Comments by PerpetualTravel

Gatorfan, thanks once again for helping me out. I'll try out Showplace and Heartbreakers and read the reviews here on them. Your inside Jersey info is priceless!!

"Stopped in at my new club for the usual late afternoon visit. Thinking about this thread, it occurred to me that I had only visited this club during the day shift. So in the name of science I decided to stay late. Conclusion: night dancers were definitely younger and hotter. Now I need to get some sleep, lol." lol! That's my main reason for being a day guy. I can't stay up all night and still get anything done. I'm wrecked if I stay up late at a club.

Definitely. Girls are working to make a living. If you didn't talk money, you were just a waste of her time and not worth staying up all night for. Sometimes a girl will do OTC for free if she really likes you as in a boyfriend, but mostly, they are working. You should have talked money.

Answering a couple posts above, I'm a lover, not a fighter! ha ha I don't mess with anyone and I'd never start anything with anyone. I just laugh because there are plenty of bad asses out there in the world and gangs too. I think it's funny that people pay a lot of attention to guys riding motorcycles together as if that makes any of the riders tougher or their gang any more bad ass than a latino gang. The bikes don't make you badass, but everyone thinks they do. That's what's funny. I should say, I have a bike, so I'm not anti bike. I just think it's funny that people think guys one bikes are any different or more bad ass than guys in cars. There are a lot more bad ass people walking around the streets and driving in cars every day around you than a bunch of guys with loud exhaust systems and leather jackets. They have you believing the hype. Most of the ones I see are old timers, too old to do anything physical and half the time they are mid level managers form the accounting department if you really ask them!

OK, I missed Gallaghers because I didn't feel like dealing with parking in the city. I'm in NJ and I'm looking over the reviews for GoGo Rama and the Playhouse. A lot of people are complaining about no mileage, cameras in the booths and no extras in the reviews. That doesn't sound good at all. I've got to find better clubs for NJ. I was in Cheaters in Providence the other day. A girl came up to me and grabbed me (down low) and didn't stop shifting gears until I agreed to sit down with her. I paid her to keep on doing that kind of thing she did to get my attention in the first place. I like this kind of thing. Can you get this in NJ? Is there a list of clubs for the road trip where you think I could get this kind of thing? I usually do this at FS high mileage clubs because the girls are used to doing a lot more, so they see a little gear shifting as nothing. Also, I need places where you can pay the dancer to sit at a booth/table and talk. Any tips?

Yeah, I think the girls are onto something. Odd thing is, there are so many customers in the clubs, that the 1 or 2 girls on will actually bank today.

Player11: What's BF??? I'm an idiot. Boyfriend??

I should add I've been with several famous porn stars, which you don't get in a club!!

I actually like them both, but I've never went through the hassle of getting a stripper OTC. How do you guys usually approach that one? The couple times I've asked, they weren't into it. Maybe wrong girl? I've had plenty of escort encounters and they've all been safe (knock on wood). My two worst were an escort that didn't mention to me her incall was in an apartment and a crazy crackhead. No way in hell I was going in there to get jumped with the apartment one. The crackhead was just nuts afterwards. I parked in a very large parking lot a block away for security (from LE) and went in. She did fine, even if she was a crackhead. Later, she called me over and over and over again demanding more money. She kept saying she had my license plate and a GPS and she was coming to get me... ha ha ha. Remember, I parked elsewhere. I finally called up her pimp and told him to get her off the friggin drugs. He apologized and she never called again. I like clubs for security. I can handle my own security with escorts (I often arrive armed for protection from thugs), but have been lucky enough not to have ever needed it. That said, 80% of my escort times have been in hotel rooms I have rented because it's just a lot more safe than sketchy incall locations. As I get older, it seems like clubs are the way to go. Less hassle, even if I have to pay a little extra. Also, I've only had one or two escorts with fake pictures. I'm very up front with the escort or the agency and I always let them know I won't pay a dime if the girl in the picture isn't the one I'm getting. Try that out if you get an escort.

"It's just a dumb stereotype that all dancers don't understand anything beyond a world of "primal needs". Just because somebody has a drinking or drugs problem, that doesn't mean they're on the same level as an animal, although they may act that way when they're in withdrawl." That's not what I meant to say. What I mean is they live in a primal world that is separate from the corporate, office type world. They go to work and do physical stuff to get money. They have to judge someone's character and size them up instantly. This is true of all dancers, it's what they do for a living. Because they go to work and do primal stuff all day, they are attuned to that type of thinking and often have a boyfriend that is also on a more primal level, as opposed to a stuffy office type because they can relate to each other better. For instance, their boyfriends are quite often in construction or work in some other job that doesn't require a lot of stuffy office mumbo jumbo. They are electricians, welders, laborers, simple guys with simple jobs that are less cerebral and more primal. Here, I don't mean primal as any type of insult. I mean it's a different way of living. I actually prefer living this way myself. Sometimes the couple is on drugs. I meant to address that type of stripper/boyfriend couple as a whole different, desperate and bad type, not to say being on drugs is what makes them primal. However, I will say being strung out on drugs does indeed make someone a bad person. I've seen it way too many times.

