Comments by JeffTUSCL (page 3)

Feminists believe that women can do what they want but only to empty club with no men ogling, because, ew, that's objectification. Logic.

If she doesn't have access to your personal information, how would she blackmail you? You made both statements in the same post, seems far-fetched so you're either have extremely high paranoia or lack some comprehension about your situation. If I were you I would be more concerned about: - Your phone's GPS history - Going back to your wife smelling anything like this girl - her perfume, soap of choice, that sort of thing - Message and communication traces - Anything that might get on your clothes that would be hard to explain - The mileage on your car always being some specific amount greater than your commute back & forth to work and where you tell your wife you've been

Another issue is that in the discussions, the recent comment sorting is behind by about 24 hours. If that sorting is generated on a schedule, then the thing that generates the data is not running correctly. If it's done in real-time then there may be a time calculation bug.

What a scam, he could have kept it under the radar by using cash and just keeping bogus books of mostly out-of-pocket costs and occasionally using a chunk of the money on legit & traceable campaign expenditures. The fact that people simply handed money over for such shit confirms we live in a society full of morons and people who know how to get rich duping them. This guy got caught but I bet for every 1 of this guy there are 10 who didn't get caught.

Landlords and property managers want people who can reliably pay the rent. A credit check and some proof of job history and current employment are the 2 most accurate ways to verify that. A criminal background check also ensures the safety of other residents and another indicator of reliability. If strippers have an issue, nothing is stopping them from: Reporting all their income, and working up to have 2 solid years in tax filings to show income. If they don't have W-2s to show they can at least save their 1099. They can also stay away from drugs by choice and avoid criminal records. I don't have a violin small enough for this topic. If you're so concerned about them, pay their rent.

>>> "By the way, it is not the same as waitresses. People are expected to and the majority of customers do tip them. Alot a of strip club patrons don't tip the dancers and just sit there for a free thinking that because they paid a cover, they dont need to tip or are too cheap to tip a dollar." I don't think it matters if it's the same or not. One of the dancers I talked to I could tell she was so-so with the new situation, and was clueless and would probably eventually not be given any shifts as she would cost the club money. Imagine going to McDonald's with staff that just sat in a corner not doing any work. From many of these type of dancer's perspectives so long as they hit 2 or 3 decent VIP dances per week they made what they need and an go home and smoke pot and waste their life away. With the new status, clubs will not tolerate them not making their base to cover payroll and will no longer put these kind of girls on any shifts. The other girl I talked to was not this type of lazy, she goes in and does her shift to earn whatever she can and goes straight home. To her, even with some new limits in place, her earning would stay about the same but may get even better once the bottom dwellers get filtered out. One clear thing, though, is that even with employee status it is true that clubs are limiting shifts to 6 hours and 5 days max to keep total weekly hours under 32 to avoid providing benefits. I know some girls at a specific club who, if I added the hours they were at the club before this year would be well over 40 hours, maybe 50 hours. Now these specific girls (which are the minority not the majority) will have to cram what they're used to earning into those fewer hours - which means one of a few things: - they will either balance hours at another club - go to a different state (Vegas? as others have mentioned) - hustle more (not sure if that means squeezing guys for more money or dropping prices to get more customers) - just deal with the lower weekly income and maybe get a hobby to fill their extra time - create profiles on SA

>>> "I am still curious if people can comment on if the clubs are dead in CA. Are the girls all going into another line of work or they going to the next nearest places to dance w/o employee status?" I don't go often enough to know for sure but I went in the afternoon today. I usually go nights. It certainly seemed slow, I think most girls who have to decide on shift are deciding on night shift. Two of the girls I talked to today were describing the same thing going on, that on one hand it's positive as they get benefits and added protections but on the other hand it limits their schedule flexibility and means any girls who can't earn the base probably won't be working long (which was one of my predictions).

I don't get the requirement of employee status on 100% of dancers working in a club. I can understand the implication of requiring establishments to offer it as an option but forcing every dancer into employee status in order to be able to work in the club seems beyond legal. We have multiple employees at my work who are contracted but work almost 40 hours weekly, and they prefer this for various reasons. Who are we to override their preference? I believe that the clubs are doing the math and realizing that although they don't have to force employee status, if even just some of their dancers want this then they can't manage the club by treating some dancers one way and other dancers another - that will be drama and chaos as most dancers have no education or ability to understand workplace concepts, they just care about making the most money possible for the least effort.

So if I told TrapBaby304 to go fuck herself, is that covered under Penis Code 653.23 or does it only count if I also tell her how much she should charge for fucking herself?

I don't want to meet these ladies in real life, I can meet them in the club and not have to deal with drama because they know my "TUSCL handle".

>>> "Well, something has to be done to keep the site from dying!" How is it dying? If you mean forum participation I don't think that impacts the value of the site other than traffic from search engines. Mos people don't come here to chat it up with fellow PLs, they come looking to figure out if a club is worth going to and what to expect. >>> "The most I see is the attempt to turn TUSCL into another backpages but with "verified" hoes. We all know how sites like that end up." That would be a bad idea, yes. That's why I question trying to up the ante to get increased dancer participation and then somehow flip that participation into advertising. Great way to eventually shutter the site. >>> "A more professional looking up to date layout would probably be the best thing for the site in the short term." I agree with this and sent the suggestion to founder a while back. Every other page type on the site has a totally different navigation and it is confusing as fuck for anyone who might stumble on the site from a search. Sites like this where the navigation and look and feel are treated like an afterthought project a message to visitors that the owner doesn't give a shit. It's not that hard to maintain a consistent menu interface across a whole site and not that much harder to make pages look better and be more readable & useful and not just look like a bunch of white boxes with drop shadows.

