a drink?
I buy drinks or only girls I already know because it helps them at the bar. It’s money I would normally give them anyway, but it’s going to the bar instead of them personally.
Are you the type of customer that likes to approach dancers your self or vice-versa? If you only like certain dancers and one you don't like approaches you, how do you react to her?
I never approach a dancer. I only want dancers that pretend a great interest in me. The fantasy has to start in the right direction from the beginning
What kind of club attracts you and do you ask dancers for extras? If you ask for extras, what is usually the percentage that agree to extras?
I don’t go to clubs just to watch good looking women dance. There has to be the prospect for very high mileage that I’m aware of personally or based upon good advice. I rarely ask dancers for extras. If I’ve seen a girl a number of times I might. Most extras have come at their request.
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16 years ago
I like to have several types working for me. It depends on the mood I’m in, but I do have several different types of favorites. All of mine can hold a descent conversation, nice looking, but not modelesk, and pretends I’m the greatest guy to walk in – they always drop who ever their with to see me. One is very dominate and we do a lot of fun things that catch attention of others in the bar. Our sex is usually OTC. At another club I have a very sensual girl who kisses great and we do a lot more making out and having sex at the club, but with plenty of conversation going on. Finally I have a club where the girls are very average looking, but always deliver daty, extras, and high mileage and its always a different girl. You can’t have more than one favorite at any one club
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16 years ago
That's it. Thanks
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16 years ago
I got fleeced by a dancer in New Jersey in which she took my wallet. I realized my wallet was missing within 30 seconds from leaving the private area. I immediately went back and she was gone and my wallet was on the ground with $300 gone. Truly pissed.
In St. Louis I’ve dropped my wallet and returned hours later to pick it up with all the money still there. I drop money on the floor all the time and they are always quick to tell me that I dropped my money.
Stealing strippers will always piss me off because there will most likely be a way for them to earn it from me the right way. When money is tight for some of these girls I advance them money for future services they will give me (kind of like a gift card).
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16 years ago
I'm new to the discsussion board and not sure of the terminology.
What does ATF and GFE mean?
I assume ITC is in the club and OTC is outside the club.
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16 years ago
Reminds me of when I was in London and their so called strip clubs. I sat down with a girl and we had a drink. She gave a vague description of what services cost and after hearing of the rip off prices I told I would pass. She then informed me I owed her $120 for our sit down chat. I told her to fuck off at which to she motioned to her two hit men and they came over and told me that in the best interest of my health that I better fork over the money. I did and left. Had the same type of experience in Paris.
Contrast that with my experience yesterday. Yesterday I went to one of my favorite clubs and met up with one of my favorites. We made out for 30 minutes at the bar. We then went to the stage for 15 minutes and had plenty of skin to skin contact. Then we went and had sex in the private (15 minutes) and it cost me $120 and I was there for over an hour. What is that 15 songs worth of time, but we never count songs. Since I’ve seen her before money was never discussed. If I would have given her $80 or $90 she would have been just as pleasant and thankful as she was with the $120.
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16 years ago
A couple of things – how do you define high mileage and what do you have to pay for it. You can always get anything you want if money is no object. If we're talking high mileage at the stage then to me it means hands anywhere and everywhere as well as brief orals for either one as well as hand jobs and paying $20 tops for 10-15 minutes. In the private area high mileage means having sex and paying say no more than $120.
If you define high mileage in these terms then I think St. Louis (specifically E St. Louis – Illinois side) would definitely be in the top 5. I’ve lived in Dallas, Atlanta, and California, and traveled 100% for 15 years visiting numerous clubs all over the country and never found a better value proposition than the one I described above than in St. Louis.
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16 years ago
Dudester - I went and looked at some of your posts and it looks you can get it in Houston. I made a comment a couple days ago that Houston was pretty lame. Well my experience was 8 years ago and I obviously didn't know what the fuck I was talking about when it comes to todays action. Like any place I guess you need to know where to go. Thanks for writing those informative posts.
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16 years ago
My favorite girl has a Bettie Page look (not the bangs) and sees Bettie Page as one of her idols. I bought her a Bettie Page poster (Bettie Page Queen of Hearts) and had Bettie Page's name removed and inserted Ms. Holly instead. She loved it and its hanging in her room. A toast to Bettie - Thanks for the memories.
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16 years ago
How about a dominate stripper. A year ago the first time I met my favorite she had taken down another stripper on stage and started eating her. She then came over to me sat on my lap and pulled out my dick and declared “ok this mine now. Do you UNDERSTAND THAT? I don’t think you understand that do you?†I said well I’m not sure I do. She then said “you’re coming with me (as she took me and walked me back to a private room) and you don’t even have to pay if you don’t want toâ€. She then forced me to eat her pussy giving me strict commands exactly how she wanted it done. She actually came all over my face and I’ve never smelt or tasted anything so sweet. It was a shocking experience. I am now addicted to that. We then had unprotected sex, but I did not cum inside her. I like dominance over shy or sultry.
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16 years ago
Even in my freakiness I don’t think I could do a sixteen year old – I can’t do kids. A month ago I would have said 40 is good with me. My favorite freaky girl is 41 and I’ve never had such a good time. She’s freaked out because she is afraid of her advancing age, but she will do it all. She still has a nice body, but does it have a few issues – well yes, but I’ve never felt so alive as I do when I’m with her.
A couple of weeks ago while my freaky favorite was unavailable I went to another club just to pass some time. Well this 22 year old grabs my hand and takes me away. I had an absolutely fantastic time and she knows how to bring it. I was totally shocked, it was if my 41 year old favorite had been transformed back into this 22 year old body. So a month ago I would have said no one under 35 but now it’s no one under 22. What could be next? A 16 year old – please don’t let it happen.
