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6 years ago
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TonyT2what the worlds needs now is love, more love.
About last night and SA.......
A few weeks back I had mentioned I was coming to Vegas and I used SA as a means to meet women.
I saw some huge differences in how the game is played here than other parts of the country.
But to give you a bit of encouragement Tony
She showed up on time.
She was exactly the girl in the pictures
She actually has a job and a career ( late 20's)
She knew more about the ins and outs of the strip clubs around Vegas than anyone else I have ever talked to about them.
We drank at the bar, had dinner and went back to the room afterwards. She left sometime around 3 AM this morning.
Set your standards high and walk if for any reason something doesn't feel right.
Keep your word. It's okay to have a budget but do not be cheap.
And treat them like a person ( most guys don't which increases the odds of her flaking out on you)
FWIW I am a hard grader on a person's looks---this girl was a solid 8.5 --a fitness buff.
They are out there and if they are not a stripper looking to find a side arrangement ( nothing wrong with that but it is a different vibe) chances are she is just as concerned about meeting you as you are about meeting her.
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6 years ago
I was on just before checking in here as well.
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6 years ago
I'm headed to Vegas next week and am going to try ( if their schedule matches up with mine) to see a Golden Knights game.
I'm a diehard Penguins Fan.
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6 years ago
I doubt the Celtics hold their ranking in the East.
I've seen the 76'ers the last couple of games--based on how they are playing at the moment it would not surprise me to see them end up in the finals.
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6 years ago
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ConundrumHeaven! (Why is it so hot in here? And why does the bouncer have a trident?)
I got mine back this morning.......sh8t I hate paying taxes............there is a lot of lap dance money going to some ugly ass people in DC and not strippers.........
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6 years ago
Hopefully there aren’t any long term issues from those injections.
"Have you heard her voice?" :-)
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6 years ago
P 411 isn't going anywhere --at least not yet.
Their statement:
Many of you are contacting us concerned about SESTA/FOSTA.
While none of us know what the future will hold, we have no plans of going anywhere any time soon. We are a 100% Canadian owned and operated company, and we work very hard to ensure that only freethinking and consenting adults of legal age are members of P411.
We will continue support efforts made to tackle the legitimate issue of human trafficking, while offering a platform to help consenting adults who freely choose to spend time with one another stay safe.
Please let us know if you have any questions, and thank you for being part of the P411 network.
Always,
Gina
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7 years ago
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ConundrumHeaven! (Why is it so hot in here? And why does the bouncer have a trident?)
On a different note and a bit more serious typically the guys who pay taxes tend to cut back on their trips to the clubs in April and it leads into what can be the slow season...taxes, end of school, summer, etc.
I've mentioned this on here before. Some agree. Some do not but overall since I started going back to clubs, 2016, there are not as many club patrons and there is a definite decline in the male species known as the "whale".
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7 years ago
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ConundrumHeaven! (Why is it so hot in here? And why does the bouncer have a trident?)
Take a client.....if you have one with an open mind................eat there, talk a business....something along the lines of "how's work?"
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7 years ago
Not for anything I'll add one more comment and then step aside.
I like to think I'm decent at reading people--men and women both.
As a rule the first time I opt for private dances with an girl I'm comfortable in my mind at least I have an idea on what her limits are and where the line is drawn. What I don't know is the club security and manager--because I don't know this I tend to be very hands off the first time and let her initiate contact. In my mind it doesn't make me passive--it makes me smart.
If I have the right girl she knows how carefully she is being watched--and she knows her own reputation within the club--trust me the bouncers/managers or whatever the hell you want to call them know the girls --if they don't the other girls tell them who does what.
So when a girl tells me I can do more or she moves in for more contact I'm relying on her to tell me she knows the camera system isn't being watched all that closely.
So when I see girls complaining I wonder where is the security if she has let it be known she is ( and I am quoting my one ex) good girl. And as twentyfive stated maybe there needs to be a bit of introspection on the part of the person yelling "wolf"
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7 years ago
@ Subraman--the only comment I can add is simply to clarify the media source seems to have a particular image they want to portray to the public. Over the years I've become more and more aware the media doesn't report the news it reports as it wants the news to be viewed.
I also feel this goes past just the point of who sucks what and whom.
