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13 years ago
BFD Swagger - Of course they did you for free bc your were a manager stupid.
No I dont have the game confused DA - I lease these girls like someone would rent a timeshare.
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13 years ago
Dating a stripper is a fantasy many strip clubbers have (and I fell for it at one time). The reality is if you fall in this trap with her you are going to be taking her shopping while she racks up a big bill. You will take her out to dinner while she buys a plate for her loser BF she supports in addition to herself at your expense. Then when she is thru, its goodbye. No pass go, no $200, no pussy with her. The more shopping "dates" you take her on the more she will ratchet up the expense sorta like a strong poker player with a good hand bidding up the pot.
I don't date them, I and simply to take them as concubines and enjoy them itc or otc. I have no problem calling this dating but the proper term wb that I am seeing them (at motel). I remember a debate on SW or somewhere that seeing a stripper otc is not dating and I told the stripper posting the comment "spermatozoa dont care if it is the cunt of the guys wife, fiancee, or whore, so call it what you want, but I will call it dating as I am a paying customer." I was subsequently banned from the site. Another term wb freindship with benefits or an arrangement. Whatever the arrangement, if it does not include pussy at my price, well no deal for me. A poll on ECCIE labeled "Sugarbabies" from sites like SA as sex providers. Whether a stripper plays or not, she is essentially a sex worker. During this recession I have had no problem finding $100 pussy with strippers itc or x strippers who now work in reg day jobs.
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13 years ago
My itc / otc fav tells me dancers will ask another dancer "What did you get off him (ViP member)." They will talk about customers - like if the guy was a big spender.
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13 years ago
I can see why your stripper dating experience is limited. Its more like 1-2-3 punt and your starting on their 25 yard line. Why play if your not going to try to score? No, they are not goin to do you for free and yes I pay for pussy if the price is right just like I enjoy a fast food drive thru.
I dont go for dating BS with them - I take their hints they need cash for whatever and make them an offer for otc or itc (if extras club). But I dont even wait for that part - I simply throw for the endzone and ask them if they like to play and then make an offer.
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13 years ago
There is no such as dating strippers unless you equate it with meeting one for a session. They will use "dating" as a form of manipulation to milk you for money via shopping, etc.
If I want something from them beyond lap dances, I simply make them an offer for itc or otc sex. They respect a direct approach than something lame like "lets meet for dinner and a movie."
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13 years ago
I have seen two gals off Seek Arraangement.com - one a 24 yr old student, the other a 40 year old MILF. They both give really good GFE and are happy to take $100 a session. The student is a screamer and the MILF a BJ specialist but good fuck too.
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13 years ago
Hey Dougturd go fuck yourself
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13 years ago
Kappa - you dont have your facts straight probly listening to retardo Dougster. I have never offered a stripper less than $100 for anything. I did offer one in VIP at the club I go to $100 for sex after taking two dances - she gladly accepted. I am doing another of the girls that dances there otc averaging $135 a session. I am approaching 3 yr / 200 sessions with her.
Considering Backpage call girls in my area are offering $60 specials, $100 for CFS is a fair offer.
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13 years ago
I have had success with the SD Site SeekingArrangement.com
I have done a 24 yr old college girl a coupla sessions so far at $100 per session. I took her out to dinner and offered her $100 for sex. We have had a coupla sessions, she is real screamer and will go again, no rush.
I have also done a 40 yr old housewife for $100 - she will do it all - anal, BBBJ, fisting (I wont do that but she said another guy did), CG, doggie, mish, daty.
I would not take seriously any BS about how much they expect a month or what they expect as far as relationship crap - just treat them like a queen and offer money. The ones I have met are flattered and delighted to get $100 a session.
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14 years ago
Dougster, I am going to close you out (ignore button) commenting I find you anal retentive and boring.
