Comments by Warrenboy75 (page 13)

Both White and Edelman were also on my FF team. Both had good games. The Patriots controlled the lines on both sides of the ball. The Chargers have been a second half team most of the year and a road team. I had the Pats but I thought it would be very, very close. ( and it wasn't) It only locks down what I had said in my previous comment. ( to me at least.) Chiefs vs Saints. I don't see the Pats going into KC and winning.

I think the time has come and gone for the Pats.....I haven't changed my mind since I saw the Saints beat the Rams the first week of November. Saints vs Chiefs in the Superbowl---Chargers are the random element. I missed the post yesterday ( saw we had one troll over here tracking up the board with their nonsense and shut the board down without posting or reading further) So far in my poll for the playoffs I've missed one game. The Eagles beat the Bears. I had Anderson as one of my backs early on in the FF but the Panthers never allowed him to touch the ball......the last couple of games showed what he is capable of doing.

From what I have experienced and read it seems to be more the norm in Detroit than other places. BBBJ is a lot easier to find in my own experiences but to be fair I don't ask. I'm more an OTC person since I know there are cameras.

Who really knows for sure? Do they like me or the money I spend? It is possible both but I tend to side on they like me for the money I spend until they show me different. I've had a few instances come up over the past few years which allow me to believe in some cases they do like me for me. Feedback of sorts and two instances where other clients have come up to me and basically asked me what is it I have going for me And I agree with twentyfive never talk about any of the other girls regardless if they become gossipy or not.

@ twentyfive---a good majority of them go on to law school but working for political campaigns, government jobs, legislative assistants, policy and public analysis, and public relations come to mind.

The only one I ever saw regularly was the one place in Brook Park ( Northeast Ohio) I went to on a steady basis for a period of time. He'd come by and chat for a moment or two and disappear for the rest of the night. He was also one of the more business minded. Because I tend to sit at the bar you could hear the conversations he had with the bartenders, serving staff, and the security, etc. Some of the larger clubs in places like Vegas I would imagine are an entirely different world of what goes on. If there are 50, 75, or 100 girls working a night and the club is huge minus the gambling the management style has to be more like a casino with various floor managers.

Founder referenced it as well but keep in mind if you live in SF, LA, NYC or DC your cost of living is higher than most places in the USA. And IT Manager is all over the place.........there are so many variables it's hard to list them all.

jacklash--- Christie's is probably the best downtown club in Cleveland if you are looking for along the lake. I don't live in the area but I am there often for work. I plan on going there next time I am in town.

Think about the motivation for becoming a strip club manager. Put yourself in their shoes for a moment. There are a couple I talk to when I am in the clubs and if you listen to them for a few moments it isn't that hard to understand what and how they think. Some of them are good guys. Some are not but keep in mind one of their job descriptions is trying to "herd cats" when it comes to interfacing with the dancers and waitresses. There might be some very good reasons he was asking her the questions he was, including that her past at the club included issues with the very items he was bringing to her attention. As far as girls bringing ideas to the manager.......sometimes what is good for the dancer is not good for the club.

^ From everything he has stated DC is the poster child for someone who should compose his thoughts, get up and walk away from the PC, read them again a minute or two later and then decide if he should hit the send button. When I did moderate a discussion board a few years ago it was the advice I tried to give people when they felt they were misunderstood. Some took it, some do not.