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16 years ago
Good question Shadow. As I ponder it I guess it saddens me some because I wish I were a newbie again. Back in the mid 90’s I remember how exciting Mitchell Bros. was for me in San Fran and how during the couch dances when she would accidentally (on purpose) touch her pussy to my face and slide down on me (no bumping and grinding or maybe just a little) that I would climax. I would have rated it a 10 every time. Today that kind of experience gets a 6 or 7 and doesn’t get close to a climax experience.
Then I was destroyed in the mid 90’s. I would frequently go to St. Louis on business and happened upon a place called the Red Garter. It was located in a very dangerous part of E. St. Louis. This club, as seedy as it looked from the outside had some fantastic looking women (and dogs also). It was officially labeled a bikini bar, but it was far from any bikini experience. But once you got in the women would move the bikini aside and insist you eat until you cum or in some cases while you were eating away another would come in and do a BJ on you. I never spent more than $25 to $30 for an hour of (very dangerous) pure delight. That club burnt down in 97 and I’ve never been to another club like it.
As I looked back on how I’ve rated the clubs since 05 that nothing gets above an 8 unless I have intercourse. Once you go to the dark side you can’t go back. I wish I could go back in time and give 10s to all those clubs that just had beautiful dancers and a mere touch would set me off. As I look at some of the 9 and 10 ratings and the description I think, how innocent and boring, but I’m envious.
As far as who to believe. I believe them all unless proven otherwise.
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16 years ago
Exactly - and that is why the gorilla is a costume with guy in it that has a big donger.
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16 years ago
Shadow - no need to apologize because it did sound over the top. I am freaky though - at least that's what the girls I love the most call me. I'm addicted to freakiness. I read about the gorilla thing before I went down there and felt compelled to make a special trip just to have that experience.
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16 years ago
Zoro - my comments may have been a little over the top on Houston. My visits were 8 and 9 years ago and I only visited 3 or 4 clubs. Can't even remember which ones. Just remember feeling bored.
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16 years ago
Believe me I’m not trying to invent stuff, life’s to short for that kind of shit. I have no interest in trying to impress anyone. Now this Boystown thing happened back in 96 or 97. The reason I even knew about this place was from info I got from this site back long ago. I just checked ( I wasn’t expecting to see info that old) the Boystown threads under Nuevo Laredo, but they all appear to have been wiped clean and nothing older than 6 months. Anyway don’t know if they still do the gorilla thing because it has been 11 to 12 years ago.
As far as getting hard on stage it probably wouldn’t happen for me either today. I used to get off with a girl simply sitting on my jeans and moving sideways twice – today rarely will a hand job even do it. Things change as we get older. I was looking at some of my old threads from 05 and what got me off then will not work today. Public sex and exibition have always been my thing.
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16 years ago
It depends on what you’re looking for. If hotter girls weighs higher on your priority than high mileage then the route you’re taking is probably a descent one because I do know Atlanta and Dallas have very hot women and I have never been to Columbia. I have been to most of the major cities of the US and Europe and have been to most of the well known clubs. I’ve lived in Atlanta, Dallas and several cities in California. I have chosen to live in St. Louis because of the clubs. As far as high mileage I have not been to place that compares to East St. Louis in terms of what you get for dollars spent. The laws and how well they are enforced vary so much from state to state. Southern Illinois has very relaxed laws. I have yet to find a club on the east coast or west coast the offers the high mileage you get in East St. Louis (Illinois) for amount spent as a general rule. There are always exceptions. If you want specific details on the clubs here send me a message. If you’re committed to Columbia then you probably will want to catch East St. Louis on another trip. When I didn’t live here I always set my travel plans to take me through St. Louis.
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16 years ago
Shadow - what's your problem - I certainly wasn't trying to top anyone - simply pal it appears that Bother and I well it seems we just enjoy doing the same things.
As far as Mexico just do your homework. Look at Boys Town and you might learn something. Nothing personal pal but you simply are full of shit.
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16 years ago
Brother - sounds like you know how to fun as well. It's hard to find a place that is laid back enough to allow the impromtu stuff to go on. This same place I had one of the strippers slapping the shit out of me and making me eat her pussy(all in a fun dominating way). The customers were all going crazy and she got a lot of follow up action from guys wanting to eat.
How - This place was in Nuevo Laredo. Its a bar that has a gorella jumbing around and has sex with the dancer on stage. She grabbed me from the audience made me stick a banana up her and then she stripped me down to unison clapping and she quickly put a condom on me and we went at it. What a blast.
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16 years ago
Compared to other areas in the country Houston is very lame. I think there must be too much oversight, but visiting a Houston club is like getting a real PG rated experience. If I always lived in Houston and never experienced anything else I might be happy with Houston, but I've seen and experienced too much.
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16 years ago
At City Nights in E St. Louis on Thursdays there are a couple of us that do it in our sexy thong G-strings. The strippers come and give us our $1 back and we have a lot of laughs with it.
Once in Mexico the girl took off my shorts and we actually had sex on stage with all the customers clapping, yelling, and laughing. That was totally over the top.
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16 years ago
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Book GuyI write it like I mean it, but mostly they just want my money.
The redlight district kind of bored me a little, but what was good were the orgy party locations outside of the redlight district. Now that was a good deal (1997 - 2001) for $70 you got all the sex you wanted. It had it all. Most of it was just dancing with a girl then having sex and then rest and then go at it again with a different girl. If you didn't mind having sex while 10-15 others were having sex at the same time it was pretty cool.
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16 years ago
Stevesmith - not sure where I'm at with the commitment thing. I'm not sure if its possible and it sort of get back to the trust issue mentioned earlier. I think it is this issue at a subconcious level that is probably at the heart of my problem