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14 years ago
Well Rick in retrospect I possibly should have used the term Hobbyist (ECCIE) or Strip Club Hobbyist. Its just that to me Strip Clubbing is not a hobby like model railroading, it is a game of getting the most for your money with drinks, dances, company, and getting off thru itc extras, otc (if thats your thing). Any strip clubber has to run a gauntlet of ROB's, LE, , feisty broke losers looking for trouble, no contact rules, to beat to get to his ultimate prize. I simply play the game to win (most fun for my nickel), hence the term Player.
Thur nite I went to the SE Houston extras club not 15 minitues from my house basically just to chill as it had been a stressful week. Not there 5 minutes, a gril was announced on stage 1, F (who I had done itc awhile back). I tipped her on both stage 1 and 2 (determined to have her again), fighting off another gal hustling me at my table putting my hand on her boobs while fondling my crotch. She was sexy as hell. But I was determined to have a go at her. I had to leave the table as F (slender blonde spinner around 30, modest bust) got off stage and walked towards her. She asked "well are you taking her upstairs (VIP)." I very firmly said no and she said smiling (flattered?) "Well lets go, we will start with a couple of dances and see where it goes from there." We went to the upstairs VIP pass the bar there which had dancers (that play probably) and a couple of custies, an area with gaming machines to right and a very sexy gal in bik on couch in sexy pose smiling at us as we walked by (why fool with them on floor downstairs?) and in to the darker area and she made a couch fort. Two dances later (2 at $20) I offered her $100 for FS. She agreed and what was enjoyed was DFK, CBJ, HJ, CG (covered sex). It was great and I fucked her for a long time no rush and she got off 2 or three times. At end I tipped her $40, got her phone number, gave her mine along with my business card I use for SC's (first name only). I plan to go back to c her. She did indicate she would alos meet otc. I had not seen her in awhile as I have been seeing another girl that danced there on a steady basis.
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14 years ago
Yes Pablo, M (Marilyn) is no $60 crack whore as someone like Dougster in his delusional way suggests. She was a top shelf piece of ass (an 8 in anybodys book, 20 yr old blonde from Miami) I did her at CF and the Ritz (several times) and it cost me $200 a session except for one where I got her for $100. She seems to have fallen off the radar, perhaps she has moved to another city (she told me she traveled around). My attempts to find her at the Ritz have been unsuccessful and her phone number no longer works. Who knows, maybe she is at treasures now.
I cannot believe the pettiness someone like Dougster is having with a simple definition. I am beginning to believe he is actually a she (one of the Bitches of SW) impersonating a SC patron. The SC Hobby of having fun and chasing extras girls is a game with its own strategies and rules. I pay good money to enjoy the SC hobby and the girls I have done. So if one plays the game, one is a Player - its as simple as that. I do believe the recession has driven POP down to the $100 level.
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14 years ago
Dougster and Swagger - You sound like two broke DA peeps. I bet you barely have the money to pay cover LOL.
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14 years ago
George - Hobbyist (ECCIE would probably be another term, but this is more for guys who use "providers" as opposed to Strippers). AS far as what a SC Player is read my article - Definition of a Strip Club Player. And yes Houston (extras) gals will come up and say they play and ask me "How do you like to play in VIP." Or just grab your junk, see if your hard, then ask if you want to play. This is especially club at extras clubs like Centerfolds, Treasures, and the Ritz.
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14 years ago
I am LT ViP at a well known Houston club. Entry to VIP is free for me and most of the girls play. When I take a gal to vip I may take one or two dances to get things warmend then fuck her for $200. I cant imagine paying big bucks to take a gal to vip and then not get pussy.
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14 years ago
Once your meeting strippers otc like I do (wife wants business relationship due to female change of life issues, etc.), its a different ball game bc your checking into motels on a regular basis, worried about your car being seen at a motel, etc. Most of my hobby money lately has been going to a fav who meets me otc at motels. She is really good all around. Done a lot of them but she is the best, the hesiman WR of otc girls. I worry more about some prob with her husband than my wife catching me.