$200-300 for casual 1-2 hours is the normal max for any hottie in LA. Some get more because they are called using an escort ad (which is a bad idea) and others get more because they ask and a guy pays without thinking. Anyone paying over $400 for about an hour of time better be getting a Scarlett Johansson lookalike who swallows or be rich and $400 is like loose change in the couch. I have slept with over 50 LA girls p4p (maybe close to 100), most hotties, and I can count on one hand the number where the agreement was over $300 per visit, but never $400 or more. Most were $200-250 and many repeats. During the economic slump, $100-160 was the norm. Most were nice girls, some airheads. no ROBs.

Why do you want more dancers on the site? To turn this place into StripperWeb?

They may be 2% of your traffic but I would gather that they are the majority of your organic landing page traffic. When splitting the boards, I don't think anyone suggested making any private. The splitting of the boards was supposed to help establish rules so that rule breakers can be properly banned. Also, who cares if anyone can read posts, just keep trolls from taking over certain boards. I don't get how any of this could be a headache, I would code up a few scripts to automate most of the BS whether you have 1 board or 50.

For Google and SEO. If you close it, your traffic will mostly disappear. You can close it and just lock old discussions but eventually traffic will disappear.

Technically none, it only boils down to money. I've never taken a dancer OTC but of all that I have talked to with even a hint of OTC it only boils down to money - there would be no rejection so long as they right amount was offered. The highest I have ever heard so far was $500.

Only once, she asked, recorded it on her phone, but was just a POV blowjob. I did the recording. Never knew why she wanted to do that but my guess is she was trying to make her boyfriend jealous. She wasn't a prostitute or stripper, just a fwb open minded girl who was into doing a regular arrangement.

Many thoughts pop up when I see this. One is do we have a male version so I know where I really stand? :) The other is I'm somewhat relieved that every girl I have ever had sex with was at least a 6. One other thought is that I have seen many girls in life who were far more attractive than the 9's on this and not because of the niche thing, but definitely more gorgeous than these. Not saying the world is full of them but the upper limit on this visual chart is cutting short a bit.

I don't like anorexics, either. These girls have done nothing with their bodies except liposuction on their mid sections or put on skimpy clothes. If these girls are considered hot then most of the girls I have dated in my life must have been supermodels.

Last time I was in Vegas, it was easy to tell the casino bars were filled with hookers. I didn't partake (it's equivalent to picking up a street walker) but it seemed like all you have to do is be decently dressed and just slightly hover near or sit at a bar for a few minutes. You will be sniped very quickly with a "hello" or them giving you some attention that no normal lady would give to a stranger within the first few seconds. Unless you look like a male model, I guess.

All ass & thighs are too big. I get that a lot of the younger and hip-hop oriented generation seem to like this but it is not that attractive. We used to call these girls fat. All these girls have done is lipo their midsections, if even that, and throw on bikini and heels. I can trip over these girls just walking randomly around the poor neighborhoods of LA.

What if your blood alcohol level is high and you let her drink your cum?

Did this all start based on a few no-other-option-in-life dancers wanting to turn their stripper work into a 9-5 with benefits? I wonder now how many dancers (I would be the majority) are now pissed because of this? Some who used to be able to do 2-3 days to pull in all their money doing double shifts 2 or 3 days in a row now have to string out their shifts across most of a week. Based on the distribution of time most guys have (like me), that means less likely overlap where preferred dancers will be on a shift when the guy is available to go to the club. Also for "specials" days where some girls are used to having a larger influx of guys, her ability to pull money on those days is cut in half. I think in the short term this will shake out poor earners and leave the hottest girls and ones who can hustle to reap the rewards but with the schedule compromise and other factors, this will become a lousy situation. How many of these girls will want to lose more days of their week prepping to go to the club and staying up til 2AM working more days of the week? The ones that used to only do nights when their shift spilled over (and simply leave early on the 2nd shift) will now rarely or never do nights. How did we get to such a point to allow government interference on practically every aspect of our lives?

SA is a huge effort and a monthly cost that doesn't add any helpful benefit, it's just a baseline. Over $1,000 per year just as a way to make first contact. Some men go on & off the service so the cost can be brought down, but the general responsiveness of female profiles require much effort and getting actual meets is even harder. The service has mechanisms to detect when pay-per-meet is discussed and block communications and a lot of these girls even if they are willing to do per meet will want high dollar amounts. The site would seem to only be useful for high rollers who want a regular girl for many meets over a long time. I think any social media strategy would be useful to consider, but it seems mostly like a crap shoot and a good way to risk exposure. The catch-22 would be having a profile that's anonymous without it being too vague or verifiable to get ignored by the girl you are trying to communicate with. Girls who would be willing to do p4p and are not outright advertising themselves as hos will not want to do it out in the open, nor quickly positively reply to someone they can't verify. I would be wiling to share (via PM discussions only) the strategies I used to use for CL & BP that maybe could be transformed into a world where neither of those options are useful any more. Nothing could beat what was possible using those options for various reasons, they were an ecosystem that lent itself to almost perfect ability to remain anonymous while being able to meet so many gorgeous open minded babes. I would only be willing to share discussions with others who are willing to share their own experiences and help put together a strategy for the current reality of 2018-19, which has to include social and similar options.

I think he means how to use Instagram to find "open minded" babes who are open to meet for p4p. I know there are possibilities but I've yet to crack this code. Any babe worth seeking for this has thousands of followers and drowning in DMs, there is no way to stand out that way. It's also not going to work if your own Instagram account looks like shit. If you use a real personal account to contact with, you also risk having it screenshot and shared and trash your reputation.