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16 years ago
chi_sam, you demonstrate wisdom and wit. Thanks for your great posts!
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16 years ago
I value honesty and integrity above other virtues. It just lends a feeling of security and confidence in any dealing. Yes, Yank, you might enjoy rewarding your honest dancer if you see her again...
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16 years ago
Ultimately, it comes down to being "desirable" on some level. That does not translate to being handsome, but simply means that you have to present yourself in such a way that she will want to spend time with you.
In that regard, hygiene and good attitude are basic and essential. Seeming interesting and fun also obviously helps. Beyond that, it naturally depends on each lady: how important a factor is money, how important are your looks, how important are your clothes, etc. There is no set formula for those things, and luck is a huge factor in meeting the right woman.
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16 years ago
Could be the managers at the different clubs have different rules they enforce. I can give an example that suggests this:
Two clubs in El Paso, TX, separated by about a half-mile in distance, but very different in activity. I met a dancer at one of the clubs, and she was clear that she would do nothing beyond a fairly tame dance there. I saw this same dancer a couple of days later at the other club, and she offered FS+BBBJNQNS without me even suggesting we should consider extras. The only difference: the "rules" of the club managers.
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16 years ago
"1 - my place" -- Negative. See Dudester's observations above.
"2 - her place" -- Okay, but most dancers won't suggest this, and you shouldn't suggest it first.
"3 - neutral site" -- Best overall option. For actual dates that involve no pay-for-play, I prefer treating the lady to a nice dinner. No expectations for more, and whatever happens from there is gravy... For a paying gig, a motel's the place.
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16 years ago
Dudester, some of the clubs where those things I described happened are in Universal City, TX, San Antonio, TX, El Paso, TX... Basically, in Texas! Also, in Tampa, FL...
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16 years ago
Latinas
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16 years ago
Stage impressions are usually vague and inconclusive. Exceptions prove the rule, of course; I've had dancers give me BBBJ from on-stage, others invite me to put fingers in, others ask me to DATY while they're on-stage, and others simply tell me they want to do everything in a "lapdance." In such cases, the impression made from the stage performance is obvious...
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16 years ago
Interesting story, jablake. As far as I'm concerned, if it's about the money, then she's not irreplaceable. And if there's a more personal connection, I don't mind that guy giving her the cash; I'll see her later...
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16 years ago
Cannot be surprised that a dancer is motivated more by money than by affection...
Tough break, dude, but that's the harsh reality.
As for why the rich guy would pay more than necessary: I cannot relate to that, so I could only speculate it gives him some feeling of power.
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16 years ago
The explicit menu approach is less alluring than the demure you-might-convince-me-to-do-more-with-you-than-I-do-with-others approach. There needs to be some feeling of pursuit and achievement in the fantasy, right?
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16 years ago
Obviously, if you're able to simply pull 'em down to your ankles as Clubber reported, then the "easy access" considerations lose their import...
That's not typically allowed at most clubs.
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16 years ago
Sandy, you must be joking. If not, just be careful...
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16 years ago
In warm weather: Shorts like UnderArmour Loose Gear
In cold weather: Customized workout pants with easy access and no buttons, zippers or other bothersome items on them
Shirts should be long enough to pull down over the key area, in case a quick bit of discretion is required during certain activity.
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16 years ago
Pre-pay? Negative! I've been burned that way.
The bracelets as a minder for the dancer are fine, but obviously have no impact on her integrity. If she's honest about counting dances, but gets into it so much that she loses count, then whatever helps her remember is hunky-dory...
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16 years ago
If something truly urgent demanded a dancer's immediate attention, I'd hope she would excuse herself from what we were doing and attend to it. She could then either return to our activity, or not as appropriate. But she'd obviously forfeit payment for the interrupted dance...
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16 years ago
Dain noted, "Girls talk, of course..."
Understatement of the millennium thus far! Dancers gossip and talk about customers and other dancers relentlessly. Many do it for sport, while others seek some advantage over their co-workers (their attitude: "You must fail so I may succeed.")
I detest gossip, but you'd better be aware that things you say and do (and possibly some things you don't say and don't do) will be discussed behind your back in clubs.
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16 years ago
They have no concept of time... Or so it seems!
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16 years ago
Dudester, your muse is a model who is studying to be a nuclear physicist? Is her favorite movie that James Bond film featuring Denise Richards as "Dr. Christmas Jones," the nuclear physicist? I thought that was only a ridiculous fantasy...
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16 years ago
I've been impressed--almost freaked out--by the recall of some dancers. I guess not all of them get drunk or stoned to gear up for work...
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16 years ago
Usually it's going to take a dance to rate the quality of the dance; however, I recall a unique first-encounter: I was standing near the entrance to a club, and a very pretty bleach-blonde I'd never met walked up, grabbed my crotch, and asked, "Wanna fuck?" So in that instance, yes, I could tell what kind of a dance it would be with that unfamiliar stripper...
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16 years ago
That's a sweet story about Ivy. Her display of genuine appreciation must have made your day!
I once did something very simple to express appreciation for a dancer I had known for awhile: I copied a page out of a dictionary featuring an adjective I thought described her, highlighted it and gave it to her. Her reaction was far greater than the simple gesture merited...
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16 years ago
Those who exude the kind of attitude to which the OP referred (independent of ethnic or racial considerations) do tend to irritate me. I call it "hoochie" attitude, and have found it typically involves excessive head-bobbing (but not THAT kind of head-bobbing) as well -- also irritating! It is similar to the punks who want to pretend to be hardcore gangsters, as if that is their aspiration for achievement. I avoid people who demonstrate overly-negative attitudes, in general.
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16 years ago
Of course dancers pretend to be interested in us, even if they are not. However, I've had some relationships with dancers who were sincere. It's not something you can easily stereotype. You should assume she's pretending at first, but if you're open to the prospect, she may be genuine. Discernment is required, along with control over your willingness to spend money...
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16 years ago
One question that may innocuously lead to some of the info you are seeking is this: when she asks you if you want a dance, ask, "What do you have in mind?" That's a very open-ended question, and you can gauge her reaction typically. If the answer is a curt "Just a dance," contact is likely minimal. If the answer is more like, "I might be up for lots of things..." then you can catch that drift I think.