You can do a test for yourself and type in your browser just about any topic related to stripping and regardless of what browser you use or the topic the articles for the past decade are all going to read very close in content.
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7 years ago
@ flagooner---more so reading too many articles on the Internet that hit the same points as if they are the norm and not finding any dancer out in the real world matching up--not even close.
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7 years ago
Similiar to the comment I made yesterday in another topic---all of the interviews of the dancers you find on the Internet hit the same high points/talking points and for the most part seldom ever reflect what you see ( or at least what I have seen) in real life.
When I first started to revisit clubs after not going into one for almost 20 years I read a few articles --plain and simple on this site we would refer to most of the content as SS.
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7 years ago
^^^^^ had relatively normal lives before they started stripping. ( they key word being before)
Cashman 1234 more than any other statement this proves one of the main points I try to make on here and it fits in 100% with what I have observed first hand as well.
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7 years ago
I'll give her this much.....she's being honest on some points, which is more than I gather out of most of the articles I see out on the Internet.
As a rule anytime I see an article in print it's typically with the mystical unicorn that chooses the profession because she likes people and saves enough money while at the same time going to school to get her undergrad, grad, and doctorate simultaneously as she funds the cure of cancer without touching a drop of liquor or any type of drug.
The job gives her the opportunity to learn people skills as well that ensure her a six figure job for a major corporation unless she decides to start her own business typically in real estate or fashion.......
All cynicism aside I am sure there are women who do save money and do go on to having a happy and successful life after working in a strip club ( I also feel it depends a lot on the club environment she works in) but the % is from what I have seen less that 5% and even those 5% have been impacted on some level.
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7 years ago
Nope---and like it has been stated less directly above the longer they are in the business the less chance they have of being normal.
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7 years ago
An update of sorts: Via SA I seem to have a company as much as I can handle. The steps seem to be a bit different than what I have ran into before but I have an extremely attractive girl as often as I want her around for a set price per night.
Cocktail Waitress at one of the casino's.
What was different
Nobody wants to commit or even consider you in advance--seems women are spur of the moment.
Many of the women on SA do not live in Las Vegas ( mentioned before)
They deal with even more flakes than other areas of the country and not having a picture on my profile seemed to hurt more at first.
They save your messages and come back to you --even weeks later.
Perks --like being able to swim at the resort pool and drink means as much as cash ( hard to believe but from my limited experience it was the game changer)
I have back-ups if my initial choice doesn't work out. :--)
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7 years ago
I will now...............
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7 years ago
As a rule over the past few years I find a girl on SA--she's my steady. If, and only when I have the time, I go to clubs. I look for variety there. I go with no real expectations and if something develops great, if not I have a good time.
I had been away from the strip club scene for years and got pulled back in because of women who were on SA that were strippers. Went to a couple of clubs and had success finding good looking women. And then of course my ex---turned to stripping during a break-up period.
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7 years ago
Some guys come from the escort world where explicit details including names seems to be the norm and they treat TUSCL the same way.
I never disclosed all the details in the escort world either........the reasons why may differ slightly but the concept is the same. A woman has the last word on choice and what she offers no matter what venue we play in.
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7 years ago
I'm surprised this even needs to be said. There are so many variables with what happens between a dancer and you I'm not sure what could be gained anyway---there is very little upside and a lot of downside to giving out a name.
I'm not big on reviews past the general feel of the club and the management( typically if they treat customers right they will treat everyone well unless you give them a reason not to)
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7 years ago
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gothamytefrom that Adam Westsiiiide of Gotham
"whos this" ( I kid you not---must have been one of a large number on the need rent list)
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7 years ago
Yes--the Independents will. The odds go down with girls who work for an agency or an incall AMP.
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7 years ago
In the past yes. In recent years no.
There was a tall thin blonde about 15 years ago that lived in Frederick, Maryland ( what the hell she was doing there I never understood) but she was a lot of fun and was a legit Porn Star. Regardless if she was an actress with me or not it was great.
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7 years ago
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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
Most of the dancers I know have a tolerance built up to the point they can drink me under the table.......and many want to feel a buzz when they work ( again not all)
But to answer your question no. I wouldn't regardless of what might happen if the situations were reversed.