I think I'm a weirdo. I think those voices are hot. lol

Seriously, George, that's great! Good job! I finally used the excuse that I had to go to the bathroom to get mine up that time.

I would disagree about the Cadillac Lounge. I've been and it wasn't so great, although I'm a day guy. Club Fantasies in RI was much higher mileage and better looking girls than Cadillac. Cheaters is full of pretty bad looking girls, but they are friendly, nice and will do whatever you want with enough money. The best combination of everything though, is probably Desire. It's newly redone, the girls are SMOKIN and there is mileage to be had there too. It's the one club where you get great looking girls who will do the RI stuff, albeit not FS or anything as crazy as that post above. RI is a great place to go!

gatorfan: Nice! Thank you. I'll start looking up reviews on those and picking which to go to.

I actually like a good hustle if it means some contact her->me. It gives you a quick idea of if the girl is going to do it for you or not. A little preview. I've never had one grab on that didn't do more in the VIP or even lap dances. I like a lot of mileage so when I get hustled like this, I usually go for it. I've definitely had the loud, obnoxious fat chick jump on my lap, crush my femurs and decide to stay put. It's pretty hard to get rid of these ones!

Pffff! "Bikers" I love how just owning a Harley and putting on some leather jacket can make someone a "bad ass." Those guys make me laugh. Nothing like buying your way into being "tough."

That's exactly what happens. If the house fees get too high, the dancer will just work someplace else and the club's quality will go down. With no quality, we don't go and then the club stagnates. Greed will put a club out of business very quickly. . Clubs like to think they're in charge, but without dancers, what is a club?

The dancers aren't getting played by the boyfriends. Dancers are people, like you and me and they fall in love, just like everyone else. They're in the club to use your ass for money and they'll tell you pretty much any sob story to get a few extra bucks. Many dancers have idiot boyfriends who end up in jail, but that's often because dancers are into drugs and they're both trying to get as much money as they can for drugs. The dancer has no problem getting money, but the BF usually turns to petty crime. Dancers can't relate well to people who are stiff and too corporate. They live in a primal world of primal needs. This is what they understand. They like guys who are on this level and who aren't too stuffy. The average joe boyfriends they usually have are just the right type of guy for them. So the dancers aren't being played by their boyfriends. They're actually in love. They just don't want to come home to some rich, controlling patron like they deal with all day at work. That's the real deal.

Bellman: thanks for that tip. I'll check those out. I was looking up all the clubs listed here and doing my homework on the reviews. I'm a guy who is used to places like Tootsies in FL and in RI, Fantasies or dare I admit, Cheaters! I'm trying to find places like those where you can pretty much get a lot of one way contact (girl contacting the guy). I'm not really into grabbing them, but I enjoy the other way around. Usually, in these super high mileage places, you can do more innocent stuff like I like for a pretty reasonable price compared to all the other patrons who are in there negotiating FS. So, I'm trying to have this list include places like that. Places where "anything goes." Places a lot like what Bellman is talking about and places like Tootsies or Desires or Cheaters. When I'm done making the list I'll put it back up here on this thread and put in reviews for all the clubs.

Wow! Another great list! This makes planning your drive to FL a lot more fun! Thank!

I didn't see part 1 but unless she's investing in food, I'm pretty sure you don't need to sweat the fda.

Nice list! Thanks. I've spent plenty of time and money at tootsies. I was thinking i'd sample everything on the way down as something different to do each night. There are just so many places between ny and FL, I figured some might be good contact and mileage like FL and RI.

Nobody answers the op? I'd drive across to tootsies.

The main thing to know is that getting with a "stripper" is no different than getting with any other girls. They just have a different job. No two strippers are alike, just like no two girls in a regular bar are alike. Many strippers are very nice people who are just a little misunderstood. They tend to respond very favorably once they find a guy they like. As a patron in a club, you have a very low chance of being that guy. They'd respond better if you met them anywhere else, usually. Source of info? Have had long term relationships with strippers for many years. Never went into a club until a stripper I was dating suggested I go.