Comments by Ch3ll

I travel from Sierra Vista to Tucson clubs since they are the nearest and since over about 6 years of mongering, I'd say Curves has the best and fittest girls. I wouldn't recommend Venom or Christie's. Also, wouldnt recommend Love cabaret. Not for security reasons, but just the quality of dancers. Raiders Reef is almost on par with Curves, as it's their sister club and I think they still do a month long pass deal OR you could buy a $25 calendar (while supplies last) and get a month pass for the whole year.

I don't know if it was a certain special character in mine, but I just stayed in the browser that performed the reset. Hopefully I don't have to change on next logon.

Ever since the height of COVID and now post COVID the clubs in my area went up $5 on floor dances as well as VIP. Most dancers I encounter in the club now are putting their own $5 or more on top of the going rate. Whenever they or I ask for a dance I always ask what's their price. I always counter the $5 plus rates and if they remain firm I'll only get a dance if she's super hot. I can't tell if the service is subpar if negotiated lower than the $5 plus, but I tend to just wait out for the going rate ladies.

This was alot of sh*t to read and I must say I skimmed over it. So @BigThirdEye I'd say keep it cool and continue to acknowledge the one stripper you dropped $2400 on, but spend money on other strippers and it's a good chance your experiences will top, exceed and come in below Ms. $2400.

I'm still trying to weed out outright hustles (I know contradictory) from truth. At one club, entrance went up about $6, but domestic beer bottles are $1 all night! At this same club, dances are according to the strippers only in certain areas to include VIP and those range $20 - $30. I haven't seen a floor dance in my visits here yet. At another club, entrance and alcohol prices are the same. However, here too according to the strippers it's only VIP dances and "Oh, you can touch and I can straddle you etc." This price ranges $30 - $40 depending on stripper and only one has quoted me $5 above the price I know it used to be, $20. Also, at this club despite most strippers saying floor isn't allowed, it is. And those normal prices $10, I got from dances of a stripper that approached me.

@Papi Chulo That not approaching is definitely what I've experienced recently. Out of like 7 visits to different strip clubs in my area, only twice has a stripper approached me for a dance. I've only seen one familiar stripper at the strip club I frequent(ed).

I've met at two different stripper's places. One was my ATF and it was at two different apartments she had. The second stripper claimed she was house sitting, but seemed she knew the apartment too well and just easily waltzed on in the bathroom to take a shower. I've dropped a couple off at there apartment complex. With my ATF I was definitely skeptical the first time, it was in the AM hours right before it was light outside. And was skeptical with the second stripper too. Guess with me it was overall how comfortable I felt with the stripper and just not going in all guards down.

Tempting, tempting, tempting those of you who did and it turned out to be quite the good experience. If I follow my plan it'd be the end of this month IF I spend my money that way or just do the usual roll of the dice strip club visit.

@DH7400 You got me motivated to save and possibly just follow through! I say that with seriousness. Next time I'm in the club I'm going to count how many songs play in an hour to see if I'm getting somewhat a better deal despite the hotel room cost I'm incurring. She texted a little before I posted this that she doesn't feel comfortable meeting outside the club despite the one time we did meet for dinner and I dropped her off. I asked her this because I was just thrown off how it went from that to seemingly not even able to do a dinner date/hangout. So I might just text her next time I'm headed to the club and just bring enough to enjoy her and some other prospects.

@wallanon Yeah she charged too much. It was pretty much what she would have made if she had danced a full hour in VIP; $25 a song. And to me it's crazy, but I've never spent that amount on her at the club ever. She knows that, but was firm on her making the same as she would at the club for the same effort. Papi_Chulo was spot on about that. Yeah I tend to believe in the never say never, so only many more SC adventures will tell.

Dancer and I couldn't agree on terms so it's moreover not happening. I can't say I'll never take this route, but I'd be interested to see/know if with another dancer or PL this does happen and hope and dreams come true lol.

Thanks for the thread link Papi_Chulo. I briefly read the beginning posts of that one some time ago. You guys are right, it's a stupid way to go. My pockets aren't that deep and it'd be stupid to pay for a room just for some dances the same I'd see in the club.