^ Subraman--there isn't much in your comments I haven't stated myself in various post over the last couple of months and for the most part I agree but I will point out a couple of different points of view. Perhaps the two posters you referenced provide motivation for people not to want to only be on the front room page. BF Skinner had some good insight into what negative reinforcement can do. Knowing there is a VIP Room and understanding the value it represents as opposed to being a regular member works as well. Secondly reviews---and I was going to make a comment on this until I saw founders post(s) and thought it could wait. I formed my opinion on reviews a long, long time ago. To me they hold a lot less value than some of you seem to place on them.. There are too many variables, too much interaction on a human level that makes the review by itself about as valuable as the tip of an iceberg. Then there is the culture of the site. When I first came here I had been to about six clubs after a long hiatus of not going to any --talking years. and started out with 1 review to see how it would be received as well as a few on the board comments about a second place. It took about 30 seconds before I started getting feedback via DM's about what I shouldn't say. I didn't take offense but I realized the real value of a review is to a large extent what shouldn't be included in them. So I tell people ask me offline and I'm happy to share. Same approach I took in the past with TER, JAG and TBD ( all three as far as I know dead at this point but all at one time were THE board to go to for information) The dancers make a place and they come and go, move around, change names, hair color, gain weight, become jaded, you might remind them of their weird uncle Ernie.......your cologne might be the same as the last guy that stiffed them their VIP tip........ From just two years ago the first five dancers I ever met outside the club have all left the clubs in the Northeast Ohio area and are in Vegas, Detroit, or LA and that doesn't include my ex that I reference once in while because I met her before she became a dancer although I understand she is also back in Vegas. So in addition to being based on human interaction they also have a short shelf life. For the most part I give people the benefit of the doubt before I classify them as a troll but once I do I ignore them from there on out but most people on here tend to feed the trolls instead of starve them.

I'd leave it open --it serves as a proving ground if nothing else for new posters. ( short answer)

Subraman Shadowcat Warrior 15 Cashman Twentyfive Shaillyn would have been on the list if he is still around --he doesn't post but it doesn't mean he isn't still lurking. The only feedback you asked for is names so....

Ironman I agree --and I've always been that way about working out.....and I also admit I never pay much attention to the flyers, but I knew something was different when I saw the mob up front by the entrance and the tables and chairs all in use. Over the years I've been either a YMCA person or belonged to a local club and not a chain. I finally got fed up every time I went to a YMCA that the rules were different for what my membership covered and what it didn't.

JB it isn't that at all. I'm just not one to shop with a female especially if she is trying on clothes. It's not a winning combination and to me at least i value my time way too much. I'm pretty good at buying gifts even but the difference is I put some thought into it before I head out the door. As far as lunch--yes if I have time.

Say nothing.......from first hand experience......."run, Forrest, run"

I drink green tea............but most experts now are back on the coffee bandwagon, especially if you lift weights. As for PF--it's weird I've had a membership since this past summer and never saw or heard anything about pizza until this past Monday. It certainly brought more people into the place --more than I like since I am not one to socialize much when I am working out.

I can't shop with a woman. I seriously believe the male and female brain is wired differently when it comes to making a purchase.

About 1/3 outright reject....but I use more of a soft sell approach, sometimes using SA as a backdrop to see if the girl is on the site. If I recall I'm not the only one on here that does this.

Nice call.....and yes. Here is the problem I face. Without PF I'm at the mercy of hotel gyms when I travel. With PF I have a place my membership is honored and I can work out. For me that means literally what my name tag states.....any place in the USA on any given day. It isn't a cost issue for me. It's an availability issue. And the YMCA and Golds Gym talk and sell a good game but the fine print on walking into one of their places away from home is not as easy. I joined PF last summer. Last night was the first time I saw the pizza. The guy behind the desk saw my expression and shrugged his shoulders....sort of a yeah, I know it is messed up but it brings people in.

You can't make this sh*t up.......last night I went to my local health club ( upper body night with weights) and it was Pizza night.......There had to be 50 boxes of pizza stacked in a row ten across, five or six per stack. Something they started the first of the year......and when I asked it's going to be a every Monday occurrence. And no I didn't eat any but there were plenty of people eating watching other people work out.........

^ I always am........very rarely in life to I lose my composure but I can't say the same thing about her......personally I would find it funny but I don't think she would.

I start with a salad probably 80-85% of the time I am home for dinner and it does help. For me personally the hardest two things are 1) when I travel for work 2) if I get hungry after 9 PM at night.

I'm half tempted to go there myself since I have never seen her dance in a club before but I have a feeling it wouldn't turn out so great and I'd be asked to leave.......... I will be in Vegas in March of this year.