Before doing this I went to SC's much more often and the time inbetween quit time at work and around 6 or 7 pm was my time for the SC's. Forget night shift, that was a luxury I could only do ever so often. Now with grandkids the wife is always out "baby sitting" leaving me a lot of free time for strip clubbing. I will get "club fever" and go to the club where I am VIP (extas club) supposedly just to chill but invariably end going up to VIP for extras (FS) and then dropping $200-$300 on some 20yr old gal when fav who is 28 is available 24-7 at avg of $125 and I can tap her 3x week if I want. Last time I went to club, 20 yr old I had done 7 times grabs me when I am not 15 ft in there and says "Where have your been. Lets go upstairs (for sex)." So my prob is not in finding action but sorting thru all the ass here in the Houston area that wants to put out and make money. It is such a target rich enironment here. Houston is to strip clubbing what vail is to skiing I guess.
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14 years ago
Read the whole thing. Great read and gives good insight into what dancers go thru. Thanks for sharing.
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14 years ago
Good article with lots of great insight.
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14 years ago
It is a fools errand to try to date a stripper as a regular gf. Any dating I do with strippers otc is motel 4 sex. Then the issue is POP vs her performance in bed.
Strippers sell a fantasy, hope your fantasy experience was worth what you paid.
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14 years ago
I would not mind going like that. Beats some long drawn out suffering fade out....
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14 years ago
I believe many strippers are hesitant to date a customer bc he knows she is a sex worker. It has nothing to do with him being a loser bc he goes to Strip Clubs. Considering many of the loser, cuckhold dancer BF or husbands I have known or known about, believe me this crowd had nothing to hold above the strip club customer LOL.
I fing the term PL similar to the term RIL. Dancers sell a fantasy or in many case extras. They are sexworkers. It is easy for a newbie to get manipulated by SS or get confused the dancer is really interested in dating him in the traditional sense. The one I have been seeing 2.5 yr otc has become my whore. I hope to enjoy her as long as it lasts.
I can understand where bmoresshowgirl is coming from - she sounds like she would be a good girl who could give a decent spender some nice dances. Can't blame her for not wanting broke people wasting her time.
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14 years ago
Strippers sell a fantasy expereince. They are not going to be your GF, but this does not mean you can't have fun with them. In many ways they are a lot more fun than a "regular" GF.
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14 years ago
You will get much better value at Houston Area clubs. Those Vegas clubs sound like a ripoff. If near Hobby Airport I recommend Ritz, Heartbreakers. If near IAH I recommend St James, Ricks Cabaret. Westchase area: Centerfolds, Treasures, and Penthouse Club
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14 years ago
1. This kinda puts me off - I politely brush her off.
2. I will go for this unless there is something about gal I don't like. I will buy her a drink and try to steer the convo in a direction where she will open up. I try to treat her with respect and avoid sex talk. I will try to get some mileage if it seems available.
3. You can tip the coctail waitress to tell the girl but you may be blowing in the wind if she is sitting with big spender.
4. I don't - In SC you either take an opportunity or you may never see it again. In special circumstances will give them my business card.
5. I get a feel how she handles during a dance. If she seems really hot and turns me on I am gonna want to take to VIP or CR and bang her.
6. I simply tell her I am VIP or ask her if she plays. Then if she plays price and services are discussed. At the club where I am VIP extras abound (it is known as basically a whorehouse). If I take them up to VIP vs a dance on the floor, they alomost allways want sex (which means more $$). Most of them prefer doing a guy itc vs otc (quick turnover / more money). The last time I was there I banged a gal in VIP for $160 (about 5th time I did her). Then I enjoyed the buffet while she went on stage. On the other stage was a gal dancing I had banged a coupla of months before - now how neat or unsetling is that? Getting back to you question you can ask if they do private shows or work outside the club. In this way you avoid directly propostioning someone who may not play.
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14 years ago
Intreresting Story and one should certainly be on gurard.
You never know what will set off some psycho bitch. It alwayus pays to get to know the girl a little first.