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Strip Club Managers

pistola
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Why are they so dumb? Theories?

I was at a club 2 weeks ago. Sitting by the manager and bartender. Civvie comes in asks the manager about working there and tells him she worked there 3 years ago. His first question was when do you want to start, she said now.
He proceeded to give her every reason NOT to work there. Do you have this card, this form, why do you want this shift, we have minimum days requirements, etc. Another club I had the gals tell me they were always suggesting ways to improve business even offering to run the clubs IG page and take pics of themselves and the manager shut them down. Anyone know why these guys get hired? Is it all because they're a childhood friend of the owner? What gives?

21 comments

  • jackslash
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    6 years ago
    Intelligent, educated, competent people have better career opportunities than strip club manager.
  • TrapBaby304
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    6 years ago
    That's not being stupid. That's following the rules and trying to make sure she's accountable. That's normal. Every job has qualifications and dancing isn't just showing up and taking your clothes off. Some states require health cards sheriff cards, whatever

    Letting dancers run the club or run marketing for the club is stupid cos dancers come and go and work multiple clubs. It also potentially allows drama to start up if someone doesn't feel adequately represented in pics or whatever.
  • steeldog65
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    6 years ago
    Jackslash+++
  • steeldog65
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    6 years ago
    Although, if I had it to do over and I weren't married when I was 25-30, it would have been fun.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    6 years ago
    To play devil's advocate - I'm sure there are reasons managers do certain things that don't make sense to us from a cutie's vantage-point but have to be done that way.

    I also think many of these guys are not SC-enthusiasts themselves and don't really know what SC-custies prefer.

    I also assume these guys don't have ivy-league business degrees and are basically more like club baby-sitting just making sure the basics of keeping the club open are covered and they don't have the time or talent to do more than that.
  • rickdugan
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    6 years ago
    pistola posted:"Do you have this card, this form, why do you want this shift, we have minimum days requirements, etc."

    You mean they actually wanted to (1) comply with whatever legal requirements they have; (2) be sure that she didn't have a spurious reason for showing up out of the blue to work that shift; and (3) let her know upfront that they have certain coverage requirements for girls who want to work the prime shifts? I hear ya' that guy is a real moron. ;)

    pistola posted: "Another club I had the gals tell me they were always suggesting ways to improve business even offering to run the clubs IG page and take pics of themselves and the manager shut them down."

    Is it possible that they already had another plan in the works? Or they were concerned about legal issues with letting the girls take it over?
    Or that they possibly knew something else that you and the girls didn"t?

    Now there are plenty of managers who are indeed morons. Usually you can tell when they do capricious things like run side scams, mistreat the girls and customers needlessly or do some other really obvious stupid stuff. But nothing in that description above proved the point with these particular managers. Just because a customer thinks that he knows more about running a club than a manager doesn't mean that he actually does.
  • pistola
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    6 years ago
    @Rick aka smarty pants,

    #1 I watched the manager talk the gal out of working there, she walked back to her friends, and was shaking her head in disbelief. She, her gf, and her sugar daddy soon departed. She was cute, I can’t believe that happened. You would actually be familiar with this club, I think.

    #2 I’m referring to the now defunct Olympic Gardens in Vegas. The new mgmt that bought it from the Elardis didn’t know shit how to run it, the longtime gals tried to help, the mgmt obviously ran it into the ground which was a fucking travesty.

    Any more witticisms?
  • pistola
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    6 years ago
    Sorry I meant to finish that with a ;)

    ;)
  • PaulDrake
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    6 years ago
    I agree with papi. I think some things about the way the strip club is run don't make any sense to dancers or customers but actually make sense in the bizzaro world of strip clubs.

    There is something I heard about Lotus (car) dealerships. That salespeople there usually try to talk prospective customers out of buying. Lotus cars are pretty hardcore and a lot of prospective customers end up deciding not to buy them. People that want to buy a Lotus are going to do it regardless and the reverse psychology seems to almost talk them into it. So even though it seems counter intuitive it makes sense to try and dissuade customers from buying a car. They weed out the time wasters. There are probably a lot of similar things in strip clubs, decisions club managers make that seem counter intuitive along with genuine lazyness.
  • MackTruck
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    6 years ago
    I have never really had any issues with any club managers
  • TrapBaby304
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    6 years ago
    the way strip clubs are run make sense to everyone. maybe you're just too stupid to get how a strip club s run. duh!
  • pistola
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    6 years ago
    ^Its a business like any other.
  • Nidan111
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    6 years ago
    I sit and talk with most of the club managers. The only manager whom I thought was truly intelligent was/is actually the OWNER of 2 clubs in MO. His clubs are very well ran, the girls stay dancing for years, have a very regular clientele who pay the girls and do not do stupid shit to get the clubs in trouble. They police the custies that come in and bounce them for bad behavior, drugs, picture taking, etc. The dancers all rate between 7-8 with an occasional 9-10. Fun places to go for a night to watch cuties on the dance pole if you are NOT seeking extras.
  • Warrenboy75
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    6 years ago
    Think about the motivation for becoming a strip club manager. Put yourself in their shoes for a moment.

