The guys touch me complaint has gotten very very old. I want to read an interview with an honest extras girl, not another one of these generic no-touch bitches.
Similiar to the comment I made yesterday in another topic---all of the interviews of the dancers you find on the Internet hit the same high points/talking points and for the most part seldom ever reflect what you see ( or at least what I have seen) in real life.
When I first started to revisit clubs after not going into one for almost 20 years I read a few articles --plain and simple on this site we would refer to most of the content as SS.
There is no sex in the champagne room. Given the present climate of leo enforcement in their typical hamhanded and reactionary way I dont mind a little bs and window dressing on our favorite hobby. We need these kind of stories and not the hard core stuff.
-->"The guys touch me complaint has gotten very very old. I want to read an interview with an honest extras girl, not another one of these generic no-touch bitches."
Agree, I think many of these articles have that point of view from SW types that they know in advance they want to promote . Although I also wonder if this is self-fulfilling -- perhaps extras girls don't want to be interviewed about how many dicks they suck, whereas SW types are all too happy to be quoted in articles about how they don't like being touched. "When you remind guys they cannot touch you" lol
On the other other hand, I also wonder whether the story would be any different, even if they DID find an extras girl to interview. Extras or no-extras, most strippers will have a line beyond which they expect to be asked permission (even if it's implicit). I mean, escorts and especially FBSM girls are pretty open about complaining about exactly the same thing -- guys who help themselves to whatever they want. Not "guys can't touch me" like these SW type girls, but there's still a door beyond which they want a more respectful interaction before they surrender the fruit therein
@ Subraman--the only comment I can add is simply to clarify the media source seems to have a particular image they want to portray to the public. Over the years I've become more and more aware the media doesn't report the news it reports as it wants the news to be viewed.
I also feel this goes past just the point of who sucks what and whom.
You can do a test for yourself and type in your browser just about any topic related to stripping and regardless of what browser you use or the topic the articles for the past decade are all going to read very close in content.
Before making my point let me say I treat all women with the respect they earn, by how they treat me.
Now here’s the relevant point, not that there aren’t people who cross lines, but for the most part the girls who carry themselves in a responsible fashion are treated with respect. I suspect that when it happens over and again, multiple times to particular strippers, it is because they are crossing lines by their own behavior be it getting overly familiar, or drinking too much without giving thought to the consequences of their own actions.
I’m not blaming the victims, I am saying that some introspection might be in order.
Not for anything I'll add one more comment and then step aside.
I like to think I'm decent at reading people--men and women both.
As a rule the first time I opt for private dances with an girl I'm comfortable in my mind at least I have an idea on what her limits are and where the line is drawn. What I don't know is the club security and manager--because I don't know this I tend to be very hands off the first time and let her initiate contact. In my mind it doesn't make me passive--it makes me smart.
If I have the right girl she knows how carefully she is being watched--and she knows her own reputation within the club--trust me the bouncers/managers or whatever the hell you want to call them know the girls --if they don't the other girls tell them who does what.
So when a girl tells me I can do more or she moves in for more contact I'm relying on her to tell me she knows the camera system isn't being watched all that closely.
So when I see girls complaining I wonder where is the security if she has let it be known she is ( and I am quoting my one ex) good girl. And as twentyfive stated maybe there needs to be a bit of introspection on the part of the person yelling "wolf"
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When I first started to revisit clubs after not going into one for almost 20 years I read a few articles --plain and simple on this site we would refer to most of the content as SS.
Was there anything new in this expose? It’s kinky and dirty, and there are bags of cash, woo goo!
Agree, I think many of these articles have that point of view from SW types that they know in advance they want to promote . Although I also wonder if this is self-fulfilling -- perhaps extras girls don't want to be interviewed about how many dicks they suck, whereas SW types are all too happy to be quoted in articles about how they don't like being touched. "When you remind guys they cannot touch you" lol
On the other other hand, I also wonder whether the story would be any different, even if they DID find an extras girl to interview. Extras or no-extras, most strippers will have a line beyond which they expect to be asked permission (even if it's implicit). I mean, escorts and especially FBSM girls are pretty open about complaining about exactly the same thing -- guys who help themselves to whatever they want. Not "guys can't touch me" like these SW type girls, but there's still a door beyond which they want a more respectful interaction before they surrender the fruit therein
I also feel this goes past just the point of who sucks what and whom.
You can do a test for yourself and type in your browser just about any topic related to stripping and regardless of what browser you use or the topic the articles for the past decade are all going to read very close in content.
Now here’s the relevant point, not that there aren’t people who cross lines, but for the most part the girls who carry themselves in a responsible fashion are treated with respect. I suspect that when it happens over and again, multiple times to particular strippers, it is because they are crossing lines by their own behavior be it getting overly familiar, or drinking too much without giving thought to the consequences of their own actions.
I’m not blaming the victims, I am saying that some introspection might be in order.
I like to think I'm decent at reading people--men and women both.
As a rule the first time I opt for private dances with an girl I'm comfortable in my mind at least I have an idea on what her limits are and where the line is drawn. What I don't know is the club security and manager--because I don't know this I tend to be very hands off the first time and let her initiate contact. In my mind it doesn't make me passive--it makes me smart.
If I have the right girl she knows how carefully she is being watched--and she knows her own reputation within the club--trust me the bouncers/managers or whatever the hell you want to call them know the girls --if they don't the other girls tell them who does what.
So when a girl tells me I can do more or she moves in for more contact I'm relying on her to tell me she knows the camera system isn't being watched all that closely.
So when I see girls complaining I wonder where is the security if she has let it be known she is ( and I am quoting my one ex) good girl. And as twentyfive stated maybe there needs to be a bit of introspection on the part of the person yelling "wolf"