Yeah I would hope it turned into more, but if this first encounter does happen I'm going in expecting just dances. Which is what we've agreed to so far. Did LapDanceKing say how his experience went?

Most seem to have a positive outlook or opinion on the club scene. I know I do, but I'm sure it'll come over time.

My biggest flake occurred in the early AM of a Sunday morning. I had went to the club that Sat. night to see at the time, my CF. I got a few VIP dances from her and was trying to arrange some OTC after the club closed. However, she was riding with another stripper(s) and was saying "oh I really want to but I dont want my stripper friends to think this or that." Well, I stayed til closing, 2AM, and she rode with her friends to IHOP and told me to meet her there. So I'm at IHOP out in the parking lot in my vehicle and she comes out. We talk a little, start kissing, I'm pu**y petting/fingering, and tittie rubbing, and after a while she says she has to go back inside finish up with her friends and she'll come with me. She did offer that I come inside, but I declined because was hesitant/not confident enough that I could swing that and get her OTC. I'm waiting in my truck for like 15 minutes or so and during that time we exchanged a couple texts and her saying okay x amount of minutes. Well, after about 30 minutes, no more texts from her. I call her a couple of times and no answer. And finally I come to my senses that she skipped out and left. Had I been facing the entrance I might have seen with my own eyes her flake on me. I thought after all that had happened in my truck that we were for sure going to hookup that night.

I'm somewhat with what Tetradon said, but I do have some strip club goals for 2020 while I'm still regularly clubbing. 1 - per visit mostly floor dances and if VIP only spend $100 - $125 2 - meet a chick that's into the strip club scene

Interesting, I have sometimes seen this occur the whole time of my visit. I always assumed they were just hanging out, not in the mood to hustle for money or actually genuinely enjoying the company of the others.

@Call.Me.Ishmael No I don't consider taking them out to eat as "OTC." With no sex, I try to refer to it as outside the club. Anyway, my goal is to get them OTC, sex involved. Last night was a first in some respects. However, I have trumped that once when I got a dancer OTC, only sex, first night I met her. I'm cool with taking them out to eat and even if it's mutiple of times. I feel that builds the rapport. However, I don't intend to continue pursuit too much longer when they start with SS as far as responding if we've already gotten outside the club. What gets me is the no response. Unless, they've indicated otherwise (very, very rare) that they don't mind small talk, I typically don't text them non business or small talk.

Yeah rickdugan advice is what intending to do. My in-game was to get her OTC p2p. However it doesn't look like that may be the case. On my last visit with her, I specifically asked if she's cool meeting outside the club to hang out and we keep it in the club too. It seems though she wants more or all of in the club. I'll probably give it a couple of more visits if not just one because I don't plan on doing just VIP with her because I think she expects or believes that's our norm. On another note I was able to get a stripper I just met tonight by only floor dances outside the club for an early breakfast. It was just cool interaction. We didn't even exchange numbers or hug and I dropped her off at home.

Don't know if it was the positive thinking (because I was just rolling the dice she might be there) as I drove on the interstate to the club, but she did text saying she had been out of town and she'd be at work tomorrow night. I proposed making something happen tonight, but she said she was already in bed.

@rickdugan That's the route right now. I did try for the sex on our dinner date not necessarily stating it as business, but failed.

This will make visit 4 if I'm not mistaken. I have got her outside the club for dinner once and that was after the second visit I believe. I need another hair recommendation LOL I'm typically rocking a bald cut.

A year or so ago I had a fav who'd initiate and it was pretty balanced contact. Now, a stripper initiating with me is about 2 out of 10 times. As SS as it is, those other 8 times are no response on their part.

My 99% deal breaker is if the dancer says she only does VIP dances. I have yet to come across a dancer that was so hot that I took her straight to VIP after her saying she only does VIP. There has been a couple of dancers I immediately took them to VIP, but they weren't on that I only do VIP. No certain thing attracts me to a girl, but to name a few, natural breasts, butt, attractive, skimpy outfit, and if she takes the time to actually talk a little before asking for a dance.

I do plan to ask her when she gets back from visiting home. I was surprised when she asked, and I'm always thinking yeah, SS.