    There are a couple I talk to when I am in the clubs and if you listen to them for a few moments it isn't that hard to understand what and how they think.

    Some of them are good guys. Some are not but keep in mind one of their job descriptions is trying to "herd cats" when it comes to interfacing with the dancers and waitresses.

    There might be some very good reasons he was asking her the questions he was, including that her past at the club included issues with the very items he was bringing to her attention.

    As far as girls bringing ideas to the manager.......sometimes what is good for the dancer is not good for the club.
  • rickdugan
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    6 years ago
    pistoloa posted: "Any more witticisms? ;)"

    Yes actually. Next time lead with the stuff that actually supports your point. We aren't mind readers and when you say something like, "The driver stopped at the red traffic light and then waited until it turned green to continue" to support your contention that the driver was a shitty one, someone is naturally going to question that conclusion. Know what I mean? ;)

    As far as your follow-up points, I have to say that the demise of Olympic Gardens was truly baffling to me too. With respect to #1, I still wonder if he had some reason why he didn't want the girl working there. It might not have helped that she showed up with a weird entourage including a female friend and some older dude. IDK, I wasn't there, but I'm still not ready to jump on board with that one just yet.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    6 years ago
    I don't believe that a lot of top notch managers target strip clubs as a career path.

    That said, this guy sounds like he was following rules handed down via the owner. I've encountered some seriously shitty strip club managers in the past, and a few really good ones.

    Most of them hold onto their jobs simply by making sure that money is being made and no one gets stabbed.
  • joewebber
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    6 years ago
    Pistola, Rick had some vaild points. regardless of what happened at Olympic Gardens, sometimes managers really do have insight into what's going on.
    for instance-
    why did that stripper leave the club three years ago?
    why did she wanna come back? if the club went to all the trouble of getting a her a new permit, would she continue to work there more than a few days, or would she quit once her sugar daddy got tired of her being away?
    if she left because she got pregnant, who's to know whether or not she'd be gone in a few months again.
    strippers are flakes. good managers know and acknowledge this, and compensate for it.

    the longer you're in a business, the more history repeats itself. you can identify certain personality types after a while, and know their behavior.

    and i'm not saying that all managers are smart. there are a ton of really stupid ones that fell up the hill, and that their actions lead to clubs closing.
  • pistola
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    6 years ago
    With regards to #1, idk it was a very odd interaction.

    With regards to OG in Vegas closing, the new owners weren't the brightest. Gals wanted to promote on IG and update the website, asked to lower the VIP rooms by $50-100 to be right under Sapphire and Rhino, and this was one of 2 clubs in Vegas with Video Poker and the new managers stopped comping drinks for players until they put $60 in the machines. It was a sad downfall as that was a great venue.

    Not saying all mgrs are bad, agree that sometimes making sure people are having a good time and not getting shot are top priorities. I just see a lot of worthless managers. For example, let's say I'm a manager and I've got 10 gals on shift and half of them are on their cell phones, get them off their phones and tell then to circulate. If I saw a custy walk in and not get approached in 20 minutes, I'd probably say hi and send a girl over. Just little things. Top clubs usually have good mgrs, but I notice that more often than not poor mgmt. and I wonder why because it seems like it would be an interesting job. Never a dull day with the opportunity for good tips!
  • twentyfive
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    6 years ago
    If a club is managed properly you’ll never notice the manager, the best managers have limited interaction with customers.
  • Warrenboy75
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    6 years ago
    The only one I ever saw regularly was the one place in Brook Park ( Northeast Ohio) I went to on a steady basis for a period of time. He'd come by and chat for a moment or two and disappear for the rest of the night. He was also one of the more business minded. Because I tend to sit at the bar you could hear the conversations he had with the bartenders, serving staff, and the security, etc.

    Some of the larger clubs in places like Vegas I would imagine are an entirely different world of what goes on. If there are 50, 75, or 100 girls working a night and the club is huge minus the gambling the management style has to be more like a casino with various floor managers.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    6 years ago
    Take it easy... the bathroom troll needs some hope of upward mobility...
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